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Barock Umbra

 

Barock inks are a reissue of East German brand, which went kaput in 2011 and was revived by Octopus. As of 2024 there a 6 colours. 

The story of the brand goes back to 1826, when the company August Leonhardi was founded. August Leonhardi became famous for his patented, legendary Alizarin inks. These were the first inks in the world that could be called document proof. 

You can read more about it here: 

https://www.octopus-office.de/shop/en/barock/

 

This is a complex, brown/green wet, with below average lubrication. I enjoyed it most with M nib on Iroful/Tomoe River 68 gsm and with Pilot F3A with a subtle Ef semi-flex nib. The wetter the nib the darker it becomes. It will be best with a soft nib. I wouldn’t use it in a Kakuno with Ef nib. Ink has no water resistance.

 

This has been a personal favorite and I tried to keep it in my pens as long as possible. 

 

It has one of those complex chromas

 

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Writing Samples:

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Photo:

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Comparison:

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Water test:

Left side 10 seconds under running water. As you can the shadow of Mr. Cat (mouse) was washed away :D 

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Art Work:

This was part of the inktober 2024 challenge: Uncharted or Chat-man (pronounce shaman :D ) Chat is cat in French. 

The idea was that with shamanic music one's psyche can go to unchartered territories :) 

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Another inktober challenge 2024 prompt: Roam

Here is a mixture of three inks with different dilutions :)

 

Diamine x Niche pens Alexandrite,

Barock Umbra

Noodler's Lexington Gray

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·      Pens used: Pilot F3A, Lamy (EF/F/M/B/ Stub 1.1) 

·      What I liked: Earthy colour. Drawing/sketching with. 

·      What I did not like: Nothing much, but if I want to nitpick, lack of waterproofness and being a bit low on lubrication. 

·       What might some not like: Lack of lubrication maybe?

·      Shading: Yes. 

·      Ghosting: Yes, on cheap paper. 

·      Bleed through: Yes, on cheap paper.

·      Flow Rate: Wet

·      Lubrication: Below average. 

·      Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. 

·      Start-up:  Ok

·      Saturation:  Medium/dark

·      Shading Potential: Yes. 

·      Sheen: No. 

·      Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice. 

·      Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

·      Staining (pen): No. 

·      Clogging: Did not notice.

·      Cleaning: Easy

·      Water resistance: Non-existent. 

·      Availability: 30 ml bottles. 

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  :)

 

 

 

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Another interesting chroma! :)

 

"Alizarin" (Liz thinks: "Bob Ross" :D )

 

Below average lubrication: :( (But that's OK, I have non-EF nibs...)

 

Yummy.  Brown with hints of green - my kind of color...  Great shadow quotes (this time I had to go back to read them as I was too busy looking at the ink. :D )  I'm hoping the photos are more correct that the scans.

 

Whoa!!  That combo of swatches makes the Calamus brown look downright brick red!  Nice arrangement there.  So many browns, so little time... :)

 

Oof, poor mousey.  Washed away...  Very cool shaman, though!  Ah yes, and I still like Roam - instantly reminiscent of those 60s movies. :)

 

Thanks for another great review, @yazeh!

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  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

Another interesting chroma! :)

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😊

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

"Alizarin" (Liz thinks: "Bob Ross" :D )

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Or maybe a cheeseburger joint where Makhabesh and Essri go to chill :lticaptd:

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

 

Below average lubrication: :( (But that's OK, I have non-EF nibs...)

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Anything but Kakuno should be more or less fine 😊

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

 

 

Yummy.  Brown with hints of green - my kind of color...  Great shadow quotes (this time I had to go back to read them as I was too busy looking at the ink. :D )  I'm hoping the photos are more correct that the scans.

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I'm not sure, but it's possible I sent you a written sample. The color reminds me of weathered decks :)

 

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

Whoa!!  That combo of swatches makes the Calamus brown look downright brick red!  Nice arrangement there.  So many browns, so little time... :)

 

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Yep. One can see the range of the Browns. Very earthy 😊

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

 

 

Oof, poor mousey.  Washed away...  Very cool shaman, though!  Ah yes, and I still like Roam - instantly reminiscent of those 60s movies. :)

 

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It was more the shadow of the cat

Glad my sketches work😜

  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

Thanks for another great review, @yazeh!

