Jun Lai (Wing Sung) 930: #9 Nib in Steel

[shane27]

I got this pen today, the pen and nib is humongous! This is the first pen I've owned where I wondered if it is actually too large...the nib is so big that it puts my hand far away from the paper when I'm writing

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

3 hours ago, shane27 said:

I got this pen today, the pen and nib is humongous! This is the first pen I've owned where I wondered if it is actually too large...the nib is so big that it puts my hand far away from the paper when I'm writing

#9 is for aesthetics. 

I find #6 best in hand. 

 

Btw , where do u locate? I thought sea courier could take you at least 2 weeks. 

[lascosas]

Mine arrived this afternoon and  I've been using it for the last hour. I also wonder if this isn't a size too large.  At some point, what is the point?  Here are some comparisons.  The first 2 are Montblanc 149 (the baby pen), then Guider Zimbo, considered the giant of Indian ebonites (which takes a #6 nib), and a #15 Sailor nib.  As you would expect, the piston on this pen inhales a ton of ink.

[Dan Carmell]

@lacostas I’ve seen several others comment after this arrived and the general opinion seems to be it’s too much. Mine arrives tomorrow. 

[K Singh]

2 hours ago, lascosas said:

Mine arrived this afternoon and  I've been using it for the last hour. I also wonder if this isn't a size too large.  At some point, what is the point?  Here are some comparisons.  The first 2 are Montblanc 149 (the baby pen), then Guider Zimbo, considered the giant of Indian ebonites (which takes a #6 nib), and a #15 Sailor nib.  As you would expect, the piston on this pen inhales a ton of ink.

The pen does look too good for the price though 👍 While I am comfortable in using Jumbo-sized pens, I am not too sure about using such giant nibs. Would love to hear your thoughts on how comfortable you find this pen for writing, in comparison to Indian Jumbos from Guider and Kim.

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

12 hours ago, lascosas said:

Mine arrived this afternoon and  I've been using it for the last hour. I also wonder if this isn't a size too large.  At some point, what is the point?  Here are some comparisons.  The first 2 are Montblanc 149 (the baby pen), then Guider Zimbo, considered the giant of Indian ebonites (which takes a #6 nib), and a #15 Sailor nib.  As you would expect, the piston on this pen inhales a ton of ink.

Yes, unhealthy grip diameter. 

 

I used up 2 ink refill from 930 already. I believe now I am accustomed and get used to size of grip. But, I still think jl629/mj p136/mb146/ws699/p742 feels better in hand. 

 

The long nib isn't a issue. This is the grip, inhumanly gargantuan. 

 

JL B is superb for western characters, rubbish for Chinese characters. 

 

The only value of 930 is letting you experience #9 at as low as rmb170 or usd50. 

 

Stay tune for steel #8 in B with a 630 Demonstrator, request was made, sounds promising. Expected to be available within 3 months.

 

Before that, Majohn P139 Demonstrator (maybe in steel B, maybe) is expected in a month. 

[lascosas]

I should have been clear about my previous comment that I thought this is too big.  I actually meant the #9 nib, not the pen body.  I am in love with ebonite monsters, so the overall size, and grip girth, don't bother me.  

 

K Singh-

Below is a comparison with a Kim ACR Jumbo & Guider Zimbo.  The 930 has a slightly thinner grip than the other two & the Kim is noticeably longer.  Weight?  None are heavy pens, but at least with a full tank of ink, the 930 is slightly heavier, but I would say not enough to make a difference.   But as you can see in the second photo, the big difference is the nib size.  The Kim & Guider are #6, and the 930 is a #9.  I happen to have a Kanwrite & Schmidt in the ebonites, but as you know, it is very easy to switch out those nibs for a variety of other #6 nibs.  This is my only #9, so I'm stuck with it.  The nib has some bounce, which you would expect with that size, and is wet enough and does not railroad or skip, starting up right away (with the caveat that I've only had it for one day), but it is, well, corporate and boring.  Way too smooth.  I actually used some micro mesh to rough up the nib, give it some feedback. 

 

The price on Ali as I write this is $38 USD, which is a very low price for a piston filler with a large nib.  And if I had lots of #9 nibs it wouldn't be a bad pen for switching out the nibs.  But I just don't care for this monster of a nib.

[Dan Carmell]

@lascosas

I read your post and immediately afterwards mine was delivered. I’m happy to find the section isn’t too wide for me. 
 

I see the pen and nib are labeled as Jun Lai only, making this completely a Jun Lai pen. We will have the WS 630 but the JL 930. I noticed it came packaged in a Lamy Safari-type box, but extra large, and with the Jun Lai name. 
 

I can’t help but feel that this design, that worked well for the 628, 629, and 630 does not translate as well on this massive scale. It feels a little bland, to be honest. 
 

I’ve seen several complaints about the interlinked cap band (630 & 930) over on Reddit, from people who’d prefer to see separated rings. But JunL clearly sees the cap band as a feature of these high end pens. It’s interesting to note that the cap band specifies ’Made in Shanghai’ rather than Made in China. 
 

