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Here are my thoughts in order:

 

1. I have to admit it crossed my mind once before.. maybe the last time I got cut too but I didn't get to try it out unfortunately.. Its like in our heads you see it so many times done in movies or books it just makes you wonder hehe :) Renzhe nicely done buddy..

 

2. What is our blood content like towards fountain pens? I mean, how MB blue-black is not good for certain pens because of the iron gall etc..

 

3. I wonder if its permanent.. is it? Try to keep the paper if you still have it for a few months and tell us what happens.. I have a feeling that the color will turn black eventually..

 

4. The DNA comment- I wonder.. imaigne in a paralell world it would be that people when signing official documents, i.e. bank related stuff, property purchases, law documents etc that they have to sign in their own blood to make sure that the person who signed is really the concerned party.. too many times people forge signatures and until the chip and pin technology things were prone to fraud..

 

 

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4. The DNA comment- I wonder.. imaigne in a paralell world it would be that people when signing official documents, i.e. bank related stuff, property purchases, law documents etc that they have to sign in their own blood to make sure that the person who signed is really the concerned party.. too many times people forge signatures and until the chip and pin technology things were prone to fraud..

 

 

There is already a company that will make rollerball ink with your DNA in it. A big seller for sports figures to confirm that the signature really is theirs. And I think I mentioned in another thread there is a DNA extraction kit you can buy at hobby stores so you can make your own DNA ink.

 

 

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Here are my thoughts in order:

 

1. I have to admit it crossed my mind once before.. maybe the last time I got cut too but I didn't get to try it out unfortunately.

 

 

This has never occurred to me.

 

Hmm.... Maybe next month....

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4. The DNA comment- I wonder.. imaigne in a paralell world it would be that people when signing official documents, i.e. bank related stuff, property purchases, law documents etc that they have to sign in their own blood to make sure that the person who signed is really the concerned party.. too many times people forge signatures and until the chip and pin technology things were prone to fraud..

I've never been convinced that the chip and PIN business is even as secure as a signature, to be honest. It isn't like anybody even bothers to look at the name on the card anymore, and a few of the shops I've been in what you're typing on those keypads is perfectly visible to whoever's behind you in the queue.

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Earlier true you give your card to the vendor he swipes it and gives you a small piece of paper to sign and then either checks/verifies that the signature is the same or doesnt.. either way, the rule was as long as the signature was close they'd let it go.. maybe if you are purchasing something with a very high value they ask for identification..

 

But the pin was supposed to be different.. because you can steal the card for as much as you want but as long as you can't enter the correct pin the cardholder is protected.. its up to him how well they can hide/cover it otherwise no sale unless you know a 4 digit number which is impossible to guess.. I'd say the issue is somewhat resolved nowadays..

 

But my thought was:

 

Until today there are things that can't have a chip and pin applied to them.. like leases, loans, law documents, maybe even payment checks.. that would be an idea for the DNA signature so no one can come later and say that's not me..

 

I say this because of one experience:

 

One time I was in Egypt to sell property and I signed my regular signature in English.. The purchaser said that will NOT do you have to sign in Arabic. I told him but I do not have an Arabic signature he said just write your name..

 

And so I did.. and then I thought, since its not an authorized/documented signature of mine anywhere, I can come back any day and say it was not me.. how can they prove it was? or what will they compare it to?

 

Now if that signature was written in my blood.. well.. I pretty much had to be there for that to take place no? Unless I was no longer around lol

 

 

 

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I did not see any mention of the blood-type in this post!

 

I am AB(-)! How do I know I'll get the same results?!

 

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I've never known my blood type, as if it really mattered. One may be interested to know that I spend most of my time 4600 feet above sea level. As altitude increases, red blood cell and haemoglobin mass also increase to compensate for lower oxygen levels.

Renzhe

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Let's see...you know you spend too much time on FPN, and/or have an unhealthy fixation with pens when...

 

OK so here's what happened. I cut my finger on a pop can. Instead of washing the blood off, which would be a waste, I decided to write with it. I took a small dip pen nib and dipped it (kind of) into the drop of blood on my finger, and wrote. I couldn't write very much. After the first few strokes, it just wouldn't flow down the tines, so I just smeared the nib on the paper. I probably could write more if I had more blood, like from a nosebleed. At first it was a nice bright red. I didn't get a scan of that.

 

After 5 minutes:

http://i37.tinypic.com/24vtjf4.png

 

After about 5 more minutes, with a bit of heat applied to speed up the reactions:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2dvrzb.png

 

Anyway, as an ink, it's not all that great. There are other reds that looks close enough to blood at any level of coagulation, and are fountain-pen safe. However, I don't know of any that change color.

 

If anyone wants to try this, there's plenty of free blood available at butcher shops. I'd guess pig blood is closest to human blood. Get some EDTA too.

 

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Noodler's should make a red ink like antietam but make it a permanant and call it "Devil's Advocate"

 

I would but tons of it, it seems like most contracts should be signed in the red stuff.

 

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OK so here's what happened. I cut my finger on a pop can. Instead of washing the blood off, which would be a waste, I decided to write with it. I took a small dip pen nib and dipped it (kind of) into the drop of blood on my finger, and wrote. I couldn't write very much. After the first few strokes, it just wouldn't flow down the tines, so I just smeared the nib on the paper. I probably could write more if I had more blood, like from a nosebleed. At first it was a nice bright red. I didn't get a scan of that.

 

After 5 minutes:

http://i37.tinypic.com/24vtjf4.png

 

After about 5 more minutes, with a bit of heat applied to speed up the reactions:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2dvrzb.png

 

Anyway, as an ink, it's not all that great. There are other reds that looks close enough to blood at any level of coagulation, and are fountain-pen safe. However, I don't know of any that change color.

 

If anyone wants to try this, there's plenty of free blood available at butcher shops. I'd guess pig blood is closest to human blood. Get some EDTA too.

 

 

ummmmm..........no. not really feeling that

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Pretty cool! I totally agree with the motivation: why waste it? Anyone with a vaguely open mind has wondered about what blood would look like when used as ink.

 

Diamine Monaco Red looks a bit like dried blood, but shades too well. Maybe add a bit of another red, or a red-brown color? Or heck, Sailor's Red-Brown?

 

Aaron

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I suppose its possible to cut and shape a fingernail to a nib point with slit, the underside will act as a feed, and then (soapy mouth) your finger through the slit and, lo-and-behold, the perfect travellers pen!

 

Could use a thimble if a cap was required.

 

 

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I've just seen a couple of Chinese films and TV "miniseries" on DVD, in the historical drama/ martial arts genre. There were several instances in which the protagonists had to write a letter, but they were injured on the road and apparently did not have a supply of ink, so they used their own blood. Is this an ancient cultural thing for Chinese people?

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I've just seen a couple of Chinese films and TV "miniseries" on DVD, in the historical drama/ martial arts genre. There were several instances in which the protagonists had to write a letter, but they were injured on the road and apparently did not have a supply of ink, so they used their own blood. Is this an ancient cultural thing for Chinese people?

 

You kinda answered your own question, no? As in, it was a necessity for them to use the blood, because nothing else was available.

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