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A pleasure as always 🙏🙏🙏

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  On 10/31/2024 at 5:29 PM, yazeh said:

It was more the shadow of the cat

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But isn't the shadow in the form of our mousey and his umbrella?  That's how it looks to me, anyway...

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  On 10/31/2024 at 5:35 PM, LizEF said:

But isn't the shadow in the form of our mousey and his umbrella?  That's how it looks to me, anyway...

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Yes it is. The mouse within 😜

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FWIW -- and yes, I pointed this out earlier somewhere, but I can't find where it is/was to save time and typing now -- this brand "Barock" shouldn't be confused with the earlier issues of "Barock" inks which came out up to around 1913. At that time there were also 6 inks, although they had "little" to do with the present 6. My originals from 2011 came in 45-ml bottles and were/are listed as follows (no, I never saw a No. 01 here): Basaltgrau 02, Zementgrau 03, Terra di Siena 04, Orientalisch Rot 05, Antikblau 06, and Monacoblau 07

 

Much later (almost a decade later), that name "Barock" was taken over by the company "Octopus" (in Dresden, formerly East Germany). That new company's inks were first (after 1913) available from eBay until their name evolved into "Octopus Fluids". They are now apparently present as "Octopus Concept", or simply "Octopus".

 

As Yazeh pointed out, Octopus' Barock line -- or more correctly their Barock 1910 line -- consists of 6 inks. They are now in 30-ml bottles.

Whew

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  On 10/31/2024 at 10:25 PM, lapis said:

FWIW -- and yes, I pointed this out earlier somewhere, but I can't find where it is/was to save time and typing now -- this brand "Barock" shouldn't be confused with the earlier issues of "Barock" inks which came out up to around 1913. At that time there were also 6 inks, although they had "little" to do with the present 6. My originals from 2011 came in 45-ml bottles and were/are listed as follows (no, I never saw a No. 01 here): Basaltgrau 02, Zementgrau 03, Terra di Siena 04, Orientalisch Rot 05, Antikblau 06, and Monacoblau 07

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Thanks for pointing that out and the names of the original inks :)

  On 10/31/2024 at 10:25 PM, lapis said:

 

Much later (almost a decade later), that name "Barock" was taken over by the company "Octopus" (in Dresden, formerly East Germany). That new company's inks were first (after 1913) available from eBay until their name evolved into "Octopus Fluids". They are now apparently present as "Octopus Concept", or simply "Octopus".

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Thanks for taking the time informing us on the historical. 

  On 10/31/2024 at 10:25 PM, lapis said:
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They can also be bought in USA and Canada from many retailers in Europe :)

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Not only the brightest light, but also the @yazeh water test eats away the darkest (mouse) shadow! ;) :lol:

 

Thank you, @yazeh, for this ink review, for the inspiring quotes, for keeping cat safe, for the shaman cross-reference and for sharing your Inktober drawings with us! Such a pleasure to discover, step by step, mouse-click by mouse-click, your illustrated ink reviews. :thumbup:

 

These Barock inks are comparably easy to get from European online stores, but not from B&M stores. I hesitated to dive in but will consider buying a full set in near future (when I manage to organize more ink storage, @LizEF ;) ).

 

The Umbra ink has a similar hue to R&K Sepia but is a bit more pale and leaning more towards green with your M, B and 1.1 stub nibs. That's interesting, as Sepia does similar things when either diluted or written very dry (towards the last traces of the almost empty pen). 🧑‍⚕️

 

Looking forward to your next illustrated ink review!

