Which bullet-proof blue-black?

[Iridium]

I just made a dicovery. Noodlers Bullet Proof Black Ink is only bullet proof depending on the type of paper you use. I just wrote 2 letters on German staionery and 1 letter showed a smear I couldn't figure out what made it since the ink was dry. I dabbed a little bit of water on a paper towel and it washed almost completely off. I tested it on some other paper and it did not smear or wash out. I guess it could be the celuloid content in the paper. Noodlers claim it that once it is on the paper, the celuloid in the paper makes it permanent.

 

Coincidentally, I've tested Noodler's Bulletproof Black on numerous types of paper--obtained in large part from junk mail --and I've recently found one type with which this ink does not appear to react. A lot of the ink simply sat on top, easily smeared, and what little that penetrated the fibers was easily washed out. The paper seems to be made of cellulose fibers, not plastic, and the other fountain pen inks I tested on this paper penetrated and dried just fine, with no smearing. Intrigued, I tried a number of different non-fountain pens, and got mixed results. For example the inks of ballpoints, Sharpies, and most rollerballs worked just fine, except for the Uniball Vision, which behaved much like Noodler's Black; this ink is also waterproof, interestingly enough. The Uniball Signo 207 gel ink was prone to smearing, although it left an indelible trace. The Sakura Gelly Roll gel tended to sit on top much more than usual, but did not easily smear and was quite permanent.

 

On all of the other types of paper I've tested, Bulletproof Black really is amazingly resistant to water and chemicals, so I'm not trying to put down its capabilities--it's the real deal, and works as advertised. However, some forms of "paper" may be missing certain specific molecules with which the ink is trying to bind chemically (just a guess). :hmm1: We might want to send samples to Nathan for analysis...or make checks out of it and claim the prize for washing off Bulletproof Black.

[Goshzilla]

I just made a dicovery. Noodlers Bullet Proof Black Ink is only bullet proof depending on the type of paper you use. I just wrote 2 letters on German staionery and 1 letter showed a smear I couldn't figure out what made it since the ink was dry. I dabbed a little bit of water on a paper towel and it washed almost completely off. I tested it on some other paper and it did not smear or wash out. I guess it could be the celuloid content in the paper. Noodlers claim it that once it is on the paper, the celuloid in the paper makes it permanent.

 

Coincidentally, I've tested Noodler's Bulletproof Black on numerous types of paper--obtained in large part from junk mail --and I've recently found one type with which this ink does not appear to react. A lot of the ink simply sat on top, easily smeared, and what little that penetrated the fibers was easily washed out. The paper seems to be made of cellulose fibers, not plastic, and the other fountain pen inks I tested on this paper penetrated and dried just fine, with no smearing. Intrigued, I tried a number of different non-fountain pens, and got mixed results. For example the inks of ballpoints, Sharpies, and most rollerballs worked just fine, except for the Uniball Vision, which behaved much like Noodler's Black; this ink is also waterproof, interestingly enough. The Uniball Signo 207 gel ink was prone to smearing, although it left an indelible trace. The Sakura Gelly Roll gel tended to sit on top much more than usual, but did not easily smear and was quite permanent.

 

On all of the other types of paper I've tested, Bulletproof Black really is amazingly resistant to water and chemicals, so I'm not trying to put down its capabilities--it's the real deal, and works as advertised. However, some forms of "paper" may be missing certain specific molecules with which the ink is trying to bind chemically (just a guess). :hmm1: We might want to send samples to Nathan for analysis...or make checks out of it and claim the prize for washing off Bulletproof Black.

 

Paper is treated differently with chemicals depending what it is designed for. Some paper is treated to bond with ink, and others are treated to keep pencil marks from fading. I find alot that cheap notebook filler paper binds with ink better than it does with pencil. That more expensive paper like engineering pads bind with pencil or india ink than it does with noodler's ink.

[juhtolv]

Okay. I ordered that Legal Lapis last Monday. Now it is Friday, but that ink is not yet arrived.

 

[Sousy]

Okay. I ordered that Legal Lapis last Monday. Now it is Friday, but that ink is not yet arrived.

