EFNIR: Rohrer & Klingner Document Black

[LizEF]

Extra Fine Nib Ink Review: Rohrer & Klingner Document Black

This is review #324 in my series. Here's the YouTube video:

Post-recording notes: This ink was gifted to me by a generous FPGeek. It's black, the images look black. It forms bubbles if you shake it up vigorously.

The ink dries a bit quickly on the nib, so don't pause for long. It also hard starts after a few hours idle. (That could be an indication the cap of my Prera is starting to wear out, or it could be the ink - impossible to say.) On Sunday (day 6), I started having flow problems and flossed. On Monday, I rinsed the nib and feed under running water. It didn't help. I had to do a *lot* of vertical stroke scribbling before the horizontal flow would resume.

After the review, I discovered paper fibers between the tines (probably from all the scribbling I've had to do to keep ink flowing), so the wider lines lower down the page aren't solely from the ink flow. I've left the line width as usually measured, but from the past week, the line does get a bit wider once the ink is flowing well, but perhaps not as wide as it looks in the review.

I was brave (aka lazy) and put this in my Prera and a converter rather than my Penmanship and a cartridge... Cleaning wasn't too bad for a permanent ink, but you're going to want a pen flush or a swab for those places where ink was able to dry in the pen.  I'm not certain, but my Prera section may have a very, very slight hint of purple about it now.

NOTE: The video looks out of focus to me until the water test - not sure why, but I'm sorry about that.

Zoomed in photo

Screenshot

Scan of Completed Review

Absorbent Paper Close-up (top is puzzle paper like thick newsprint, bottom is old 20lb copy paper)

Line width (The "I" in "Ink:". Magnification is 100x. The grid is 100x100µm. The scale is 360µm, with twelve divisions of 30µm each. The line width for this ink is roughly 352µm. With 324 inks measured, the average line width is 297µm.)

Microscope image (100x. The pinkish curly parts down the center should be more purple, and the colors on the right side more subdued.  The burned out white parts should not be burned out...)

Water Test Results

Other (The ink is darker than it looks, but I had to lighten things up so you can see some details of the void... :D)

Previous Review: Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite.

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Hope you enjoy. Comments appreciated!

[Lithium466]

Thank you @LizEF for preserving my wallet! I do like the cool pink fuzzies but everything else, yuck!

[Sailor Kenshin]

Why, yes, it IS black.  But it looks gray compared to Void Kitteh.  And it creates entire planets!  With only a few groans, scratching and whining.

 

 I'm on the fence indeed.  I have a million black inks already, and some come with their very own Makhabesh feathers.

 

As for the story, I'm on the edge of my seat!  Thank you, @LizEFfor not only making Tuesdays magically colorful, even when the color is black…but saving me a time or two from spending.
 

 I always look forward to your EFNIRs.
 

[yazeh]

Thank you for such a detailed review @LizEF  and a sobering comparison @Mr Void. aka Klaw. 🙀

 

The ink looks a very nice black but it seems to have most of the qualities I dislike in an ink, namely refusal to flow and long drytimes. 

The storyline was so touching and emotional, I felt a tear venturing in the void 😄 

 

Thanks for bringing friendship and kindness to this crazy Tuesday 🙏🙏🙏

[LizEF]

57 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

Thank you @LizEF for preserving my wallet! I do like the cool pink fuzzies but everything else, yuck!

  You're most welcome.  Klaw is gowling however, and expects you to explicitly exclude him from the set described as "yuck"!

[LizEF]

48 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

Why, yes, it IS black.  But it looks gray compared to Void Kitteh.  And it creates entire planets!  With only a few groans, scratching and whining.

Were it not for the planet, there would be little to talk about with this ink...  (Except how the magnificence of my master, King Klaw, the Void, makes this ink pale in comparison.)

 

49 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

I'm on the fence indeed.  I have a million black inks already, and some come with their very own Makhabesh feathers.

 

50 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

As for the story, I'm on the edge of my seat!  Thank you, @LizEFfor not only making Tuesdays magically colorful, even when the color is black…but saving me a time or two from spending.

You're most welcome!

 

50 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

I always look forward to your EFNIRs.

Thank you!