More after the barrel of ink arrives and I can fill this behemoth!

[lascosas]

Dan Carmell-

Glad it arrived, which nib width did you select? 

 

K Singh-

I realized the better comparison with the 930 is the Ambitious #8.  I've got several of those, including the below which is on a beautiful Ranga ebonite (I don't remember the model number).

 

[K Singh]

4 hours ago, lascosas said:

I should have been clear about my previous comment that I thought this is too big.  I actually meant the #9 nib, not the pen body.  I am in love with ebonite monsters, so the overall size, and grip girth, don't bother me.  

 

K Singh-

Below is a comparison with a Kim ACR Jumbo & Guider Zimbo.  The 930 has a slightly thinner grip than the other two & the Kim is noticeably longer.  Weight?  None are heavy pens, but at least with a full tank of ink, the 930 is slightly heavier, but I would say not enough to make a difference.   But as you can see in the second photo, the big difference is the nib size.  The Kim & Guider are #6, and the 930 is a #9.  I happen to have a Kanwrite & Schmidt in the ebonites, but as you know, it is very easy to switch out those nibs for a variety of other #6 nibs.  This is my only #9, so I'm stuck with it.  The nib has some bounce, which you would expect with that size, and is wet enough and does not railroad or skip, starting up right away (with the caveat that I've only had it for one day), but it is, well, corporate and boring.  Way too smooth.  I actually used some micro mesh to rough up the nib, give it some feedback. 

 

The price on Ali as I write this is $38 USD, which is a very low price for a piston filler with a large nib.  And if I had lots of #9 nibs it wouldn't be a bad pen for switching out the nibs.  But I just don't care for this monster of a nib.

Thank you so much for your detailed response and the comparison with Indian Jumbos 🙏 Yes, my primary concern is the nib length only as I am used to Jumbo Indian pens. I used to experiment with different nib sizes in my Jumbo pens, and while I love huge pens I find 28mm or 35mm nib length at max to be the most comfortable. I don't think I can even  use that Ranga with 40mm comfortably. 

 

I have this black giant guider which is even bigger than the Kim Jumbo, but that too is comfortable to use because of the smaller nib(the rightmost pen below). But given the pricing of this junlai 930, it's a great way to test out the #9 nib. I'm glad they make such pens 👍

 

[Dan Carmell]

@lascosas Fine nib, and it would have been an EF if it was offered. I could see buying the B and having it stubbed, however. 
 

BTW, just saw that 365Days is offering #9 18K nib units in their V imprint or heartbeat. F/M/B and JF (long knife) points. I guess you could put on in the 930 and have the cheapest #9 18K pen around, although the ebonite and titanium versions are only $150 more. 

[shane27]

On 4/2/2025 at 12:14 AM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

#9 is for aesthetics. 

I find #6 best in hand. 

 

Btw , where do u locate? I thought sea courier could take you at least 2 weeks. 

I am in Texas. Ordered March 22, delivered April 1st

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

1 minute ago, shane27 said:

I am in Texas. Ordered March 22, delivered April 1st

Sonic 

[hssqq]

You guys stick with the Indian ones so we keep these baby to our own. No joke.

[antoniosz]

I just got mine.  No problem with size but I am getting my finger inked from the gap at the base of the nib unit. I think I need the "special" key....

[OCArt]

Fountain Pen Therapy did a video review, he found the Broad nib to be smoother than the Medium.  I have the Broad and can verify that it is a very, very smooth writer-- equal to my MB149 in smoothness.  Also a very wet nib which, perhaps, adds to the feeling of smoothness.

 

 

[GoldenBear]

11 hours ago, antoniosz said:

I just got mine.  No problem with size but I am getting my finger inked from the gap at the base of the nib unit. I think I need the "special" key....

 

I've received the 930 yesterday and I had the same problem with leakage. With mine there was an O-Ring missing at the top of the housing. There should be two, but on mine only the bottom one where there. You can just screw out the housing without need of pulling nib and feed for this. I posted this yesterday on the German Penexchange forum. Maybe it helps you too! Greetings from Germany

 

(edit: this picture singled out looks messy. The background is cardboard from a notepad, not a dirty floor )

 

 

 

[antoniosz]

On 4/10/2025 at 1:28 AM, GoldenBear said:

 

I've received the 930 yesterday and I had the same problem with leakage. With mine there was an O-Ring missing at the top of the housing. There should be two, but on mine only the bottom one where there. You can just screw out the housing without need of pulling nib and feed for this. I posted this yesterday on the German Penexchange forum. Maybe it helps you too! Greetings from Germany

 

(edit: this picture singled out looks messy. The background is cardboard from a notepad, not a dirty floor )

 

 

 

Thanks Goldenbear. Mine had ... none  I need to find now the right size/type.

 

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

I confirmed there are 2 o rings on mine. 

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx6jgcfROAwve--Hn9T34zZ7W6anxTb0BK?si=gku__YLS3GVuhFxn

[jchch1950]

Still waiting for mine. I will check the O-rings on arrival. It seems different people are putting together the pens, some with one O-ring, some with two and others without any. Lack of minimum quality control?