J Herbin - Lie de Thé

[yazeh]

J Herbin Lie de thé

Lie in French is the residue, lees or dregs deposited in teapots. I'm hoping our tea drinking members can give us the correct term  

 

This ink brings me fond memories. Many years ago, I scrubbed the tea stains of my mother's teapot, thinking it would please her. She wasn't. I'd removed the secret to her great tea, she informed. Lesson learned

 

Ink is a lovely brown shading ink with the most amazing chroma.

 

Dry times are longer than usual but can be mitigated with finer nibs. I enjoyed using this ink for sketching. The ink looks amazing on Iroful paper, it shades from dark gold/ sepia to dark brown. 

Ink has decent water resistance and lower than average lubrication. 

 

Chroma:

 

 

 

Writing Samples:

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Photo:

 

Comparison:

Water test:

Left side 10 seconds under running water. 

I did two by mistake. I thought I post them both, note the difference

 

Art Work:

Mousey is trying to read the Cat's fortune in a cup of tea 

J Herbin Lie de Thé

R&K Königsblau

Noodler's Lexington Gray

 

Paper is Talens mixed media sketchbook.

 

 

 

·      Pens used: Pilot F3A (EF/semiflex), Lamy (EF/F/M/B/ Stub 1.1),

·      What I liked: Colour. Sketching. And wiping the nib in a tissue.

·      What I did not like: Nothing much. 

·       What some might not like: Long dry times.

·      Shading: Yes. 

·      Ghosting: Depends on nib/ pen/ nib size. 

·      Bleed through: Same as above. 

·      Flow Rate: Average.

·      Lubrication: Slightly below average. 

·      Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. 

·      Start-up:  Ok

·      Saturation: Medium. 

·      Shading Potential: Very good. 

·      Sheen: No. 

·      Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: A bit with wet pens on cheap copy paper. 

·      Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

·      Staining (pen): No. 

·      Clogging: Did not notice.

·      Cleaning: Easy

·      Water resistance: Quite good. 

·      Availability: 10/30/ 100 ml bottles, cartridges. 

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

 

[inkstainedruth]

Tried this ink fairly early on.  Didn't really care for the color (a little too yellow/sepia leaning for my taste) but digging out my old test of of it and am now rethinking my opinion of the color.  I do recall it being relatively well behaved.

Thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.  I may give this ink another chance at some point....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[LizEF]

Fun story about your mom's teapot.  Very cool chroma.  Fun tea quotes (I'm guessing those are a bunch of Englishmen - they do seem rather obsessed with their tea).  Even more fun swatch card sketches!

 

Nice gradation of swatch card colors.  I like this ink.  I also like some of the more muted browns like Monteverde Moonstone and Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-guri.  Mostly, I just like brown (though I've mostly lost my taste for reddish browns).

 

Better water resistance than I would have assumed.  And double water test! Love the drawing.  No doubt kitty has good fortunes in that teacup, what with 9 lives...

 

Thanks, @yazeh, for a fun review of a very nice ink!

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, inkstainedruth said:

Tried this ink fairly early on.  Didn't really care for the color (a little too yellow/sepia leaning for my taste) but digging out my old test of of it and am now rethinking my opinion of the color.  I do recall it being relatively well behaved.

I have noticed that with time my appreciation of inks, changes. What I found fantastic then, is not necessarily what I like now and vice versa . 

1 hour ago, inkstainedruth said:

Thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

A pleasure!

1 hour ago, inkstainedruth said:

 I may give this ink another chance at some point....

Thankfully you can get it in 10 ml bottles. So that should be fine with Mr. Hubby

[yazeh]

46 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Fun story about your mom's teapot.  Very cool chroma.  Fun tea quotes (I'm guessing those are a bunch of Englishmen - they do seem rather obsessed with their tea).  Even more fun swatch card sketches!

Yep, Mum was a great tea drinker (not teabags). English are not the only ones obsessed with tea. Besides those who produce it, there are Russians too. I'm sure you've had tea Russian style from the samovar, where they dilute the strength of tea, to the drinker's liking  Glad you enjoyed the swatches 🙏

46 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Nice gradation of swatch card colors.  I like this ink.  I also like some of the more muted browns like Monteverde Moonstone and Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-guri.  Mostly, I just like brown (though I've mostly lost my taste for reddish browns).

Same here. Great minds  

46 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Better water resistance than I would have assumed.  And double water test! Love the drawing.  No doubt kitty has good fortunes in that teacup, what with 9 lives...

 

No doubt! Anyway, this time it's an alter-ego of professor Eenees ( @InesF) a priestess of some sort who was trying to read into future with scientific-ish method, that got doused to spear cat & mouse 

46 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Thanks, @yazeh, for a fun review of a very nice ink!

A pleasure!

[LizEF]

14 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I'm sure you've had tea Russian style from the samovar, where they dilute the strength of tea, to the drinker's liking

Seen it, yes, but I don't drink tea, so I've never had it.  (And yes, Russians are also big on chai - I roll my eyes when fancy US places act like "chai tea" is anything other than "tea tea"....)

 

16 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Anyway, this time it's an alter-ego of professor Eenees ( @InesF) a priestess of some sort who was trying to read into future with scientific-ish method, that got doused to spear cat & mouse 

Let's hope the professor appreciates your method of sparing both mouse and kitty!

[Sailor Kenshin]

I have this ink and never suspected!  The wild chroma, and its somewhat water resistance.  I use it now and again, too.  Headsmack!

