Help identifying hooded Sheaffer

[bobtheartist]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can help me id a pen I just bought. I have never seen a Sheaffer with a nib like this, but I admit my experience is limited. I have looked around, but to no avail.

 

If anyone could help me id it, or point me in the right direction, I would be grateful. I am referring to the black pen, not the grey one.

 

Thanks!

 

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/bcsssj/bb66_1.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/bcsssj/bf0f_1.jpg

Edited April 29, 2008 by bobtheartist

[bobtheartist]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can help me id a pen I just bought. I have never seen a Sheaffer with a nib like this, but I admit my experience is limited. I have looked around, but to no avail.

 

If anyone could help me id it, or point me in the right direction, I would be grateful. I am referring to the black pen, not the grey one.

 

Thanks!

 

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/bcsssj/bb66_1.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o163/bcsssj/bf0f_1.jpg

 

Nevermind! Looks like it is a hooded Sheaffer School pen.

[Martius]

Yup! I believe these are from the early 1960's - a lower-end version of the Imperial and the PFM line.

 

Best,

Summer Greer

[Univer]

Hi,

 

Lower than the Imperial and the PFM to be sure - for my part, I regard this model as occupying the bottom position on the Sheaffer Cartridge Pen evolutionary chart. (Absolutely no disrespect intended; I'm a great admirer of the Sheaffer school-type pens.)

 

I don't have one in the original packaging, so I don't know for sure what the pen was called; although I wouldn't be at all surprised if this, too, was simply designated "Cartridge Pen." It's certainly an odd creature, with its faceted body and its toy-like plastic.

 

The pen gets a passing mention in Richard Binder's article on hooded nibs. I trust he won't mind if I quote, in relevant part: This pen is mechanically identical to Sheaffer’s open-nibbed school pens, using the same nib and feed, but its section is reshaped to form a shell that covers part of the nib. This model is made of a surprisingly soft plastic, more like polyethylene than the usual polystyrene of the 1950s, and the surface damages very easily.

 

As Richard points out, this is a faux hooded nib; there's a conventional open nib under that shell. So the pen shares the writing characteristics of the "standard" Sheaffer Cartridge Pens (a good thing, as far as I'm concerned).

 

Personally, I would also date the model to the early/mid 1960s, but that's pure conjecture.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

[cvasara]

It looks like a Dolphin to me. I have two of them, and use one in my regular rotation. Its the only pen on my desk that does not have black ink in it! It is a nice writer, cartridge only I believe and there were several models of the Dolphin.

 

There is a nice section in Richards Sheaffer section on them. you might look here

 

http://www.penhero.com/PenGallery/Sheaffer...fferDolphin.htm

 

The nib and the hood is slightly different than the two that I have, but I'm thinking its in the Dolphin family

[Federalist Pens]

They're AKA Stylpoint nibs according to Penhero at his site on the early cartridge pens.

They have been called Imperial models. They were more expensive than standard cartridge/student pens.

They are also wider, and they write smooth.

 

I have a couple of these in good shape that I am willing to part with in red and grey. They have chrome caps, and fine nibs. I will be posting them in the marketplace shortly! I also have a spare chrome cap for these models!

[Univer]

Hi All,

 

Sorry to seem insistent and whiny, but this really, really is an entry-level faceted "school pen" with a pseudo hooded nib - not a Dolphin or a Stylpoint.

 

Here's a Dolphin:

 

 

Among other things, you can see that the faceted pen lacks the prominent "v" of the Dolphin.

 

And here's a Stylpoint (this is an Imperial I, but this nib style also appeared on some "school pens"):

 

 

On close inspection, you'll note that the Stylpoint section has a "v"-shaped cutout oriented toward the barrel; the faceted pen's "hood" sits above the nib, forming a "v" that faces away from the barrel.

 

Truly, if you had all three models in your hand, the soft plastic of the faceted pen alone would tell the story. This humble little creature really is a lonesome anomaly in the Sheaffer world.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon

 

PS Photos shamelessly borrowed from Jim's marvelous PenHero gallery.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Univer

[Ernst Bitterman]

I've got one of these things come in from eBay, and I'd love to attach this

 

This humble little creature really is a lonesome anomaly in the Sheaffer world.

 

to the descriptive page I'll eventually put up on my website, if I may. Finely turned phrase, that.

[jhsiao]

Yeah. I had one of these and requested an ID a while ago. Univer was helpful enough in finding the exact model. Somewhere in this thread, I have a link to Richard Binder's site where he shows a pic of the model (the hooded pen link).

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...hl=soft+plastic

 

It's definitely not a dolphin. I have one of those too and this is definitely not it...

 

The plastic on this cartridge school pen is akin to an infant's toy (softer than Lego blocks).

[Univer]

I've got one of these things come in from eBay, and I'd love to attach this

 

This humble little creature really is a lonesome anomaly in the Sheaffer world.

 

to the descriptive page I'll eventually put up on my website, if I may. Finely turned phrase, that.

Hello Ernst,

 

My pleasure, and thanks for the kind words. They're especially welcome coming from a colleague with a talent for turning fine phrases of his own.

 

Cheers,

 

Jon