Waterman Carene

[tlaine]

Wow, figures they'd discontinue the other color I'd like to have.

 

*bangs head on desk*

 

So figure I'd better get a gray one before I go through another incident like I did last month with a "new" (but not new) purple carene on ebay.

 

It should probably arrive next week sometime...

 

this place is bad for my checking account

 

(ps. thedailyplanner.com is having a waterman and parker sale with free shipping over $100, they have an amber shimmer medium on sale $120, no affiliation) (they did have a gray one listed, but it's gone now)

Edited June 24, 2008 by tlaine

[QM2]

The Carene is the only modern Waterman that tempts me, especially the island colours. If anybody owns the Lagoon, I am curious whether you'd describe the colour as more of a pastel blue, pastel green, or turquoise? It looks different on different photos. Is it a loud or a subdued colour?

 

Oh, and where do you get them with stub nibs? I have not seen any of the online sellers offer that as an option.

[Ghost Plane]

You can grab stubs from Mr Lewertowski's site. I've never dealt with the factory as I discovered stubs long after mine ceased to be new.

 

Why they're not more widely offered, I'll never know.

[Calbei]

You can grab stubs from Mr Lewertowski's site. I've never dealt with the factory as I discovered stubs long after mine ceased to be new.

 

Why they're not more widely offered, I'll never know.

Any chance you could do a writing comparison of the stub, broad and medium nibs? I have a medium at the moment, and I'm after another Carene (probably a lovely Islands version from Mr Lewertowski) but with a different nib.

 

[Ghost Plane]

My scanner is down at the moment, but if I can get one to work, I'll give it a go as I still have an M nib I keep in my Daytimer. Interim, the stub is very much like a crisp edged B, if you can imagine such a thing. It turned my scrawl into lovely Gothic looking lettering and I adore it. If your M is a little narrow for you, consider a stub or B. If it seems a tad generous, you might be leaning toward an F. If you're undecided, spring for the stub as there are plenty of us to take it off your hands if you decide you don't like it and they're harded to find than the B nibs [in my experience]. If you send your pens to nibmeisters for grinding tho', the B would be a better candidate for butchering, um, modifying later.

[satrap]

HEY GHOST PLANE!! I dare ya to look at the Carene!

 

 

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/WATERMAN-CARENE-PINK-G...idZp1638Q2em122

 

no really, I just want you to be happy

[Ghost Plane]

When I have the cash, JML will take care of me. He IS my Carene pusher.

[kudzu]

Ghost Plane - the link she gave IS JML! Lovely Carene, but it's not your preferred B or Stub nib - "merely" a Fine.

[Ghost Plane]

I saw. What I meant is that I shall contact JML when the time comes.

[satrap]

I saw. What I meant is that I shall contact JML when the time comes.

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Oh girl, just arrange for direct deposit! :ltcapd:

[Phroneo]

Hello All,

 

I've been reading through these posts about the Carene fountain pens, which I just love, and the prospect of purchasing new nibs for them.

 

Now, I don't know if this is true for all the Carene line, but I have the deluxe series in Prussian Blue & Green, and Amethyst bronze. I actually have a few that have broad nibs, two have medium and one has a fine nib. I tried to interchange my nibs between the Prussian Blue and Amethyst bronze - fine for broad - and found that the gold tip on the tail end of the pen did not line up with the center line of the nib. So, I tried to swap other nibs for different colored pen bodies. The same thing happened - the gold tail piece did not line up with the center line of the nib.

 

When I swapped nibs for pens with the same body color, I did not experience this problem. Now I'm only taking about 6 or 7 pens here, and the Deluxe variation of the model line. This struck me as unusual, so maybe I ran into an anomaly but I'd like to offer this as a word of caution.

 

Peace,

 

Phroneo

[Alriel]

I tried to interchange my nibs between the Prussian Blue and Amethyst bronze - fine for broad - and found that the gold tip on the tail end of the pen did not line up with the center line of the nib. So, I tried to swap other nibs for different colored pen bodies. The same thing happened - the gold tail piece did not line up with the center line of the nib.

 

I have the Deluxe version of the rollerball and the fountain pen. There is a threaded sleeve at the end of the section that you adjust so that one can line up the tail piece to the nib. It takes a little time and trial and error to play around with the number of turns needed to line up the tail piece. Does your nib/section have the threaded sleeve?

 

Al

[Phroneo]

I have the Deluxe version of the rollerball and the fountain pen. There is a threaded sleeve at the end of the section that you adjust so that one can line up the tail piece to the nib. It takes a little time and trial and error to play around with the number of turns needed to line up the tail piece. Does your nib/section have the threaded sleeve?

 

Hello Al,

 

I'm not certain that I'm following you here. I just pulled all of my Carene FPs and RBs and all of the section threaded brass 'tail' pieces are the same construction.

 

Going down the outside diameter there are the threads, then 2 rubber o-rings, and then it steps to a gold plated piece that is between the threads and the section body. It appears as if the threaded piece was fit into this unit.

 

This gold plated piece has one rectangular cutout at the 6:00 position, then there is a outward 'shelf' and then, up close to the section, there are what appears to be two tabs at the the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. No matter how hard I try I cannot get the threaded part to unscrew from the section. There has to be a way - after all, it was assembled.

