Orange Ink Choice?

[LandyVlad]

I'm sure there was a thread comparing orange inks, but I can't find it.

 

I'm looking for a nice orange ink for use in <M> or <F> nib fountain pen.

I have a TWSBi (may get another) and a few vintage Parker 51's.

 

I had loaded up a cart with samples but that got quite expensive, quite quickly.

SO looking at what I could find online (and noting that colour variation between cameras, computer monitors etc makes true colour impossible to really judge) I have found a couple which I might like.

 

These are:

• Pilot Iroshizuku Yu-Yake   link
• Pelikan Edelstein Mandarin Orange  link

 

The Pelikan look as if it might be the stronger of the two, and the Pilot Iroshizuku more 'washed out'?

 

I'd be interested to hear of experiences with these inks in particular or other orange inks as they compare,

perhaps

 

Diplomat Orange

Noodler's Southwest Sunset 

Kaweco Sunrise Orange

TWSBI 1791 Tangerine

 

 

Thanks.

[Uncial]

Go buy Oranges of Lake Hamana and thank me later.

 

Yu Yake is a nice ink but very red-pink leaning. The Edelstein has been reformulated and the newer version isnt bad at all (the old version was an almost unusable highlighter ink). It's a very bright orange.

[kestrel]

Diamine Orange.  Bright, well-behaved.

 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, LandyVlad said:

I'm sure there was a thread comparing orange inks, but I can't find it.

 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, Uncial said:

Go buy Oranges of Lake Hamana and thank me later.

I had to search it. This is by Sailor, for Bungubox. Review:

 

1 hour ago, LandyVlad said:

Noodler's Southwest Sunset 

It never dries, except on absorbent paper.

 

I don't have experience with the other named inks. If I were going to buy a bright orange, I'd get Akkerman Oranje Boven.

 

Don't forget the ink review index here, where you can see what reviewers have said about these inks.  Also, Ink Swatch is a great tool for finding similar inks, and reviews (click / tap the swatch card to see links to reviews): Pelikan Edelstein Mandarin and Pilot Iroshizuku Yu-yake.

 

Finally, if I had to choose based on nothing but the names and online images, I'd choose Sailor because I think they may well have the best ink makers in the world.

[LandyVlad]

Thanks all.

 

Now I just need to find a good place to buy Sailor bungbox like that one. (or at least see the price)

I'm in Australia but happy to buy online if postage not a killer.

 

The review mentions that Sailor Shikiori - Kin-Mokusei is very similar (though not identical) and much cheaper and I can get that locally

Edited Monday at 04:47 AM by LandyVlad

[Penguincollector]

  I was about to recommend Kin- Mokusei. It’s a lovely ink, and is wonder on papers like Iroful. I also like KWZ Orange, but I don’t know if it’s easy to find. Herbin Orange Indien is wonderful in a wet pen. 

[Lithium466]

Kin Mokusei is very pleasant. In shading orange, there's also Diamine blaze orange. 

[manolo]

Diamine Pumpkin.

I always keep a pen filled with this ink since I bought it, two years ago.

Cheap, well behaved, and easy to read.

[LandyVlad]

Thanks.  

As it's for a fountain pen which will be for writing rather than art  readability is key.

[LandyVlad]

I found these

 

 

 

Not decisive but perhaps an edge to the Pumpkin.

 

also

the review states the photos don't show it to its full brightness so hard to judge but from the small sample in the second thread - looks quite nice.


Hmmmmmm.

[LandyVlad]

Oh and also

writing samples are quite useful.  Based on those I think Pumpkin has the edge for what I want -a "first" orange ink.

 

Thank you everyone!

[Dillo]

On 12/8/2024 at 9:09 PM, kestrel said:

Diamine Orange.  Bright, well-behaved.

 

 

I avoid Diamine Orange for a few reasons. It is not really that well behaved. As you continue using it, it will start having some issues as the Allura Red dye in the ink reacts with the air and degrades. You will see a build up of bright colored crystals around the nib and feed, and this is not water soluble. As the ink ages, you will also see this precipitate develop on the bottle and settle to the bottom of the bottle. It causes gold nibs to rainbow and causes steel nibs to corrode. I had cases where steel nibs became severely pitted after using this ink (and also Pelikan Brilliant Red and Diamine Hope Pink which both also contain the Allura red dye).

 

Instead, I recommend Montblanc Manganese Orange. It does not contain the Allura Red dye and I've used it in many steel and gold nibbed pens without any issues and without any precipitates forming.

 

I don't have issues with many other Diamine inks, but I avoid the orange specifically for this reasons. I have not done extensive analysis on many of their other pink, red, or orange inks to see what dyes they use, but I can confirm through analysis that Pelikan Brilliant Red, Diamine Orange, and Diamine Hope Pink contain this dye and all three of them have had this problem in my testing. It develops after some time of use. The precipitate is really difficult to clean out of pens because it has limited water solubility