Pen Brands World Wide

[Johnny Appleseed]

Here's a few more for the list:

 

Hawkes Patent Fountain Pen, G. F. Hawkes, NY USA, 1870s, ED, JA, From an ad in the New York Times, May 26, 1870. Lists address at No. 64 Nassau St. NY

 

Climax, The Climax Fountain Pen Company, NY USA, 1890s, ED?, JA, From an ad/article in the Brooklyn Eagle, Dec 7, 1896 - lists address at 130 Broadway, Brooklyn NY.

 

Yale Triumph, The Yale Fountain Pen co., NY USA, 1887, ED, JA, Ad in New York Times, Dec 11, 1887 - address at 126 William Street.

 

New Amsterdam Fountain Pen, John S. Hulin Stationers and Manufacturers, NY USA, 1888, ED?, JA, From a series of ads in the New York Times, circa March 1888 - address at 369 Broadway, NY. Also lists name as "Hulin's Improved" "New-Amsterdam Fountain Pen", so not sure what brand would have been imprinted on the pen itself.

 

Blair's Gold Fountain Pens, , NY USA, 1890, ED?, JA, New York Times ad, Dec 21, 1890 - 21 John St. only 14 words in ad, so not much other info.

 

I downloaded the list a while back and I am working on updates to a bunch of the vintage brands . . . slowly. . .

 

John

[Johnny Appleseed]

And one more - Aiken Lambert should be Aikin Lambert. It is a common mispelling, and I think we are safe correcting it. If you want to keep Aiken Lambert, then list it as a common mispelling of Aikin Lambert (might help clarify for some).

 

And for the updates:

 

Aikin Lambert, Aikin Lambert Company?, USA, 1890s-1930s, Multiple styles, JC, Aikin Lambert supplied nibs to L.E. Waterman until Waterman bought them out sometime in the 19-teens? Waterman continued to use the brand as a sub-brand up through the 1930s.

 

Also

 

ALCO, trademark of Aikin Lamber Company, USA, 1890s, Multiple styles, JC, see Aikin Lambert - ALCO trademark is often seen on nibs.

 

Both are already on the list.

 

John

[Johnny Appleseed]

Another addition:

 

Keller Special, ?, USA, , ,JA,BCHR pen on ebay - imprint "Keller Special, York PA"

 

Here is the link:

ebay - lot of 3 bhr pens aikin lambert +++

 

John

[Johnny Appleseed]

An add -

 

ACCA, ACCA, Germany, 1923+, JA, Heidelberg, Germany - from L. Michael Fultz article "Who Made this Stuff? Another Chapter... Acca," Penbid Website, 2003. Link.

 

And an update:

 

Jiffy, Jiffy Pen Company, USA, ,JA, A pen company conected to the Houston Snap-fil fountain pens, with W.A. Houston listed as manager - from L. Michael Fultz - "With Box and Instructions...." Penbid website, 2003. Link

 

John

[Johnny Appleseed]

Update to Senator (thanks to this post Senator pen company, is it former MERTZ & KRELL?).

 

962 , Senator , Senator GmbH & Co. KGaA, Germany , 40's-current, PF , OX , Connected to Diplomat - same deet over mountain logo on both. Brand name choosen by Merz & Krell company - started in 1920s.

 

John

[Maja]

Thanks for all the info, everyone! (and thanks to Gerry for updating the "master list")

 

John, you started a thread about a lovely pen made by the Wilrite Pen Company here, late last year. Could we please add it to the list?

[Johnny Appleseed]

Actually it is on the list.

 

Or at least it was - before Gerry's latest update. What happened to everything after U? Gerry?

 

I have a few more Wilrite's now - I will need to post an update to that thread.

 

 

John

[Gerry]

Yikes - I've lost a bunch? No problem - the master I have has the data... Must have been careless with my copy command....

 

Regards,

 

Gerry

 

[Edit - all back to normal now. Wilrite among them]

Edited October 12, 2006 by Gerry

[Maja]

Yikes - I've lost a bunch?  No problem - the master I have has the data...  Must have been careless with my copy command....

 

Regards,

 

Gerry

 

[Edit - all back to normal now.  Wilrite among them]

Thanks a bunch, Gerry!

 

John, I thought it was kind of weird that the Watermans were missing!

(also, I was wondering what the initials after the companies meant...I thought "MP" meant "mechanical pencils"...Now I see that they are contributors' initials and/or filling mechanisms )

[Johnny Appleseed]

Yea, Waterman, Wahl, Wirt, - a few critical items missing.

 

John

[Johnny Appleseed]

Another add:

 

Supremacy, Supremacy Pen Company, USA, 1920-1925?, LF, JA, From Ebay auction #190041092580, 10/16/2006 - "SUPREMACY PEN COMPANY of MEDFORD MASS." and “SUPREMACY 14K 3” on nib

 

Link to Auction - RARE VINTAGE 14K NIB SUPREMACY MARBLEIZED FOUNTAIN PEN

 

John

[Univer]

Hi All,

 

Got a couple more to add, courtesy of eBay.

