Lamy Safari

[christof]

Dear Chris

It is me who has to say thank you.

I bow to your knowledge!

Christof

[Anne-Sophie]

Thank you so much Christof and Chris!

 

I would like to add that the special edition Pastel pens are glossy and the special edition Candy pens are matte.

[jungkind]

Great work!!!

[Uffuffa]

Thank you so much Christof and Chris!

 

I would like to add that the special edition Pastel pens are glossy and the special edition Candy pens are matte.

Thank you Anne-Sophie,

 

Yes, there are many features that are missing in this table. It is only a simple descriptive list of pens that Christof and I are aware of. Christof has created a nice foundation, which is to classify the pens according to their baseline colour. I have then simply used that to add in only the main variations of that baseline colour. I think a future iteration of this table that we will work on is to incorporate design features, the most obvious being the texture, cap design, clip colour, etc. Others are also of interest, however, such as the barrel rim markings (dots versus numbers) and the inclination of the cartridge holders (flat versus bevelled). Lots to cover, and matte versus glossy is one of many that would need inclusion.

 

Thanks,

Chris

[christof]

Thank you Ann-Sophie and Chris

 

I have a slightly different point of view. In my opinion, the table should stay clear and not overloaded. To many informations can be confusing. As far it is possible to identify a model by it's color (what is the case with with the Pastel and Candy series)' it is not mandatory necessary to ad more informations in my opinion.

Just my thoughts.

C.

 

ps: there seems to be a regularity for matte pens: they never came with chrome clips.

Edited September 10, 2020 by christof

[bphollin]

Fantastic spreadsheet! Thank you both for taking the time to compile it and share here on FPN. I've been slooooowly working on another Lamy 2000 article, and I came across these Safari ads in the process. I thought I'd share them here. I think the "Frost White" and "Riot Red" names were new to me. I'm guessing these were creative ad-copy writers and not official names?

 

(Images below are on Flickr with higher resolution)

 

 

Lamy-Safari-1981-02-09-NYTimes-pg-B12 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1981-06-17-NYTimes-pg-A3 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1982-02-11-NYTimes-pg-C3 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1982-03-02-NYTimes-pg-A6 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1982-05-04-NYTimes-pg-A16 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1982-08-24-Miami-Herald-pg-5A on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1982-12-09-NYTimes-pg-B9 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1983-04-19-NYTimes-pg-A12 on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-1988-11-25-Times-pg-35 on Flickr

[N1003U]

Thanks, bphollin, for the posts of the vintage advertising. It was a little sad to see the Art Brown ads, since that was for some years my go-to retailer in Manhattan. Unfortunately, they did not survive the transition to the current on-line model. It was a great shop.

 

Interesting. $20 was still worth something in 1982. That must have seemed like a lot for a pen with an injection-molded body.

Edited September 13, 2020 by N1003U

[christof]

Wow!

Thanks for posting this bphollin! This are really remarkable informations.

It almost seems that the S2 (charcoal) was introduced first in America and only later in Europe!

I think that we need to edit our table again...

C.

Edited September 14, 2020 by christof

[pen2paper]

So nice to see updates!
Resigned to missing the first two, (interesting US names), but guess the missing solid black describes what a busy year that was. :-)

[Anne-Sophie]

Thank you Ann-Sophie and Chris

 

I have a slightly different point of view. In my opinion, the table should stay clear and not overloaded. To many informations can be confusing. As far it is possible to identify a model by it's color (what is the case with with the Pastel and Candy series)' it is not mandatory necessary to ad more informations in my opinion.

Just my thoughts.

C.

 

ps: there seems to be a regularity for matte pens: they never came with chrome clips.

 

Christof and Chris, the remark in my post was not, in any way, a critic of that wonderful and informative table, just an idea that came to me while I was playing with the Pastel and Candy series.

 

I felt it could be useful in a post dedicated to the Safari. New users could come upon those series, in a few years and wonder if the pens are real, or just want more information.

 

The Safari is truly one of the most fun pen, in the hobby.

[Uffuffa]

Superb adverts, bphollin - thank you for sharing! This confirms my suspicion that the S2 predated the Alpin (at least in the States; although I doubt very much that the European market had a different order) based on the design elements of the Alpin vs S2 in their respective generations.

 

According to these adverts it would be reasonable to conclude that S2 was introduced in March 1982 and Alpin in March/April 1983.

 

I am also very intrigued by the term Frost White. I wonder if the use of frost lends support to our conclusion, Christof, that the Alpin was first introduced as a matte/frosted texture and later changed to glossy because the matte white dirtied and became grubby very quickly... Very interesting.

 

Lets adjust the table base on these new finds

[christof]

I am also very intrigued by the term Frost White. I wonder if the use of frost lends support to our conclusion, Christof, that the Alpin was first introduced as a matte/frosted texture and later changed to glossy because the matte white dirtied and became grubby very quickly...

 

Yes, that is exatly what I think too.

 

 

 

Lets adjust the table base on these new finds

 

I will do, as soon as possible.

 

C.

[pajaro]

Perhaps the best and most fun pens for the money.

[christof]

Here comes the adjusted table (clickt to the Flickr link below for larger view):

 

LAMY Safari English by C.M.Z, auf Flickr

 

C.

Edited September 20, 2020 by christof

[christof]

I am also very intrigued by the term Frost White. I wonder if the use of frost lends support to our conclusion, Christof, that the Alpin was first introduced as a matte/frosted texture and later changed to glossy because the matte white dirtied and became grubby very quickly... Very interesting.

 

btw... do you remember the modifications I did on a Vista, five years ago?:

 

Lamy Safari Frosta (Vista) by c_m_z, auf Flickr

 

...then I called it "Frosta" because of the matte surface.

 

C.

Edited September 20, 2020 by christof

[Uffuffa]

A fantastic creation, Christof!

[sentience]

Wonderful compilation of info! I'm currently working on a complete LAMY catalogue website, and I look forward to crediting you as a source (with a link to your hard work, of course!).

[bphollin]

Here are some fun vintage Lamy Safari stickers I scanned. I think we should get matching tattoos!

 

Click through to Flickr for high resolution versions.

 

Lamy-Safari-sticker-heart-600dpi on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-sticker-snake-600dpi on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-sticker-da-da-da-600-dpi on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-sticker-claw-600dpi on Flickr

Lamy-Safari-sticker-cloud-600dpi on Flickr

[inkstainedruth]

No tattoos for me (I'd be one of those people who'd likely have a horrible allergic reaction -- I just know it).

OTOH, if the stickers were still commercially available, I'd happily put one of them on the top of my laptop. Maybe the claw one (I plugged the text into Google Translate to see what it said, and it translated to "I have it under control" (which, given the triangular grip section, is pretty appropriate).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[christof]

Thank you Brandon for posting these. Cool stuff!

Edited September 26, 2020 by christof