J Herbin Rose tendresse (Tenderness pink)

[yazeh]

J Herbin Rose tendresse (Tenderness pink)

 

According to the J Herbn website : “Rose tendresse (Tenderness pink): this is the rose of love and the flowers of the same name and symbol of love. The color represents the feeling of love and also tenderness shared by 2 lovers.”  What a load of  

 

Disclaimer: It's hard to be impartial when I viscerally dislike this ink, both the colour and its behaviour.  I have tried to be as factual as possible. 

 

I love roses, especially pink ones. But this ink reminds me of Pepto-Bismal. It is low on lubrication, has no water resistance, and the writing experience will Lamy Safari (it was decent with M/B nibs) and Pilot F3A was dismal. However, the Hongdian M2 liked it, I didn't. However, I couldn't touch the pens filled with this ink and was relieved to empty them  

 

I think I have to mix it with some of my darker Herbins to give it more lubrication and change the colour as fast as possible  

 

If you like this shade of pink, you would need a wet pen and smooth buttery nib. Ink is legible despite the scans.

 

 

Chroma:

 

 

 

Writing Samples:

I’m glad I used a wet/smooth Hongdian M2 and not the usual Kakuno nib. 

The UEF is a reverse Hongdian Ef nib. The First Ef is Hongdian, and then Lamy. You can see the stark difference between the two EF nibs and their dry times.  It’s pleasant in the first and unpleasant in the Lamy. Ink is legible despite the scan.

 

 

Photo: 

Photos are taken at a northern light window. It's interesting how the photo doesn't capture Midori's cream paper. 

 

I'm not sure if I took this photo on a sunny day or under the artificial light. 

 

Comparison:

 

Water test:

Left side (10 seconds under running water. After 24 hours). 

Kitty's heart was washed away with all this tender love 😛 

 

Art Work:

The colour was a creative killer for me. I tried my best, but well you can't win them all.  

 

Rapture

Paper is a Talens pocket book. 

inks:

Colorverse Methuselah Grove used with a fude nib.

J Herbin Rose Tendresse. The green I believe is Octopus Write and Draw Green Tiger.

 

Zoo 

Part of yearlong Inktober challenge. It's a bit obscure, but I put the cage on the glasses, you can interpret it however you want

Paper is an A4 Strathmore for sketching, so not for ink use. To give you an idea of size  it is 10 times the size of the paper above. 

Inks used: Diamine Master of Puppets

Kala Nostalgia Gemstone Onyx (Brown grey ink)

and J Herbin Rose tendresse

 

and finally the Tiger cub and rose

The green ink is Octopus Write & Draw Green Tiger. 

Paper is Talens pocket book. 

 

·      Pens used: Hongdian M2 EF (reverse and normal), Lamy (EF/F/M/B/ Stub 1.1), Pilot F3A

·      What I liked: I’m still thinking about this one, emptying the pens.

·      What I did not like: Everything....

·       What some might not like: Lack of lubrication, colour?

·      Shading: A bit with M/B/ 1.1 nib

·      Ghosting: Yes, on cheap paper. 

·      Bleed through: Yes, on cheap paper.

·      Flow Rate: Wet

·      Lubrication: Dismal with Lamy.  M/B nibs were OK. Hongdian Ok. 

·      Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. 

·      Start-up:  Ok with Hongdian M2 Don’t bring pink roses for Lamy Safari, match made in hell.  

·      Saturation:  Ugh!

·      Shading Potential: It depends on the paper.  

·      Sheen: No. 

·      Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: A bit with semi-flex. 

·      Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

·      Staining (pen): No. 

·      Clogging: Did not notice.

·      Cleaning: Very easy.

·      Water resistance: Non-existent. 

·      Availability:  10ml, 30 ml bottles, cartridges. 

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

 

[LizEF]

43 minutes ago, yazeh said:

What a load of  

You romantic, you!  This color is somehow both pastel-ish and too bright.  I'm not sure how they pulled it off.  It's bright, but doesn't qualify as a "hot pink" (in my book).  It's kinda pale and pink - which ought to be pastel - and yet, it's not fully pastel.  It's a strange color that doesn't quite fit and though I like a lot of pinks, I don't really like this one.