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  On 11/1/2024 at 8:23 AM, InesF said:

Not only the brightest light, but also the @yazeh water test eats away the darkest (mouse) shadow! ;) :lol:

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:D 

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:23 AM, InesF said:

 

Thank you, @yazeh, for this ink review, for the inspiring quotes, for keeping cat safe, for the shaman cross-reference and for sharing your Inktober drawings with us! Such a pleasure to discover, step by step, mouse-click by mouse-click, your illustrated ink reviews. :thumbup:

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Glad the drawings and inky explorations were enjoyable :)

 

I do my best you keep the cat safe. But you know cats play with fire/ water. Yesterday, it was Halloween. And my cat decided to go for a stroll, just before the trick or treating started. (That is when kids dressed in weird/ scary costumes go from door to door to beg for candy :D ) She had one of these bird collars that made her look like a cross between cat and a Frilled Lizard, so she a perfect Halloween costume. But she couldn't get back assuringly because of the traffic of the kids. In the end she appeared two hours later, with a bag sweets/ treats  :D 
 

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:23 AM, InesF said:

 

These Barock inks are comparably easy to get from European online stores, but not from B&M stores. I hesitated to dive in but will consider buying a full set in near future (when I manage to organize more ink storage, @LizEF ;) ).

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You have to make it cat proof, i.e. if you have a cat and if it has Icarus leanings like @LizEF Smoke 🐱:D 

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:23 AM, InesF said:

 

The Umbra ink has a similar hue to R&K Sepia but is a bit more pale and leaning more towards green with your M, B and 1.1 stub nibs. That's interesting, as Sepia does similar things when either diluted or written very dry (towards the last traces of the almost empty pen). 🧑‍⚕️

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Good to know :)

  On 11/1/2024 at 8:23 AM, InesF said:

 

Looking forward to your next illustrated ink review!

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Me too :) 

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  On 11/1/2024 at 8:55 AM, LizEF said:

:thumbup: Resistance is futile. :lol:

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Recently I was watching Picard, and the Borg incantation  . Then I had this thought if there was a glitch / virus in the Borg programming and they would speak with Picard/ Loctus' ancestral language, i.e. French. No one would take them seriously. Ve aRe Zé Borgue. Resist-ANCE is futile! :lticaptd:

Come to think of it, the Borg with sound ridiculous with many US - British/ Commonwealth accents :D 

 

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  On 11/1/2024 at 1:49 PM, yazeh said:

Then I had this thought if there was a glitch / virus in the Borg programming and they would speak with Picard/ Loctus' ancestral language, i.e. French. No one would take them seriously. Ve aRe Zé Borgue. Resist-ANCE is futile! :lticaptd:

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:lticaptd:

 

Back in 1999 (I think), I made a trip for work to a zillion countries in Europe in short order (OK, it was 5, but still).  In Belgium, the TV was showing Walker, Texas Ranger - speaking French!!  It was more than a little disturbing - Chuck Norris speaking French?  I don't think so.

 

  On 11/1/2024 at 1:49 PM, yazeh said:

Come to think of it, the Borg with sound ridiculous with many US - British/ Commonwealth accents :D 

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True.  Patrick Steward pulled it off, though.

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  On 11/1/2024 at 4:51 PM, LizEF said:

Back in 1999 (I think), I made a trip for work to a zillion countries in Europe in short order (OK, it was 5, but still).  In Belgium, the TV was showing Walker, Texas Ranger - speaking French!!  It was more than a little disturbing - Chuck Norris speaking French?  I don't think so.

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They showed many US shows dubbed. I remember seeing Love Boat  in French. A lot of ex-pat friends tried to learn French by watching TV and listening to the Radio. I read many French books in English first, before I could re-read them later in French :)

  On 11/1/2024 at 4:51 PM, LizEF said:

True.  Patrick Steward pulled it off, though.

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Eh oui! In Picard he speaks some French from time to time and gives the explanation why his family stopped speaking French 😛 

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  On 10/31/2024 at 4:16 PM, LizEF said:

Brown with hints of green -

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Thanks for the hint.

I have Octopus inks, and can see getting these. I once had one Baroque ink.

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  On 11/8/2024 at 6:28 PM, Bo Bo Olson said:

Thanks for the hint.

I have Octopus inks, and can see getting these. I once had one Baroque ink.