 

Now if this is the unit you are describing to me that can be repositioned in order to permit a pen body to line up with the center line of the nib, I'd certainly be grateful if you would explain to us all how to release it.

 

If I can do this, I will be able to use my broad nib with my Prussian Blue Carene Deluxe, which is my favorite out of all of them.

 

Peace,

 

Phroneo

[Maine Vintner]

Phroneo

You will be able to use your broad nib with your Prussian Blue. Here's what you do:

- open the pen to access the converter; put the barrel section of the pen down

- on the section with the nib attached to the converter, find the small silver ring that covers the area where the converter meets the pen

note: if you hold the pen with the nib facing up, the threaded section is ABOVE the silver ring

- turn the silver ring counter clock-wise to loosen (note: it may be tight; you may need something to grip it - e.g., small pliers)

- once the ring is loosened, the threaded section above is free to rotate

- rotate the threaded section clock-wise or counter clock-wise (note: just a small turn - i.e., less than 1/4 turn)

- turn ring section clock-wise to tighten the threaded section back in place

- replace pen barrel and note where nib lines up relative to button section

- if still not aligned, repeat steps above until nib comes into line (note: you'll get the hang of turning the threaded section one way or the

other until the nib finally aligns)

- be patient - it'll take time but will be worth it when you get it completed

 

If these instructions do not make sense or if you are not able to follow them, please let me know and I will try to take photos.

 

Best of luck. Enjoy your pen.

Maine Vintner

 

I have the Deluxe version of the rollerball and the fountain pen. There is a threaded sleeve at the end of the section that you adjust so that one can line up the tail piece to the nib. It takes a little time and trial and error to play around with the number of turns needed to line up the tail piece. Does your nib/section have the threaded sleeve?

 

Hello Al,

 

I'm not certain that I'm following you here. I just pulled all of my Carene FPs and RBs and all of the section threaded brass 'tail' pieces are the same construction.

 

Going down the outside diameter there are the threads, then 2 rubber o-rings, and then it steps to a gold plated piece that is between the threads and the section body. It appears as if the threaded piece was fit into this unit.

 

This gold plated piece has one rectangular cutout at the 6:00 position, then there is a outward 'shelf' and then, up close to the section, there are what appears to be two tabs at the the 3:00 and 9:00 positions. No matter how hard I try I cannot get the threaded part to unscrew from the section. There has to be a way - after all, it was assembled.

 

Now if this is the unit you are describing to me that can be repositioned in order to permit a pen body to line up with the center line of the nib, I'd certainly be grateful if you would explain to us all how to release it.

 

If I can do this, I will be able to use my broad nib with my Prussian Blue Carene Deluxe, which is my favorite out of all of them.

 

Peace,

 

Phroneo

Edited June 29, 2008 by Maine Vintner

[Con]

Thank you for the clear, concise instructions, Maine Vintner.

 

I can get the small ring unscrewed,, which as you say, frees

the outside threaded ring above it to move but that ring isn't able

to be turned; I mean it is, but there on the underlying metal

tube (for lack of a better term) there is a notch into which

the second ring can only go one way.

 

Clear as mud?

 

Neither one of my Carenes lines up.

[Maine Vintner]

Thanks for the feedback on the notes. If you were able to loosen the small ring you are more than

half-way home. When you loosen the ring the threaded section should move; there isn't really any-

thing holding it in place other than the ring below it (which has been loosened). The thing to look

out for is it is hard to see the threaded ring move with the naked eye. It may be moving and you

might not perceive it. You can mark it with a Sharpie so you have a reference point.

 

Try it again and let me know if this still doesn't do the trick. The key to this is the threaded ring. It

should turn when the solid ring is loosened. If it does not, try taking the silver ring all the way off to

ensure it is not retightening against the threaded ring without your knowledge.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Maine Vintner

Thank you for the clear, concise instructions, Maine Vintner.

 

I can get the small ring unscrewed,, which as you say, frees

the outside threaded ring above it to move but that ring isn't able

to be turned; I mean it is, but there on the underlying metal

tube (for lack of a better term) there is a notch into which

the second ring can only go one way.

 

Clear as mud?

 

Neither one of my Carenes lines up.

 

[Con]

Huh.

 

I got the green shimmer fixed, thank you!

 

But the black?

 

No go.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/ConLaz/carenedetail.jpg

 

That section labeled "notched tube" doesn't move-

doesn't turn, and I can't get the second ring to turn

because it can only go on over the notch.

 

I can tell you the threads feel sticky ... like old grease.

 

I wonder why the difference between the two... the green shimmer

"ring two" moved freely.

 

EDIT:

 

YEAH!

 

The black one is able to be fixed now. (I just have to have the patience to do it)

 

Couldn't figure out why I could move one ring on one pen and

not the other.

 

Had to have something to do with that notch and the ring

going over it.

 

Sure did.

 

Popped the "ring two" off, turned it over, and put it back

on and problem solved! The little piece of metal inside goes

over the notch and the ring is able to still turn.

 

Thanks so much!

Edited June 29, 2008 by Con

[zenshrink]

I did the same thing with my misaligned Carene Deluxe Blue and it worked. Interesting that they put the ring on upside down!

 

Thanks for the help.

[SteveH]

Thanks Con and Main Vintner, I just aligned my Carene and interestingly enough my ring was on upside down too.

[Ghost Plane]

One of the great quality control mysteries of the Carene solved!