[LizEF]

22 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Thank you for such a detailed review @LizEF  and a sobering comparison @Mr Void. aka Klaw. 🙀

You're most welcome!

 

22 minutes ago, yazeh said:

The ink looks a very nice black but it seems to have most of the qualities I dislike in an ink, namely refusal to flow and long drytimes. 

Yeah, I didn't have good luck with this one.  It would probably be fine outside a desert, but wasn't too cooperative here.

 

23 minutes ago, yazeh said:

The storyline was so touching and emotional, I felt a tear venturing in the void 😄 

Thank you!

 

24 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Thanks for bringing friendship and kindness to this crazy Tuesday 🙏🙏🙏

Gladly!

[knarflj]

I just love it when I come home tired from work, put my feet up on the sofa, see that the "unread content" at FPN contains a new EFNIR, and remember, "Oh right, it's Tuesday!"  That always lifts my spirits, even when the ink is black.

 

Thank you for the new story instalment, the lovely pink planet, and another view of the beautiful void. 

[inkstainedruth]

@LizEFThanks as usual for the comprehensive review.  This is one I can pass on because of the dry time and because I already have a bottle of Noodler's Heart of Darkness (which dries a LOT quicker) and a bottle of Noodler's Old Manhattan (which is super black but that might be partly because of its tendency to spread on the page, thus causing something of an optical illusion).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[LizEF]

12 minutes ago, knarflj said:

I just love it when I come home tired from work, put my feet up on the sofa, see that the "unread content" at FPN contains a new EFNIR, and remember, "Oh right, it's Tuesday!"  That always lifts my spirits, even when the ink is black.

Thank you!

 

13 minutes ago, knarflj said:

Thank you for the new story instalment, the lovely pink planet, and another view of the beautiful void. 

You're most welcome! Have a great evening.

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

@LizEFThanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

You're very welcome!

 

4 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

This is one I can pass on because of the dry time and because I already have a bottle of Noodler's Heart of Darkness (which dries a LOT quicker) and a bottle of Noodler's Old Manhattan (which is super black but that might be partly because of its tendency to spread on the page, thus causing something of an optical illusion).

[I-am-not-really-here]

No sheen like the void kitty.  I like the ink and might have a bottle laying around here as part of  a quasi-CMYK permanent ink kit.  Or not.  The drying on the nib part suggests I'd be less interested in finding out.  Thanks for the review!

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, I-am-not-really-here said:

No sheen like the void kitty.

 

1 hour ago, I-am-not-really-here said:

I like the ink and might have a bottle laying around here as part of  a quasi-CMYK permanent ink kit.  Or not.  The drying on the nib part suggests I'd be less interested in finding out.

It may be that in a less-arid environment, drying on the nib isn't a problem.

 

1 hour ago, I-am-not-really-here said:

Thanks for the review!

You're most welcome!

[Penguincollector]

Thanks for the review! I see a crow flying out from behind a cloudy pink sunset. 

[LizEF]

34 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

Thanks for the review!

You're most welcome!

 

35 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

I see a crow flying out from behind a cloudy pink sunset. 

Fabulous eye!  I see it now.  Thanks!

[inkstainedruth]

Funny, but when I looked at the image again just now, I saw a pale pink swan with a black beak staring into the pink cloudy sunset (although admittedly the "sunset" looked more like a sponge....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[LizEF]

18 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Funny, but when I looked at the image again just now, I saw a pale pink swan with a black beak staring into the pink cloudy sunset (although admittedly the "sunset" looked more like a sponge....

Ink reviewer by day, Rorschach tester by night...

[inkstainedruth]

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[InesF]

Aaaarrrhhhh!, the void test! 

 

I have trust in the forum members. Here's my secret: "It's black!"  

 

Thank you @LizEF for continuing testing black inks, for implanting a soul into our magical party members and for this exciting microscopy landscape image that shows the true nature of this black ink. 

It isn't black! 

 

But, aaahhh, the label says "black" - everything said.  

[Lithium466]

17 hours ago, LizEF said:

  You're most welcome.  Klaw is gowling however, and expects you to explicitly exclude him from the set described as "yuck"!

Shame on me! But that's because I didn't see him, right, right?!