 

Did you hear from Pendemonium? They've typically been very good about replying to order requests and letting you know when things are shipping.

 

[juhtolv]

Okay. I ordered that Legal Lapis last Monday. Now it is Friday, but that ink is not yet arrived.

 

Did you hear from Pendemonium? They've typically been very good about replying to order requests and letting you know when things are shipping.

 

Yes. Sam sent me E-Mail that said they ship my stuff on Tuesday via USPS First Class International Mail (FCIM). I am not in panic. This is not the first time I order something from Pendemonium or other mail-order pen shop of the USA. My former orders have taken about one week to arrive to my door.

[juhtolv]

Okay. That bottle of Noodler's Ink Legal Lapis just came to my door.

 

It is just like Noodler's Ink Legal Blue, except it is much darker. Both Legal Blue and Legal Lapis leans towards dark turquoise. I hope I will find some better blue-black bullet-proof ink some day, but it is not too painful to use this Legal Lapis, though.

Edited December 12, 2007 by juhtolv

[fjf]

Yes, we lack nice bulletproof blues. I hope some day we'll get one...

[Tojusi]

Yes, we lack nice bulletproof blues. I hope some day we'll get one...

 

Well, it depends entirely on how you - and I literally mean "you" - define "nice" and "blue".

 

I, for one, find that both Noodler's Legal Lapis and Upper Ganges Blue are quite nice.

 

/Tojusi

[juhtolv]

Yes, we lack nice bulletproof blues. I hope some day we'll get one...

 

Well, it depends entirely on how you - and I literally mean "you" - define "nice" and "blue".

 

I, for one, find that both Noodler's Legal Lapis and Upper Ganges Blue are quite nice.

 

I already have two blue bullet-proof blue inks, Noodler's Ink Luxury Blue and Legal Blue. I like that Luxury Blue more: Most of the time I think it is stylish and vintage-looking but sometimes it feels boring. On the the other hand it grows on you. It looks better in wet pen, but it never looks like popping up from paper like Waterman Florida Blue, Aurora Blue or Sheaffer Blue (Made in Slovenia).

 

Next bullet-proof blue I am going to try out is that Noodler's Ink Upper Ganges Blue. Next bullet-proof blue-black I am going to try out is Noodler's Ink Prussian Blue (missing-pen.de exclusive).

 

[fjf]

I just mean I like vibrant colors. And the bulletproofs (except the black) are chalky. Nothing wrong with them if you like lifeless colors. This has been discussed to death around here.

 

 

 

Yes, we lack nice bulletproof blues. I hope some day we'll get one...

 

Well, it depends entirely on how you - and I literally mean "you" - define "nice" and "blue".

 

I, for one, find that both Noodler's Legal Lapis and Upper Ganges Blue are quite nice.

 

/Tojusi

 

[juhtolv]

It is just like Noodler's Ink Legal Blue, except it is much darker. Both Legal Blue and Legal Lapis leans towards dark turquoise.

 

What the heck? Sometimes it looks like dark turquoise or dark green but sometimes it looks like very dark blue. It all depends on paper, light, day, mood and maybe even sun spots. This is weird.

 

[Viseguy]

What the heck? Sometimes it looks like dark turquoise or dark green but sometimes it looks like very dark blue. It all depends on paper, light, day, mood and maybe even sun spots. This is weird.

Same experience here. An ink with a thousand faces. It's what makes Legal Lapis interesting, I think (aside from the bulletproof aspect).

[Immoteus]

Has anyone tried diamine's bb registrar ink?

[Mr.Rene]

Has anyone tried diamine's bb registrar ink?

Greetings!

I'm testing this ink in my sailor calligraphy pen.This Blue ink is a classic iron gall formula,so, I love the way like the ink turns black in some hours.Of course,like every iron-gall formula(Montblanc,Pelikan,Lamy.etc) the ink is permanent in the paper when is completely black,

Best Regards,

René.

[juhtolv]

like every iron-gall formula(Montblanc,Pelikan,Lamy.etc) the ink is permanent in the paper when is completely black,

 

Pelikan 4001 Blue-black is not iron-gall ink. I asked this few years ago from Pelikan company and they gave me that answer.