 

First (left-hand image): a second- or third-tier-looking pen by the name of "Lifetime." I'll bet Sheaffer loved that one. Looks to be a 1930s product.

 

Second (right-hand image): a HR pen by the name of "Cadet," featuring the imprint of a soldier figure. Maybe someone with a knowledge of the history of uniforms could guess at the place of manufacture. As for the year, the WWI era seems a likely guess.

 

Oh...and we might as well add the fact that "Univer" is a Sheaffer sub-brand.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

[Johnny Appleseed]

Always Ready, , USA, 1910s?, Stylo, JA, From Poughkeepsie, New York - found on David Nishimura's Vintage Pens Website - Pen Catalog, Other Makers - A-C, October 24th, 2006.

 

Bolles Standard, Bolles, USA, 1900-1920?, Bulb-filler, JA, Obscure Toledo, Ohio brand - also from David's pen catalog, same as above.

 

Chameleon Four-Way, , USA, 1936?, Squeeze filler, JA, Double-ended pen. Also from VintagePens.com

 

VintagePens.com, Catalog, Other Makers, A-C

[antoniosz]

Broadway US FP Co, NY

see: http://cgi.ebay.com/BROADWAY-fountain-pen-...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Eggens-Hambler (ECHO), NY USA

see: http://cgi.ebay.com/EGGENS-HAMBLER-CO-EHCO...1QQcmdZViewItem

You have Eggens and Hamble

 

The H.G. Phillips Pen Co. Williamsport, Pa

see: http://cgi.ebay.com/PHILLIPS-WILLIAMSPORT-...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Add NY next to Carey

See: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Gold-Fill-Eye-Dro...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Johnny Appleseed]

For the list, I think Eggens-Hambler and ECHO should have entries for both:

 

Eggens-Hambler, Eggens-Hambler, ?,USA, LF, AZ, New York

ECHO, Eggens-Hambler, ?,USA, LF, AZ, New York

 

they are actually fairly well collected.

 

John

[rhr]

Settimo Torinese, Italy ("51" clone brand)

Here are a couple of corrections, and a suggestion.

 

#970 , Settimo Torinese is the name of a city in Italy just outside Torino, not the name of a single pen company. It used to be the center of penmaking in Italy, and there were many pen companies located in the city, even to the extent of calling itself, "the international capital of the pen". There's even a book about the history of penmaking in that city.

 

Also, #390 , Fullhalter is simply the German word for "fountain holder", just as Fullfeder is German for "fountain pen". I don't think it's the exclusive name of a pen company. ;~)

 

And one thing that drives me crazy about the list is that a great many of the entries are alphabetized by given name, or by given-name initials instead of by the surname, and also by the word "The" instead of by the actual name. This defeats the whole purpose of alphabetization as it was first conceived in the Middle Ages. ;~)

 

George Kovalenko.

 

:ph34r:

Edited November 2, 2006 by rhr

[Gerry]

Settimo Torinese, Italy ("51" clone brand)

Here are a couple of corrections, and a suggestion.

 

#970 , Settimo Torinese is the name of a city in Italy just outside Torino, not the name of a single pen company. It used to be the center of penmaking in Italy, and there were many pen companies in the city, even to the extent of calling itself, "the international capital of the pen". There's even a book about the history of penmaking in that city.

 

Also, #390 , Fullhalter is simply the German word for "fountain holder", just as Fullfeder is German for "fountain pen". I don't think it's the exclusive name of a pen company. ;~)

 

And one thing that drives me crazy about the list is that a great many of the entries are alphabetized by given name, or by given-name initials instead of by the surname, and also by the word "The" instead of by the actual name. This defeats the whole purpose of alphabetization, as it was first conceived in the Middle Ages. ;~)

 

George Kovalenko.

 

:ph34r:

George,

 

Thanks for your input.

 

I can't (and don't promise to) corroborate every input received about pen companies or brands. Basically that's why I've included the submitter's name - so that one knows who to go to if there is a question. The hardest ones to deal with are those where doubt exists about whether that indeed is a real name, since proving something exists is usually more feasible than proving something doesn't.

 

In your first case, #970, the Settimo Tourinese - the entry was submitted by Kissing https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...ndpost&p=117512 . The way he mentioned it appears to suggest that he's seen the pen, or a reference to it with enough detail to suggest that it's a 51 clone, so I suspect that it does exist, despite having the same name as the city. In this vein, it should be noted that the names include both pen companies and model names to aid in identification. If that's a poor way to set out a list, we should look at that aspect.

 

The second example, # 390, Fullhalter - the entry was one of the originals input by Max Davis (MaxPen). I just don't know whether it is a Company, Model or generic reference. I have inquired, but don't know whether there is further info to be had. I think I'll leave it in the list for now, just in case. The lack of any further data on the pen should suggest that it hasn't been deeply researched.

 

Regarding your final point, I agree, the list doesn't follow a classical alphabetized format, but I don't agree that it defeats the entire purpose of alphabetization. The method employed was to list what was likely to be seen on the pen itself, which might be the first thing the person searching for information is looking for. Nevertheless, you have a point, and I'd like to know whether others have been fighting the system to find references to pens they were looking for, but being frustrated by the organization.