 

43 minutes ago, yazeh said:

But this ink reminds me of Pepto-Bismal.

I think Pepto is actually pastel, which might make it better than this ink...

 

43 minutes ago, yazeh said:

It is low on lubrication, has no water resistance, and the writing experience will Lamy Safari (it was decent with M/B nibs) and Pilot F3A was dismal.

Staaaahp!  You sold me at "Pepto"! (Not.)  (You're splitting my sides here with all the laughter.)

 

Well, that chroma is uninspiring.  The writing samples are relieving my upset stomach...  I especially like the quote on Hammermill.  Alas, even Iroful can't save this ink.

 

Oh, hooray!  The (drawing on the) swatch card shows the tenderness we've been missing!   But then, the tragedy!  Poor Mousey, left all alone after a terrible flood washes Kitty away!  But wait!  Kitty has returned to receive Mousey's rose.  What a relief!

 

Your "zoo" drawing is most thought provoking!

 

ETA: Oops, missed Tigger!  I forsee Mousey taking a leap as Tigger shreds that rose in play!

 

Thanks, @yazeh, for enduring this ink so we don't have to!

[LizEF]

46 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I was viewing the FPGeeks version while commenting on this and so only now discovered that the Hammermill image isn't showing over here.  FYI.

[lapis]

Thanks from me, too. I never liked this ink. I have it, and all of the other of Herb's inks as well. I like the smell of roses, I like the colour of them too, but only deep and/or bright red roses. White'll do, too. But this is somewhere in between a pink (which I don't like), or magenta (which I don't mind). The best part of it all is your ascertainment that here, yes, we have something to do with "a load of..."

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

I was viewing the FPGeeks version while commenting on this and so only now discovered that the Hammermill image isn't showing over here.  FYI.

Thanks! Corrected

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

You romantic, you! 

This is anti-romantic colour. Romeo, Romeo, where art thou, so I can break this bottle of ink on your head  

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

This color is somehow both pastel-ish and too bright.  I'm not sure how they pulled it off.  It's bright, but doesn't qualify as a "hot pink" (in my book).  It's kinda pale and pink - which ought to be pastel - and yet, it's not fully pastel.  It's a strange color that doesn't quite fit and though I like a lot of pinks, I don't really like this one.

It has  a bit of icky fluorescent pink y colour. It might be ok on candy floss or on flowers, but as ink, no siree

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

I think Pepto is actually pastel, which might make it better than this ink...

I don't want to write with an ink, which reminds me of stomach ache or worse 

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Staaaahp!  You sold me at "Pepto"! (Not.)  (You're splitting my sides here with all the laughter.)

Aren't these the best review. We need so much humour these days. Take it you tenderness rose  

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Well, that chroma is uninspiring.  The writing samples are relieving my upset stomach...  I especially like the quote on Hammermill.  Alas, even Iroful can't save this ink.

No it can't. 

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

Oh, hooray!  The (drawing on the) swatch card shows the tenderness we've been missing!   But then, the tragedy!  Poor Mousey, left all alone after a terrible flood washes Kitty away!  But wait!  Kitty has returned to receive Mousey's rose.  What a relief!

And love prevails, despite bad poetry and inks 😛 

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Your "zoo" drawing is most thought provoking!

Thanks!

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

ETA: Oops, missed Tigger!  I forsee Mousey taking a leap as Tigger shreds that rose in play!

That's to be seen  

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Thanks, @yazeh, for enduring this ink so we don't have to!

Well some endure cartridges, some bad bottles  

[LizEF]

38 minutes ago, yazeh said:

This is anti-romantic colour. Romeo, Romeo, where art thou, so I can break this bottle of ink on your head

 

38 minutes ago, yazeh said:

It has  a bit of icky fluorescent pink y colour. It might be ok on candy floss or on flowers, but as ink, no siree

Oh, cotton candy.  Yep.  That's exactly right.

 

40 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Aren't these the best review. We need so much humour these days. Take it you tenderness rose  

Indeed!

 

40 minutes ago, yazeh said:

And love prevails, despite bad poetry and inks 😛 

 

40 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Well some endure cartridges, some bad bottles  

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, lapis said:

Thanks from me, too.

