Platinum Century 3776 - Flow issues and Various inks

[ThePenLover]

Hey there guys , so as the title suggests i open this thread cause i have came to notice , these months ....

 

I have my platinum century 3776 in Broad , and i figured out that it simply dosen't like most inks !

Don't get me wrong it flows , but you have the occasional hard start ( minimal ) and  it feels like it dosen't really flow wet ( i know platinums are more pencil like )

Also the only ink from my collection that seems to flow the proper way according to my taste in my Noodler's blue  American Eel - lubricated . its the only ink that i think gives life to this particular pen .

I was schocked when i saw that Parker Quink didn't worked at all ! First pen that the quink had a very bad flow ?!

 

I would appreciate your experiences and maybe comments ! thanks !

[davisgt]

I've always had good luck with Waterman and Iroshizuku inks in my pens. I started off with Carbon Black in the Platinum President with the EF nib, and it gummed up the feed and the nib. I cleaned everything and started using Waterman Black, and I haven't had any trouble since.  That pen does start hard if I haven't used it for a week or so. 

[senzen]

I would give it a thorough cleaning, preferably with a dedicated pen flush; if that fails, maybe an ultrasonic cleaner and as a last resort, flush the tines with a .3 mm brass sheet.

[Lithium466]

The 3776 have long feeds and they take a while to saturate, depending on how you fill them. Sometimes the nib can move just a little over the feed, and then you get hard starts.

 

I will add a +1 to @senzen advice. My 3776 have generally good flow, and can accommodate various inks without too much fuss.

[Runnin_Ute]

Mine is almost always inked with Diamine Merlot and doesn't always get used every day and never a hard start problem.  It's also a B nib.

 

One ink that I hated in it? Iroshizuku Kon Peki. And it is much wetter than Merlot. 

[ThePenLover]

12 hours ago, Lithium466 said:

The 3776 have long feeds and they take a while to saturate, depending on how you fill them. Sometimes the nib can move just a little over the feed, and then you get hard starts.

 

I will add a +1 to @senzen advice. My 3776 have generally good flow, and can accommodate various inks without too much fuss.

that comment was perfectly on point , i could tell right from the beggining ! .The dry feeling and the occasional Minimal hard starts , are 95% due to the combination : long feed - ink ( the most important ) - paper .

Noodlers blue eel is lubricated and it seems it runs down the feed faster so the 3776 feels wetter and more responsive

The first ink that i used with the pen was the pilot namiki black ( classic with UFO shape like bottle ) .

That was the ink that gave me the first problem with the long feed that 3776 has .

 

I would appreciate a comment on the above, with possible solutions for the long feed design and also i wanted to ask two questions :

1. i dont know how flushing the tines would help with the long feed , i really dont want to << repair >> the gold nib as it seems smooth and on point

2. And also  , what do you mean by saying << Sometimes the nib can move just a little over the feed, and then you get hard starts.>> and what would be a solution .

 

Thanks !

[Lithium466]

1. The long feed isn't a problem, it just takes longer when you insert a cartridge for the ink to reach the nib, etc, compared to for ex a Sailor pen.

2. Check that the nib is properly positioned over the feed. Normally that shouldn't be a problem, but we never know.

 

Flossing the tines, to ensure there is a proper gap, sometimes they are a bit too tight from factory. There could also be too much space, but that's a rarer occurrence.

Then of course it's also possible that your nib is suffering from a baby bottom issue.

[ThePenLover]

56 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

1. The long feed isn't a problem, it just takes longer when you insert a cartridge for the ink to reach the nib, etc, compared to for ex a Sailor pen.

2. Check that the nib is properly positioned over the feed. Normally that shouldn't be a problem, but we never know.

 

Flossing the tines, to ensure there is a proper gap, sometimes they are a bit too tight from factory. There could also be too much space, but that's a rarer occurrence.

Then of course it's also possible that your nib is suffering from a baby bottom issue.

I suppose that by << the feed is positioned properly you means it should be straight and with no space between the nib and the feed .

 

Also , baby's bottom on a brand new 180 dollar platinum gold nib pen right out of the factory ? hmm . i wonder if that should be even considerable ...

[Sailor Kenshin]

Quink Black can be iffy in any pen, let alone a 3776.

[Dillo]

I've had a lot of trouble with Quink black and flow. It's a very odd ink in that respect. I've never had any trouble with my other inks and I have a lot of pens with long feeds including Platinums and Nakayas. My longest feeds are in one of my newest pens, and they work the best with some inks that just don't flow in my other pens, so I have those pens inked with very finicky inks. Long feeds are not an issue at all in general. In my Platinums I use Diamine, Pelikan, Montblanc, Aurora, Platinum, and other inks and they all work well.

 

I would clean out the pen to remove any manufacturing oils from the feed and nib. These sometimes prevent you from having good flow out of the box. I would also use an ink other than Quink Black. That ink can be quite finicky. You can use the Quink Black in the pens that can use it and try out other inks instead.