Italic using guidelines

[vidalia11]

Note: Even though the image in this 1st post is missing, I'm leaving the thread viewable due to the responses and other info below. --Ann

 

Here is some more practice using guidelines (good idea). I made my own, sort of (modified an already-made template).

 

Karen

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3318575392_e18e184e66_o.jpg

Edited July 22, 2011 by Ann Finley
To add note of explanation above.

[craynerd]

Nice writing, I have a similar template for copperplate. The advantage of the one Ken provided for italic yesterday was that it also has additional diagonal lines for the, what would be horizontal lines with a round-hand. That said, it is pretty darn good as is!!

 

Chris

[vidalia11]

Nice writing, I have a similar template for copperplate. The advantage of the one Ken provided for italic yesterday was that it also has additional diagonal lines for the, what would be horizontal lines with a round-hand. That said, it is pretty darn good as is!!

 

Chris

 

The only prob. with Ken's template was that it was too large for the nib of my pen. Otherwise it's better than this one!

 

Karen

 

[craynerd]

Yes, I`m with you! I`ll perhaps have a go at rescaling it tonight. What was the distance between lines on your template?

 

Chris

[stedders]

Wow! Such an improvement in just a few days - your writing is starting to look like a handwriting textbook.

 

Andy

[Jamesiv1]

Hi Karen,

 

Very Nice!!

 

The main thing that jumps out, is your arches on n and m are too spiky. Look at your b in 'by' and 'balm' (especially 'by') - very good! Those should be your arches for n and m as well.

 

Practice rows and rows of continuous arches... and also do bnbnbn bmbmbm pnpnpnpn pmpmpmpm

 

Your arches should be the same.

 

Now turn your paper upside down and have a look. Should still be nice "under" arches. n of course should look like a letter u.

 

Good job!

 

James

 

[vidalia11]

Yes, I`m with you! I`ll perhaps have a go at rescaling it tonight. What was the distance between lines on your template?

 

Chris

3mm. I got it from IAMPETH site where the guidelines are. First page of this document: http://www.iampeth.com/lessons/guidesheets...ines_letter.pdf

 

Karen

[vidalia11]

Andy, Thank you so much!!

 

James, you're right & I will do that exercise.

 

Karen

 

[caliken]

 

If you let me know the distance between lines you'd prefer, I'll post a new template and Raynerd can perhaps work his .pdf magic again!

Edited March 1, 2009 by caliken

[vidalia11]

If you let me know the distance between lines you'd prefer, I'll post a new template and Raynerd can perhaps work his .pdf magic again!

 

3mm seems to be a good line space. Thanks!

 

Karen

[caliken]

If you let me know the distance between lines you'd prefer, I'll post a new template and Raynerd can perhaps work his .pdf magic again!

 

3mm seems to be a good line space. Thanks!

 

Karen

Here's the grid at 3mm line width as requested.

The IAMPETH lines you've been using, are not suitable from this method of italic writing as they are made for copperplate at a slope of 35% from the vertical. This would produce an italic writing angle of 3% - practically upright.

I am posting a new topic shortly, which will hopefully, clarify the whole method.

 

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd289/caliken_2007/LINESFOR3MMITALICGRIDAB_edited-1.jpg

[craynerd]

Italic writing guides now both as pdf in the original link: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=81

What size was the original you posted?

 

I know I`m not doing anything particularly important converting these but I just think it is easier to save and print them as a pdf rather than a jpg.

 

Look forward to reading your tutorial.

 

Chris

[caliken]

Italic writing guides now both as pdf in the original link: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=81

What size was the original you posted?

 

I know I`m not doing anything particularly important converting these but I just think it is easier to save and print them as a pdf rather than a jpg.

 

Look forward to reading your tutorial.

 

Chris

The original was 6mm.

 

Ken

 

[Achim]

Italic writing guides now both as pdf in the original link: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=81

 

The jpg's in those PDFs lack somewhat in quality when printed - so I made vectorized PDF versions of them (with 0.5 pt line width):

 

http://files.me.com/achims63/i8fuew (3 mm)

http://files.me.com/achims63/3bn9o4 (6 mm)

 

Those are temporary links, only available for some days.

@Chris: feel free to download and host them together with the other PDFs.

 

Let me know if you need different sizes.

 

@Karen: Nice work! (and sorry for hijacking this thread ...)

 

Best, Achim.

Edited March 2, 2009 by Achim

[fierdog]

Thanks to everyone for posting these templates, But are there any rules of thumb on selecting which size grid is most appropriate?

[craynerd]

Achim - I have uploaded and updated them on my site for perminant storage.

 

http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=81

 

Thanks for that. I`m sure if people wish for other sizes they can give you a shout and I`ll happily keep them all together. Please let me know if you make anymore.

 

Chris

[vidalia11]

Italic writing guides now both as pdf in the original link: http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=81

 

The jpg's in those PDFs lack somewhat in quality when printed - so I made vectorized PDF versions of them (with 0.5 pt line width):

 

http://files.me.com/achims63/i8fuew (3 mm)

http://files.me.com/achims63/3bn9o4 (6 mm)

 

Those are temporary links, only available for some days.

@Chris: feel free to download and host them together with the other PDFs.

 

Let me know if you need different sizes.

 

@Karen: Nice work! (and sorry for hijacking this thread ...)

 

Best, Achim.

 

No apologies needed! This has turned into something very useful !!

 

Karen

 

[caliken]

Thanks to everyone for posting these templates, But are there any rules of thumb on selecting which size grid is most appropriate?

fierdog

In italic writing with an edged pen nib, 5 times the nib width is about right for the 'x' height of writing, but this is not an inflexible rule.

 

[DumboMD]

Thanks! I just saw the pinned post...

[telomere]

I had some trouble finding a guide sheet with sloped lines at an angle appropriate for italics, so I made one tailored to what I was looking for.

 

In case anyone else might find some use from it, I'll share it here in PDF form, along with the Word template if adjustment is required:

 

http://dqd.id.au/pens/guide_preview.png

 

PDF (A4 side): guide 6.75mm 10deg.pdf

Word 2007: guide template.docx

 

To draw the sloped lines correctly, I had to use a larger paper size in Word. To get it back down to A4 size, follow these steps:

 

1. From Word, print the guidesheet to a PDF at full (A3) size
   
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat Reader, then print it again (either to your real printer, or to another PDF for later use) with these settings:
    
   Paper size: A4 (set it in printer Properties)
   Page scaling: None
   Auto-rotate and center: Enabled
    
   
   http://dqd.id.au/pens/pdf_settings_preview.png
   (Click to enlarge)

 

Hope this is useful to someone out there .