 

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Have fun. Octopus has a wide range of inks. From sheening, to pastel to neon inks. They have recently made a line for fountainfeder, too :)

 

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I thought I had replied?

 

The eye-popping chroma, the Kitteh drummer?  Lie de The?  What happened?  Was I only dreaming?

 

@yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming! 

 

 

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My other pen is a Montblanc.

 

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@yazeh This looks like an interesting color.  I'm wondering how it would compare to something like Noodler's El Lawrence (which I have).

So this might be one to try a sample of at some point.  Thanks for the review -- and, well, maybe not.... :wallbash:

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I am sure that it is just my and what I have held to be true but Umbra paint just wasn't this color, not that it isn't attractive but I always understood to be a definite shade of brown as opposed to grey, this ink is nearer to RAL 7022, Umbra Grey.

 

Nice review.

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  On 11/9/2024 at 12:15 AM, Sailor Kenshin said:

I thought I had replied?

 

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:) 

  On 11/9/2024 at 12:15 AM, Sailor Kenshin said:

The eye-popping chroma, the Kitteh drummer?  Lie de The?  What happened?  Was I only dreaming?

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Lie de Thé is still to come. It has been quite a few weeks, so probably you were caught up with other fun stuff :)

  On 11/9/2024 at 12:15 AM, Sailor Kenshin said:

@yazeh, thanks once again for making life colorful with your detailed, entertaining InkSplorations!  Keep ‘em coming! 

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A pleasure! I'll do my best :)

 

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  On 11/9/2024 at 12:26 AM, inkstainedruth said:

@yazeh This looks like an interesting color.  I'm wondering how it would compare to something like Noodler's El Lawrence (which I have).

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I'll see if I can digout my El Lawrence swatch and do a comparison :)

  On 11/9/2024 at 12:26 AM, inkstainedruth said:

So this might be one to try a sample of at some point.  Thanks for the review -- and, well, maybe not.... :wallbash:

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

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It's a fun ink for doing washes. But if you want me to dissuade you, I would say it's on the dry side :)

 

