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[yazeh]

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

I have a completely untested theory (perhaps I could get a government grant to do research 😞

 

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

Introverts prefer cats over dogs (what with dogs liking to go outside and socialize with everyone, whereas cats can be content indoors and often run hide from everyone, just like their owners). 

Ironic, I believe our cat is an extrovert. She loves interacting with people outdoors (if we let her) and have a tummy rub 🙀 and she prefers dogs, to cats  

2 hours ago, LizEF said:

Introverts are more likely to be writers, because their heads are full of thoughts clamoring¹ to come out, but they can't possibly tell those thoughts to a person (because they're introverts), so they write them instead.  Ergo, more cat fountain pen people, ergo more cat inks - because cats sell.

Some writers are extroverts, think Hemingway  and Eckhart Tolle is also a dog guy.   

Colorverse, I believe have several dog inks: 77 Walk The Dog, and JFK's dog to name a few

Ironically, when I was a kid, I was a dog person. It took me a long time to become enamoured with cats. 😸

 

 

[LizEF]

34 minutes ago, yazeh said:

 

Ironic, I believe our cat is an extrovert. She loves interacting with people outdoors (if we let her) and have a tummy rub 🙀 and she prefers dogs, to cats  

Some writers are extroverts, think Hemingway  and Eckhart Tolle is also a dog guy.   

Colorverse, I believe have several dog inks: 77 Walk The Dog, and JFK's dog to name a few

Ironically, when I was a kid, I was a dog person. It took me a long time to become enamoured with cats. 😸

 

 

I'm excluding you and your cat from my study!

 

And Hemingway.  And this Tolle dude (he'd probably charge me just for including him).

 

(Further, the existence of dog inks doesn't disprove my theory - cat people usually like dogs, too.  It's the dog people who too often dislike cats.)

 

Finally: my study is as complete as it will ever be - real introverts don't show up to be part of studies, let alone actually conduct them...

[yazeh]

28 minutes ago, LizEF said:

I'm excluding you and your cat from my study!

I'm an introvert 

28 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

And Hemingway.  And this Tolle dude (he'd probably charge me just for including him).

Tolle, he's in the Now  

28 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

(Further, the existence of dog inks doesn't disprove my theory - cat people usually like dogs, too.  It's the dog people who too often dislike cats.)

Awwwwwww!

28 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Finally: my study is as complete as it will ever be - real introverts don't show up to be part of studies, let alone actually conduct them...

[LizEF]

54 minutes ago, yazeh said:

 

54 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Tolle, he's in the Now  

I had to google.  Google does not dissuade me from thinking Tolle will charge a toll for participating in my poll study.

[yazeh]

1 hour ago, LizEF said:

I had to google.  Google does not dissuade me from thinking Tolle will charge a toll for participating in my poll study.

Be in the now 🧘‍♂️ 😊😹

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Be in the now 🧘‍♂️ 😊😹

[InesF]

15 hours ago, LizEF said:

I have a completely untested theory (perhaps I could get a government grant to do research ): Introverts prefer cats over dogs (what with dogs liking to go outside and socialize with everyone, whereas cats can be content indoors and often run hide from everyone, just like their owners).  Introverts are more likely to be writers, because their heads are full of thoughts clamoring¹ to come out, but they can't possibly tell those thoughts to a person (because they're introverts), so they write them instead.  Ergo, more cat fountain pen people, ergo more cat inks - because cats sell.

Oh, that's a highly interesting theory! 👍 To complete it, I suggest to add: those hiding introvert individuals maybe like to hide their writing as well?  

 

15 hours ago, LizEF said:

¹The way the "a" in that word is pronounced requires two "m"s. One "m" suggests it should be pronounced like "Claymore", but it's not.  That there is only one "m" is wrong, just wrong.

The second interesting fact in one post. At first, that such things happen in English language is good for the own ego, because such counter-logic things do happen in German writing as well. And second: is the writing or is the pronunciation off-rule?

[yazeh]

6 hours ago, InesF said:

Oh, that's a highly interesting theory! 👍 To complete it, I suggest to add: those hiding introvert individuals maybe like to hide their writing as well?  

That's when generalization is dangerous  

 

[LizEF]

8 hours ago, InesF said:

Oh, that's a highly interesting theory! 👍 To complete it, I suggest to add: those hiding introvert individuals maybe like to hide their writing as well?  