 

It's interesting that, to me, the photos are more legible than the scans.  And I only seem to drink tea in cold weather.  I love the drawings, as always…and may have to try LDT for sketches….big-eyed kitteh there.  😸

 

@yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming! 

 

(….Cannot no longer multitask…cannot even today type….)

[Mr.Rene]

Greetings!

Writing sampler looks like old text or old letter.....I love the ink color...

Regards.

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, LizEF said:

Seen it, yes, but I don't drink tea, so I've never had it.  (And yes, Russians are also big on chai - I roll my eyes when fancy US places act like "chai tea" is anything other than "tea tea"....)

Well, you know how trends are. In some places it's fashionable to have grape popsicles instead of tea 

1 hour ago, LizEF said:

 

Let's hope the professor appreciates your method of sparing both mouse and kitty!

Well, her alter-ego in another "mirror" universe, decided to get wet, instead of the cat.  

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

I have this ink and never suspected!  The wild chroma, and its somewhat water resistance.  I use it now and again, too.  Headsmack!

Now if we know how many fun inks we have hidden in the corners

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

It's interesting that, to me, the photos are more legible than the scans.

The scan often exaggerates the shading and colours, making it harsher to read

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 And I only seem to drink tea in cold weather.

I knew of people who drank tea in the heat of the summer

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 I love the drawings, as always…and may have to try LDT for sketches….big-eyed kitteh there.  😸

Thanks! Sorry what does LDT stand for? 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

@yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming! 

I'll do my best. I'm veering towards greens soon

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 

(….Cannot no longer multitask…cannot even today type….)

Back to writing

[Mercian]

32 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Thanks! Sorry what does LDT stand for? 

 

Lie de Thé, no?

 

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

Fun tea quotes (I'm guessing those are a bunch of Englishmen - they do seem rather obsessed with their tea)

 

Just want to thank LizEF for typing ↑ that.
It made me check how many different types of tea I have chez moi.
That number is only six - but I also have two 'herbal infusions' about which I had forgotten.
I am now enjoying a cup of one of those - a 'vanilla chai' that has no actual tea in it, but does contain cinnamon, ginger, licorice, fennel, cardamom, and vanilla.

😊

[inkstainedruth]

For some reason I'm now thinking of some old 1960s spy movie (might have been a parody of the James Bond franchise, but can't remember much else) where the British girl says to the American agent something like "Tea bags?  Nasty American custom!"

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Mercian]

1 minute ago, inkstainedruth said:

For some reason I'm now thinking of some old 1960s spy movie (might have been a parody of the James Bond franchise, but can't remember much else) where the British girl says to the American agent something like "Tea bags?  Nasty American custom!"

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

😁

Just don't start asking Brits which should go into the cup first, the tea, or the milk...

[yazeh]

29 minutes ago, Mercian said:

 

Lie de Thé, no?

Oh, my! I must have been really tired. French have an expression, which is not very polite

29 minutes ago, Mercian said:

 

 

Just want to thank LizEF for typing ↑ that.
It made me check how many different types of tea I have chez moi.
That number is only six - but I also have two 'herbal infusions' about which I had forgotten.
I am now enjoying a cup of one of those - a 'vanilla chai' that has no actual tea in it, but does contain cinnamon, ginger, licorice, fennel, cardamom, and vanilla.

😊

I used to be a tea snob. There was this French tea store, which had some 400 types of tea. Plus chocolate teas and a menu with tea infused meals  I discovered a number of teas  Though, my mother was not impressed, she like her Darjeeling the way it was. No milk, no sugar, dark with tea leaves swimming in it

[yazeh]

20 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

For some reason I'm now thinking of some old 1960s spy movie (might have been a parody of the James Bond franchise, but can't remember much else) where the British girl says to the American agent something like "Tea bags?  Nasty American custom!"

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

18 minutes ago, Mercian said:

 

😁

Just don't start asking Brits which should go into the cup first, the tea, or the milk...

Milk? You put milk in your tea? Quelle horreur, as @inkstainedruth said, what a nasty habit 

And thus the tea wars started. 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

In some places it's fashionable to have grape popsicles instead of tea 

Yes, my freezer is the height of fashion!

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Well, her alter-ego in another "mirror" universe, decided to get wet, instead of the cat.  

[Mercian]

1 minute ago, yazeh said:

Milk? You put milk in your tea? Quelle horreur, as @inkstainedruth said, what a nasty habit 

And thus the tea wars started. 

 

Well we have Kazakhstan on our side, and quite a few people in India too.

 

And on your side you only have Everyone Else in the Whole World, so our victory in this argument is undoubtedly, er, 'certain'...

 

 

5 minutes ago, yazeh said:

French have an expression, which is not very polite

 

They probably picked it up from holidaying Brits.
We - infamously - are wont to 'cuss enough to strip the paint off Heaven's gate'

[Mercian]

8 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Though, my mother was not impressed, she like her Darjeeling the way it was. No milk, no sugar, dark with tea leaves swimming in it

 

I do admit to being 'with' your mother when it comes to putting milk in to Darjeeling!

[LizEF]

43 minutes ago, Mercian said:

Just want to thank LizEF for typing ↑ that.
It made me check how many different types of tea I have chez moi.
That number is only six - but I also have two 'herbal infusions' about which I had forgotten.
I am now enjoying a cup of one of those - a 'vanilla chai' that has no actual tea in it, but does contain cinnamon, ginger, licorice, fennel, cardamom, and vanilla.

😊

  You're most welcome!  Please enjoy your чай без чая (tea without tea).