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      I have no ties or relationship. Just a very happy customer. He is a very experienced Montblanc expert.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 21:42
      I strongly recommend Kirk Speer at https://www.penrealm.com/
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:35
      @Seney724. The pen was recently disassembled and cleaned, but the nib and feed were not properly inserted into the holder. I'm in Maryland.
    • Diablo 26 Aug 21:32
      @Seney724. The nib section needs to be adjusted properly.
    • Seney724 26 Aug 18:16
      @Diablo. Where are you? What does it need?
    • Diablo 26 Aug 16:58
      Seeking EXPERIENCED, REPUTABLE service/repair for my 149. PLEASE help!!!
    • Penguincollector 19 Aug 19:42
      @Marta Val, reach out to @terim, who runs Peyton Street Pens and is very knowledgeable about Sheaffer pens
    • Marta Val 19 Aug 14:35
      Hello, could someone recommend a reliable venue: on line or brick and mortar in Fairfax, VA or Long Island, NY to purchase the soft parts and a converter to restore my dad's Sheaffer Legacy? please. Thanks a mill.
    • The_Beginner 18 Aug 2:49
      is there a guy who we can message to find a part for us with a given timelimit if so please let me know his name!
    • virtuoso 16 Aug 15:15
      what happene to the new Shaeffer inks?
    • Scribs 14 Aug 17:09
      fatehbajwa, in Writing Instruments, "Fountain Pens + Dip Pens First Stop" ?
    • fatehbajwa 14 Aug 12:17
      Back to FPN after 14 years. First thing I noticed is that I could not see a FS forum. What has changed? 🤔
    • Kika 5 Aug 10:22
      Are there any fountain pen collectors in Qatar?
    • T.D. Rabbit 31 July 18:58
      Ahh okay, thanks!
    • Scribs 29 July 18:51
      @ TDRabbit, even better would be in Creative Expressions area, subform The Write Stuff
    • T.D. Rabbit 29 July 11:40
      Okay, thanks!
    • JungleJim 29 July 0:46
      @T.D. Rabbit Try posting it in the "Chatter Forum". You have to be logged in to see it.
    • T.D. Rabbit 28 July 17:54
      Hello! Is there a thread anywhere 'round here where one can post self-composed poetry? If not, would it be alright if I made one? I searched on google, but to no avail...
    • OldFatDog 26 July 19:41
      I have several Parker Roller Ball & Fiber Tip refills in the original packaging. Where and how do I sell them? The couple that I've opened the ink still flowed when put to paper. Also if a pen would take the foller ball refill then it should take the fiber tip as well? Anyway it's been awhile and I'm want to take my message collection beyond the few pieces that I have... Meaning I don't have a Parker these refills will fit in 🙄
    • RegDiggins 23 July 12:40
      Recently was lucky enough to buy a pristine example of the CF crocodile ball with the gold plating. Then of course I faced the same problem we all have over the years ,of trying to find e refill. Fortunately I discovered one here in the U.K. I wonder if there are other sources which exist in other countries, by the way they were not cheap pen
    • The_Beginner 20 July 20:35
      Hows it going guys i have a code from pen chalet that i wont use for 10% off and it ends aug 31st RC10AUG its 10% off have at it fellas
    • T.D. Rabbit 19 July 9:33
      Somewhat confusing and off-putting ones, as said to me by my very honest friends. I don't have an X account though :<
    • piano 19 July 8:41
      @The Devil Rabbit what kind of? Let’s go to X (twitter) with #inkdoodle #inkdoodleFP
    • Mort639 17 July 1:03
      I have a Conway Stewart Trafalgar set. It was previously owned by actor Russell Crowe and includes a letter from him. Can anyone help me with assessing its value?
    • Sailor Kenshin 15 July 17:41
      There must be a couple of places here to share artworks.
    • T.D. Rabbit 15 July 12:45
      Hullo! I really like making ink doodles, and I'd like to share a few. Anywhere on the site I can do so? Thanks in advance!
    • Sailor Kenshin 6 July 17:58
      Pay It Forward.
    • AndWhoDisguisedAs 6 July 16:59
      where would I post wanting to trade bottle of ink straight up?
    • JungleJim 3 July 16:14
      @Bill Wood-- just look at the message below you that was posted by @PAKMAN. He is a moderator here on the forums.
    • Bill Wood 2 July 14:24
      Just checking on a classified section and where we are with that. Many thanks. Bill
    • PAKMAN 29 June 1:57
      @inky1 The software for the classified stopped working with the forum. So no we don't have a sales section anymore at FPN
    • inky1 28 June 16:49
      I am not sure which is the classifieds section
    • inky1 28 June 16:46
      IIs there a Fountain Pen Sales board anywhere on here?
    • dave c 25 June 19:01
      Hi. Anybody ever heard about a Royal Puck Pen. Very small but good looking.
    • Eppie_Matts 23 June 19:25
      Thanks! I've just ordered some #6's to experiment with.
    • Al-fresco 21 June 12:11
      @Eppie_Matts Shouldn't be a problem - I've just put a Bock #6 Titanium into a La Grande Bellezza section. Went straight in without any problem.
    • Curiousone11 21 June 4:35
      Any recommendations on anyone who specializes in original pen patents?
    • Eppie_Matts 20 June 1:32
      Hi all - I'm new to experimenting with pens and nibs. Can I put a bock 6 on a Pineider? Thanks!
    • penned in 16 June 17:33
      Hi, I'm new to this forum and was wondering where is the best place to sell a Montblanc ballpoint pen? Are ballpoints allowed here? It's a beautiful pen that deserves a great listing. Thanks.
    • ChrisUrbane 9 June 3:16
      I havent logged in here for a while. I have moved and when I try to change my location on my profile, when I go to save it, it sais 'page not found' and that I do not have authority to change that.
    • Dlj 6 June 20:19
      I am looking for someone who can repair a Waterman Preface ballpoint that won’t stay together
    • Penguincollector 30 May 14:59
      I just noticed that the oppsing team of the game I watched last night had a player named Biro in their lineup. He must be part of Marsell the oily magician’s cadre
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