Whether they hide their writing or not, they still buy ink...

 

9 hours ago, InesF said:

...such counter-logic things do happen in German writing as well.

Shocking!  I would have thought the Germans would have a 12-mile-long word for the process of preventing such things from happening!   I guess it's only the French who have a whole department filled with people to make sure their language is perfect in every way.

 

9 hours ago, InesF said:

And second: is the writing or is the pronunciation off-rule?

Yes.

[InesF]

18 hours ago, LizEF said:

Shocking!  I would have thought the Germans would have a 12-mile-long word for the process of preventing such things from happening!

You mean something like: Oberlehrerhochdeutschschulalltagsaussprachenregeldetail?

(Have fun with deepl)   

[LizEF]

4 hours ago, InesF said:

You mean something like: Oberlehrerhochdeutschschulalltagsaussprachenregeldetail?

(Have fun with deepl)   

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that you guys use the same word we do:

 

Further, I'm even more shocked that no one actually uses this word on the internet:

 

Finally, I'm extra  triple  super  shocked (and mildly offended ) that google knows that we use the same word in English and yet suggests that I make sure it's spelled correctly!  As if the whole world couldn't tell that it's spelled exactly right!

 

PS: Apparently google are behind on indexing the Fountain Pen Network - I mean, they could have at least found this thread...

[InesF]

15 minutes ago, LizEF said:

PS: Apparently google are behind on indexing the Fountain Pen Network - I mean, they could have at least found this thread...

OMG! 

I have to leave the office - people are starting to look in a strange way at me laughing and rolling on the floor .... 

[LizEF]

36 minutes ago, InesF said:

OMG! 

I have to leave the office - people are starting to look in a strange way at me laughing and rolling on the floor .... 

[yazeh]

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

Here a few long words for you. 

Disclaimer: Professor Eeness  Please close your office door before reading: 

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (name of village in Wales)

and some nice Finnish words. Though I admit I don't understand the English translation either

It reminds me of the obsession nowadays with number 9 nibs, largest pens and in retrospect of kindergarten, My dad has the biggest..... mentality  

 

31 letters:

apteekkitavaraintarkastuslaitos (pharmacy product inspection office)

32 letters:

epäjärjestelmäl­lisyydes­täänköhän (from its unsystematic nature?)

58 letters:

(with his/her ability to not disorganize, I wonder)

61 letters:

lento­kone­suihku­turbiini­moottori­apu­mekaanikko­ali­upseeri­oppilas(aeroplane jet turbine motor assistant mechanic, non-commissioned officer, in training.)

 

I used the following articles:

https://finland.fi/life-society/in-search-of-finlands-longest-word/

https://talkpal.ai/the-longest-words-in-the-finnish-language/

 

 

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Here a few long words for you. 

Disclaimer: Professor Eeness  Please close your office door before reading: 

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (name of village in Wales)

and some nice Finnish words. Though I admit I don't understand the English translation either

It reminds me of the obsession nowadays with number 9 nibs, largest pens and in retrospect of kindergarten, My dad has the biggest..... mentality  

 

31 letters:

apteekkitavaraintarkastuslaitos (pharmacy product inspection office)

32 letters:

epäjärjestelmäl­lisyydes­täänköhän (from its unsystematic nature?)

58 letters:

(with his/her ability to not disorganize, I wonder)

61 letters:

lento­kone­suihku­turbiini­moottori­apu­mekaanikko­ali­upseeri­oppilas(aeroplane jet turbine motor assistant mechanic, non-commissioned officer, in training.)

 

I used the following articles:

https://finland.fi/life-society/in-search-of-finlands-longest-word/

https://talkpal.ai/the-longest-words-in-the-finnish-language/

 

 

I theorize that on the day these words were invented, someone's space bar was broken.   (Except the naming of the Welsh village - that surely involved a group of drunken men... )

[InesF]

14 hours ago, yazeh said:

Disclaimer: Professor Eeness  Please close your office door before reading: 

Done! And adhered a handwritten sign at the door, reading: "Please don't disturb. Professor Eeenesss is acquiring new words for upcoming exams"

 👍

 

... reading further ...