 

2 hours ago, lapis said:

 

I never liked this ink. I have it, and all of the other of Herb's inks as well. I like the smell of roses, I like the colour of them too, but only deep and/or bright red roses. White'll do, too. But this is somewhere in between a pink (which I don't like), or magenta (which I don't mind).

Same here Though I have thing for good old antique roses, like the Alba roses. As long as its scented, I can pretend I'm colour blind  

2 hours ago, lapis said:

 

The best part of it all is your ascertainment that here, yes, we have something to do with "a load of..."

 As @lapis retord to Goethe: "Das Leben ist viel zu kurz, um schlechte Tinte zu benutzen."  Hope Chatgpt translated correctly..

[lapis]

No, "life is too short to eat bad roses".

[inkstainedruth]

@yazeh I'm with you on disliking this ink.  For me, it wasn't so much that it looked like Pepto-Bismal as that it had a nasty neon purple undertone to it.  Glad I only got a sample of it.  

It was really disappointing -- especially since there are some J Herbin inks that I love (I'd never want to be without Eclat de Saphir, because it behaves so well in my 61s, which are all capillary fillers).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

21 minutes ago, lapis said:

No, "life is too short to eat bad roses".

[yazeh]

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

@yazeh I'm with you on disliking this ink.  For me, it wasn't so much that it looked like Pepto-Bismal as that it had a nasty neon purple undertone to it.

You nailed it. It's that surprising neon undertone. It's like the awful Noodler's Rachmaninov, minus the scent and difficulty to clean  

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

 

 Glad I only got a sample of it.  

I got a 10 ml bottle only  

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

It was really disappointing --

I was surprised too

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

 

especially since there are some J Herbin inks that I love (I'd never want to be without Eclat de Saphir, because it behaves so well in my 61s, which are all capillary fillers).

I think my favourites are a few of the Paris series, Vert de gris, Vert Empire...

[inkstainedruth]

Thanks for the heads up on Rachmaninov -- I don't have any of the Noodler's "Russian authors" series inks.

Yeah, I like Vert Empire -- it was the first green ink I ever tried that wasn't too bright and "in your face".

Ruth Morisson aka inkstainedruth

[Sailor Kenshin]

This is cracking me up.  🤣

 

I can assure you that I would never have bought this ink if I read the JH blurb.   But I have it (along with Rusty Anchor) and like it.

 

So there!  😹

 

Nice half-illos.  The Case of the Vanishing Kitteh, by Agatha Kitty?

 

Well-done review, as usual, @yazeh.  Thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming, even when you hate the ink. 

[inkstainedruth]

26 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

The Case of the Vanishing Kitteh, by Agatha Kitty?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

3 hours ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

This is cracking me up.  🤣

 

3 hours ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

I can assure you that I would never have bought this ink if I read the JH blurb.   But I have it (along with Rusty Anchor) and like it.

 

So there!  😹

What do you like about it? I'm curious

3 hours ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

Nice half-illos.  The Case of the Vanishing Kitteh, by Agatha Kitty?

What @inkstainedruth said

3 hours ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

Well-done review, as usual, @yazeh.  Thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming, even when you hate the ink. 

Thanks. I will. I enjoyed the repartee

 

[LizEF]

2 hours ago, yazeh said:

What do you like about it? I'm curious

[yazeh]

@LizEFI truly am curious. Maybe she can make me see beyond my experience.  I tried mixing half a convertor in the Hongdian M2 with a bottle of "remains of Herbin". It turned into a light Violet pensée. Very yucky.

[Sailor Kenshin]

@yazeh, I do like the color.  If I'm in a pink mood, since this is very different from the (few!) other pinks in my collection: 5280 Flamingo, and, uhhh, well, InkVent Pink Ice.  It's frothy, delicate, and springlike.

[yazeh]

6 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

@yazeh, I do like the color.  If I'm in a pink mood, since this is very different from the (few!) other pinks in my collection: 5280 Flamingo, and, uhhh, well, InkVent Pink Ice.  It's frothy, delicate, and springlike.

Thanks. Much appreciated. Vive la difference! I'm assuming you've found the right pen for it?