0.35-1.3mm Italic Nibs Comparison

[QM2]

http://www.queenmargot.com/italic_samples.jpg

 

In response t some requests I've had, I am posting a comparison of gold italic nibs in a variety of sizes. As noted,

some are factory italics, many have been reground by Richard Binder, and one has been reground by John Mottishaw.

Unfortunately I did not use the same ink in all the pens, but the writing is representative of the kind of line these put

down with my handwriting.

 

Edited to add: The paper is Rhodia; 5x5 grid pad

 

Hope this is useful,

QM2

Edited October 9, 2008 by QM2

[offbase]

http://www.queenmargot.com/italic_samples.jpg

 

In response t some requests I've had, I am posting a comparison of gold italic nibs in a variety of sizes. As noted,

some are factory italics, many have been reground by Richard Binder, and one has been reground by John Mottishaw.

Unfortunately I did not use the same ink in all the pens, but the writing is representative of the kind of line these put

down with my handwriting.

 

Edited to add: The paper is Rhodia; 5x5 grid pad

 

Hope this is useful,

QM2

 

Very nice presentation! Just seems, too, to validate my long-held opinion on Conway Sterwart nibs. Their "fine" italic is pretty much comparable to a 1.1! I don't know if it's the size of the nib, their generally excessive flow, or a combination of the two. I like the look of the .4mm Binderized Dolce italic: very precise, noticable line variation, and just plain crisp lines. I wouldn't mind having that nib, myself.

[nkk]

IS there any way you could get a larger version up so that I can see the difference in variation betweeen the widths? If it is too much trouble, dont worry, but if you have a file that is larger, it would be great.

 

If you do not want to waste space in your attachemnts, pm me for an email.

 

Thank you very much,

Nkk

[QM2]

offbase: The Conway Stewart factory Italic Fine is supposed to be .8mm -- so yes, it does write rather wet with excessive flow. You can see that the Binder-modified .45mm Conway Stewart lower down produces a much crisper, more precise line, with more noticeable variation, despite it being so much finer.

 

The Dolce Vita Soiree nib is on this pen:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=78681

Look familiar? : )

 

nkk: Some other people have pm'ed me asking the same thing, so I will try to post a high-res image tomorrow. The images are linked to my server, they are not attachments, so it is not a big deal.

Edited October 10, 2008 by QM2

[offbase]

offbase: The Conway Stewart factory Italic Fine is supposed to be .8mm -- so yes, it does write rather wet with excessive flow. You can see that the Binder-modified .45mm Conway Stewart lower down produces a much crisper, more precise line, with more noticeable variation, despite it being so much finer.

 

The Dolce Vita Soiree nib is on this pen:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=78681

Look familiar? : )

 

nkk: Some other people have pm'ed me asking the same thing, so I will try to post a high-res image tomorrow. The images are linked to my server, they are not attachment, so it is not a big deal.

 

Boy, if only I could've gotten that Soiree out've you, instead of the dough. Nice collection.

[QM2]

Boy, if only I could've gotten that Soiree out've you, instead of the dough. Nice collection.

 

You're kidding! Well, I guess just shows how tastes can differ. Don't get me wrong, I love my Dolce Vita Soiree -- but the Via Veneto is by far my favourite of the two. All that gorgeous, delicate inset casein nearly did me in. I can't believe more people are not having epileptic fits of joy upon beholding this glorious beauty...

Edited October 10, 2008 by QM2

[offbase]

I loved the look of it, too. But man, that Soiree has one great specialty nib on it!

[QM2]

Okay, you can download a 1.15M hi-res file here!

 

And I've also made some close-ups:

 

http://queenmargot.com/italic_samples2.jpg

 

 

 

http://queenmargot.com/italic_samples3.jpg

 

Enjoy!

QM2

Edited October 10, 2008 by QM2

[Rufus]

I have yet to come across a custom or factory stub/cursive Italic that beats the Bexley 1.3mm 18k gold stub; mind you, I have yet to meet any nib that surpasses any of the Bexley 18k gold nibs.

[QM2]

I have yet to come across a custom or factory stub/cursive Italic that beats the Bexley 1.3mm 18k gold stub; mind you, I have yet to meet any nib that surpasses any of the Bexley 18k gold nibs.