15 hours ago, yazeh said:

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (name of village in Wales)

and some nice Finnish words. Though I admit I don't understand the English translation either

It reminds me of the obsession nowadays with number 9 nibs, largest pens and in retrospect of kindergarten, My dad has the biggest..... mentality  

 

31 letters:

apteekkitavaraintarkastuslaitos (pharmacy product inspection office)

32 letters:

epäjärjestelmäl­lisyydes­täänköhän (from its unsystematic nature?)

58 letters:

(with his/her ability to not disorganize, I wonder)

61 letters:

lento­kone­suihku­turbiini­moottori­apu­mekaanikko­ali­upseeri­oppilas(aeroplane jet turbine motor assistant mechanic, non-commissioned officer, in training.)

Ah, here we go!  Oh yes, these are really nice words!

I'm loving it when a language allows to tell a short story with only one word! It feels like a secret communication code.

 

I've seen such whole sentences written in Thai language which makes them unreadable for me. ( @LizEF: Thailand has banned the space keys - and has sent their surplus and all the grammar and orthography problems to 1^st world countries.  )

 

Unfortunately I do not know about word construction rules in other languages, but you are allowed to combine substantives in German, following only minimal rules so that their sequence describes a thing or a fact in a logic chain from general to specific. This allows the reader to follow the chain - ... for whatever reason.

No doubt, language is fun! 

[yazeh]

4 hours ago, InesF said:

Done! And adhered a handwritten sign at the door, reading: "Please don't disturb. Professor Eeenesss is acquiring new words for upcoming exams"

 👍

 

4 hours ago, InesF said:

 

... reading further ...

Ah, here we go!  Oh yes, these are really nice words!

I'm loving it when a language allows to tell a short story with only one word! It feels like a secret communication code.

Isn't it?

4 hours ago, InesF said:

 

I've seen such whole sentences written in Thai language which makes them unreadable for me. ( @LizEF: Thailand has banned the space keys - and has sent their surplus and all the grammar and orthography problems to 1^st world countries.  )

And then you alphabets that ignore vowels and function with diacritics which are rarely used, Hebrew, Arabic/ Farsi etc. 

4 hours ago, InesF said:

 

Unfortunately I do not know about word construction rules in other languages, but you are allowed to combine substantives in German, following only minimal rules so that their sequence describes a thing or a fact in a logic chain from general to specific. This allows the reader to follow the chain - ... for whatever reason.

No doubt, language is fun! 

I'm not sure, I understand art you say. I suck at grammar. But, I have to trust what the professor says, is true  

[LizEF]

5 hours ago, InesF said:

"Please don't disturb. Professor Eeenesss is acquiring new words for upcoming exams"

 

5 hours ago, InesF said:

( @LizEF: Thailand has banned the space keys - and has sent their surplus and all the grammar and orthography problems to 1^st world countries.  )

Very clever of them!

 

5 hours ago, InesF said:

No doubt, language is fun! 

That's the truth!

[Mercian]

On 10/21/2024 at 7:27 AM, InesF said:

And second: is the writing or is the pronunciation off-rule?

 

Rule? 😁
English is a language that has at least five 'mothers', and it is also the only language that is known to follow other languages down dark alleyways, hit them on the head, and then rifle-through their pockets and bags for any interesting words that it can steal.

 

As for the 'rules' of English spelling/pronunciation, I always recommend that anyone who is interested in attempting to learn them should attempt to read the following poem, out loud, without reading it through first.
It will defeat native speakers of English (it certainly defeated me, hilariously and joyously), so I have no idea how non-native learners of English could be expected to cope!

→ The Chaos ←

 

The poem was written by Gerald Nolst Trenité, a Dutch writer and teacher who learned English, and in 1920 published a book of exercises in English pronunciation. This poem appeared in it.

[Mercian]

On 10/20/2024 at 4:02 PM, LizEF said:

Introverts are more likely to be writers, because their heads are full of thoughts clamoring¹ to come out, but they can't possibly tell those thoughts to a person (because they're introverts), so they write them instead.

 

On 10/20/2024 at 4:02 PM, LizEF said:

¹The way the "a" in that word is pronounced requires two "m"s. One "m" suggests it should be pronounced like "Claymore", but it's not.

 

To be fair, when a torrent of words is clamouring (the British-English spelling, so obvsly just has to be spelled more-confusingly) to come out, one could also think of it as 'Claymore-ing' to come out.
The metaphor works equally-'well' whether one is alluding to a large Scottish sword, or to an American landmine 😉