 

I'm certainly willing to reorder the list, but want to know before I do that I won't be creating more difficulties than I'm solving.

 

There will always be difficulties, as I note many names thet may require some thinking: Pierre Cardin -> Cardin, Pierre? Alpha Romeo -> Romeo, Alpha? C.E. Barrett & Co -> Barrett & Co., C. E.? E. Faber -> Faber, E? Eberhard Faber -> Faber, Eberhard?

 

How about Le Boeuf, Le Lorraine, Le Merle Blanc (Merle Blanc, Le or Blanc, Le Merle? ;~)). Here Le is just the French for 'The'... right? Then there's the 'The' list - but is The Tower the name or is it the Tower?

 

All right - 'nuf funnin'. There are some things to be cleaned up certainly. I wonder if I could get some consensus on which approach to take wrt the names, particulatly when there are conflicts with names vs alphabetization.

 

Anyone else out there with some relevant experience? How about Yoyology?

 

Regards,

 

Gerry

[Lexaf]

:bunny1: Hello,

 

I am new in FPN and roaming around I found this forum.

I think it is a great initiative to make a database setup for all known fountain pens. It can be of great help to identify and classify pens.

As the data model is more or less comma delimited I was able to convert the file into the data management program I use and now it is fairly easy for me to add, change, and complete records. A lot of records have empty fields that need to be completed and I think I can make some contribution to that task.

I'm living in the Netherlands and there are a lot of local Dutch brands that could be added. Also some Belgian en some of the smaller or 'lesser' German manufacturers.

 

To start with I have a proposal to add a code to the Filling Mechanism list (used in the 'TYPE' field, as I was missing a code for cartridge/converter fillers. 'CC' ?

And maybe CR for cartridge only (as CF is already in use). I wonder if a third letter in the code could be used to indicate the type of cartridge as Parker, Sheaffer, Waterman (several), Wearever, Lamy and a lot of other brands each used the own cartridge models and systems. Same for converters.

 

Please let me know If my proposals make sense to you so I can make a contribution to this fine job of Max and Gerry.

 

LEXAF

[Gerry]

You have some excelent ideas there Lex.

 

The reason I included the commas in the post is exactly that - to allow importation into Excel or DB's like Access. Since it's a flat DB, either work well.

 

Feel free to add, update and otherwise improve our product - it's a collaborative effort, and every bit of assistance is appreciated.

 

ALthough Max hasn't been around for some time, I recently emailed him this list, and he offered to update it with new names he's collected since. I haven't seen any response yet. His initial data was limited to just the list of names - we've added the other data as it has become available.

 

As I moderate a couple of forums, and moonlight as an administrator, I sometimes don't find enough time available to keep the list up to date, or to improve it to be a relatively complete DB with information that more serious collectors might be interested in. I'd like to see it take that direction, as a public domain source of information is probably needed.

 

Regards,

 

Gerry

Edited November 15, 2006 by Gerry

[Lexaf]

:meow: Hello Gerry,

 

Thank you for your positive answer.

 

I will do some work at the list for the coming time (as long as there will be time available)

 

For now some remarks and suggestions :

 

1.) I recommend to drop the 'fixed' record numbers. They complicate the transfer in to a 'personal' data system and every time a major upgrade of the list is performed, the numbering will change. The main entry for the list should (IMHO) the brand/branding (trade mark) of the pen. When published with the brand in strict alphbetical order the list can be read and conul;ted in a fairly easys way, even only in print without the use of a data base (telephone book).

 

2.) I noticed there is quite a lot of contamination in the data fields of which i will name two: remarks in fields that should be fixed formatted and brand names used as type names en vise versa. There is a delemma here: should the list be confid to brands only, with a reference to sub brands, or should there be the possibility to reference to every known type or model name of each known brand name (or branding as you call it). I 'd prefer the last. The list will grow huge, but only then it will be of real use as a tool to determin 'found' pens .

 

3.) A difficult one: I think it is important that the different record fields have some formatting. That concerns the content (see remark 2) as well as the data formatting (e.g. date: year only? (yyyy) period? (yyyy-yyyy), complete date? (yyyy-mm-dd = european , or mm-dd-yyyy = usa?)

 

4. ) a small practical suggestion, adding to my earlyer remark about the missing Style code for cartridge fillers; there also seems to be missing a code for Safety fillers. Would 'SA' do?

 

So far for now. When I will be working on the list I think I will encounter more 'bugs' and booby traps but I'll try to report on my findins and solution proposals as much as possible.

 

Some questions:

Is it ok to use this tread for my results and findings?

How do I get the enhanced versions of the list or the records to you?

Is there any existing planning publishing new / revised versions?

Can you contact me with other fools like me who (want to) work on this list on a more or less regular basis?

 

My apologies for my English, being Dutch my English grammar and spelling will not always be correct.

 

Hope I did not bore you!

 

Regards, LEXAF aka Lex van Galen