Hero 86 "calligraphy" pen

[His Nibs]

I respectfully disagree with Norman's post above.

 

I'm not sure that there's disagreement per se, and your results are certainly interesting. My comments come more from my wife's use -- who is a Chinese calligrapher -- and other native Chinese who grew up using this type of pen as an adjunct to the real calligraphy brush.

[Dr.Grace]

In my experience, I agree with both of you, in the sense that I tend to have to hold the pen at a high angle to get fine enough strokes for very complicated characters, but want to use a lower angle for expressive strokes that look like they could've been made with a brush. I think the bending angle is a bit different for each of these nibs, too, so you have to adjust your angle for different nibs.

Edited January 4, 2010 by Dr.Grace

[His Nibs]

... I think the bending angle is a bit different for each of these nibs, too, so you have to adjust your angle for different nibs.

 

That's correct. There's variation between the Hero, Duke, Bookworm and Leonardo versions, for instance.

[troglokev]

Yes. If I want to describe my feelings when I see it done properly by a native (憂鬱), I need the steeper angle.

[Rabbit]

Using bent nibs requires a whole new set of skills. You might be able to use it as a "zoomable" italic nib, but it's original use was to imitate brush characters.

 

This is what so users are capable of doing. http://www.polodelux...og/archives/105

 

p.s. Some Asian FP users bend their own nibs.

 

Ah! It's nice to see what these are capable of in the right hands. Someone on here gave me a Hero 330 with a nib like this a few years ago. (and I forgot to back-up my PMs so I cannot remember who it was! If you remember... please remind me!) He said, "This is the way the nib was made." and for the longest time I thought, "You're joking! You must have dropped this pen or something!" but then I looked around online and noticed that they actually do make nibs like this. Anyway, it's fun to use, even if not using it for its intended purpose!

 

--Stephen

Edited January 4, 2010 by Rabbit

[polodeluxe]

Using bent nibs requires a whole new set of skills. You might be able to use it as a "zoomable" italic nib, but it's original use was to imitate brush characters.

 

This is what so users are capable of doing. http://www.polodeluxe.idv.tw/blog/archives/105

 

p.s. Some Asian FP users bend their own nibs.

 

Hello, I'm the owner of this blog, found the link of this thread in my wordpress control panel.

Yes, sometimes Asian fountain pen users bend nibs, especially in Taiwan and Main Land China.(I'm from Taiwan)

 

http://www.polodeluxe.idv.tw/blog/archives/105 <-- in this case,

The nib bended by chopsticks, we roll thechopsticks on the nib.

The bended pen was made by Platinum Pens in Japan. It was old model, about 30 yeas ago.

 

I have Hero 86,too. http://www.polodeluxe.idv.tw/blog/archives/147

It designed for imitating brush character, but not works well.

Better performance in brush imitating was made by Sailor(JAPAN),

I tested The model "Cross Emperor" of Sailor few ays ago. It's amazing! http://www.polodeluxe.idv.tw/blog/archives/529

Edited January 4, 2010 by polodeluxe

[Sailor Kenshin]

I respectfully disagree with Norman's post above.

 

I'm not sure that there's disagreement per se, and your results are certainly interesting. My comments come more from my wife's use -- who is a Chinese calligrapher -- and other native Chinese who grew up using this type of pen as an adjunct to the real calligraphy brush.

 

I think I want to start collecting these fude nibs.

 

Who sells them? I already own a Sailor Bamboo demonstrator, the aforementioned Hero 86, and another Sailor fude (the pen looks just like a 1911, wish I knew the name!!)

 

I just took a pic with my phone. Now if I could only post it... :embarrassed_smile:

[Rabbit]

 

Hello, I'm the owner of this blog, found the link of this thread in my wordpress control panel.

Yes, sometimes Asian fountain pen users bend nibs, especially in Taiwan and Main Land China.(I'm from Taiwan)

 

http://www.polodelux...og/archives/105 <-- in this case,

The nib bended by chopsticks, we roll thechopsticks on the nib.

The bended pen was made by Platinum Pens in Japan. It was old model, about 30 yeas ago.

 

I have Hero 86,too. http://www.polodelux...og/archives/147

It designed for imitating brush character, but not works well.

Better performance in brush imitating was made by Sailor(JAPAN),

I tested The model "Cross Emperor" of Sailor few ays ago. It's amazing! http://www.polodelux...og/archives/529

Thank you for sharing that tip about the chopsticks and some more of your writing samples. I'm glad you found our forum-- welcome to FPN!

 

--Stephen

[Dr.Grace]

I'm wondering if anyone knows when these pens were first created? I haven't seen any vintage pens with nibs like that for sale on eBay, just modern ones. But in one Chinese film I saw that depicts events during the Japanese occupation of China in the 1940s, the lead character, who is Japanese, uses a nib like this. Is this an anachronism or were nibs like that available around WWII?

[Dr.Grace]

 

 

another Sailor fude (the pen looks just like a 1911, wish I knew the name!!)

 

I just took a pic with my phone. Now if I could only post it... :embarrassed_smile:

 

It's the "Special Script".

[Sailor Kenshin]

 

 

another Sailor fude (the pen looks just like a 1911, wish I knew the name!!)

 

I just took a pic with my phone. Now if I could only post it... :embarrassed_smile:

 

It's the "Special Script".

 

Thanks! I managed to post the pic on another thread---this is a great little pen.

 

Now I have the bent-nib bug.

[Ed Ronax]

Thanks for the review, interesting pen.

[hoche]

I have this pen, It is a good pen for chinese calligraphy.