 

Interesting; that is a strong statement! I love this nib as well and would describe it as luxurious.

But do you not find the 1.3mm a bit wide for everyday writing?

 

The second pen from the right is who my 1.3mm belongs to -- a winning combination!

 

http://queenmargot.com/flattop1.jpg

[Rufus]

I have yet to come across a custom or factory stub/cursive Italic that beats the Bexley 1.3mm 18k gold stub; mind you, I have yet to meet any nib that surpasses any of the Bexley 18k gold nibs.

 

Interesting; that is a strong statement! I love this nib as well and would describe it as luxurious.

But do you not find the 1.3mm a bit wide for everyday writing?

 

The second pen from the right is who my 1.3mm belongs to -- a winning combination!

 

http://queenmargot.com/flattop1.jpg

 

QM2, it probably is a bit wide for everday writing if you're doing a lot of writing. My miniscules average 4mm, which, by Richard B's rule of thumb, suggests I should be using a .8mm stub/cursive Italic; however, I've found that I'm not satisfied with a stub/cursive Italic that is smaller than .9mm. If I'm doing a lot of writing I'll usually use a Bexley medium nib. Yes, I did make a strong statement, but I do feel very strongly about my 18k gold Bexley nibs.

 

[theblackpen]

I don't see line variation in the nibs under 0.6

[Richard]

I don't see line variation in the nibs under 0.6

It's there. I found some time ago that I wasn't seeing line variation the way others were, and I had to train myself to recognize it. Different people's handwriting, different inks, different papers, different humidity levels, the phase of the moon, the variables that control the result for any particular nib are manifold.

[Titivillus]

I don't see line variation in the nibs under 0.6

 

 

I can see variation even with a bold nib just with the variation is shape of tipping.

 

Kurt

[QM2]

I don't see line variation in the nibs under 0.6

 

http://queenmargot.com/tiny_italic.jpg

 

How about here? These are all .4mm-.45mm nibs. The writing you see is extremely tiny;

on 5x5 grid paper.

 

[offbase]

That Soiree's nib just gets better and better ...

[QM2]

That Soiree's nib just gets better and better ...

 

Well technically, it's Soiree + Binder. You can do this to almost any pen by giving Richard the same specifications as I did.

[offbase]

That Soiree's nib just gets better and better ...

 

Well technically, it's Soiree + Binder. You can do this to almost any pen by giving Richard the same specifications as I did.

 

I know. I have a .4mm stub, but not done by Richard. I can't get that kind of variation out of mine (no knock on the person that did mine, it's a fine job and I'm happy with it). Richard outdid himself on that one. That sample looks as if it was done with a straight italic. And BTW, very nice script!

[georges zaslavsky]

some very good job richard did, congrats to him

[theblackpen]

I don't see line variation in the nibs under 0.6

 

http://queenmargot.com/tiny_italic.jpg

 

How about here? These are all .4mm-.45mm nibs. The writing you see is extremely tiny;

on 5x5 grid paper.

Thank you! Now i'm a believer... 0.4 cursive italic sounds great for a microscopical handwriting like mine.Is that somewhere between XF/F in normal nibs?

"Gotta have a heart" :roflmho: I found FPN a year and a half ago and I don't know if it was a good thing or ... Started with a few questions,then a M200 Pelikan , then a VP ,then a Lamy 2000 and so on... Then I found out thet there are nibmeisters and cursive italics and stubs and special shapes... "Well I have to send my Lamy 2000 to a nibmeister 'cause this XF is anything but XF...and I'd like to see how a 0.6 stub writes ...and my 405 writes too dry"...

Ooooooooo ... Vintage

"Gotta have a Vacumatic and a 51 and a 45 and a 75. And a Waterman 52... And a Snorkel. I'm no collector if don't have a Snorkel..."

So my list is just about 6k long...

Yep, "gotta have a heart" to deal with all this frustration.So many wonderful pens , so little time money. But I'm still young , I'm still in college. Patience...

Got to run. (bleep)'s update is on the 8th Nov and i got to be the first to... to... see it