Jacques Herbin – Moulin Rouge (Couleurs de Paris collection)

[yazeh]

Jacques Herbin – Moulin Rouge (Couleurs de Paris)

 

This is the 2^nd ink, of the new Jacques Herbin collections, Couleurs de Paris (Colors of Paris), sold in J Herbin 10 ml or 30 ml bottles. 

The first ink of the series I reviewed is Rue de la Verrerie. 

Moulin Rouge is the famous French cabaret, birthplace of can-can etc.   💃

Photo Courtesy of Wikipedia 

 

I cannot describe the colour; it hovers between red/ orange and a touch of pink. I believe the Herbin inkmeisters have managed to capture the Moulin Rouge mystique  

It changes depending pen, paper & nib. Shading is paper dependant, but best with M/B nibs, extreme on Iroful paper, subtle on Rhodia and Midori. 

Ink is not as wet as Rue de la Verrerie and lubrication is slightly below average. 

It ghosts and there is some bleed through on copy paper. 

 

Long dry times on Rhodia, makes it unsuitable for lefty over-writers and water resistance is ok, but it won't survive a swim  

 

Chroma:

 

 

 

Writing Samples:

Quotes are by the French painter Touluse-Lautrec commissioned to do posters for Moulin Rouge. 

 

 

Photo:

 

 

Comparison:

Water test:

Left side 10 seconds under running water. 

 

Art Work:

My artwork serves to show case the inks, I tired to include as many as the new Herbin inks

Paper is a Talens mixed media paper. 

Here is a tiny  homage to the Moulin Rouge Cabaret: 

 

Jacques Herbin Moulin Rouge / rue de la Verrerie (Royal blue), Les toits to Paris (grey blue)

Noodler's Lexington Gray, and Sailor Kiwa-guro

 

rue de Chat. Apparently the narrowest street in Paris is named rue du chat qui pêche (the cat that fishes ) 

Jacques Herbin rue de la Verrerie (Blue) Métropolitain (Green), Moulin Rouge and Tour Eiffel (golden Brown). And Sailor Kiwa-guro for the outlines 

 

·      Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Lamy (EF/F/M/B), Waterman W2 vintage flex.

·      What I liked: Undefinable colour. 

·      What I did not like: Long dry times. 

·       What some might not like: Long dry times. 

·      Shading: Paper dependant. Best with M/B nibs. 

·      Ghosting: Yes, on cheap paper. 

·      Bleed through: A bit on cheap paper.

·      Flow Rate: Wet

·      Lubrication: Pen dependant. Agreeable with M/B nibs. 

·      Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. 

·      Start-up:  Ok

·      Saturation:  Pastel

·      Shading Potential: Paper/nib/ pen dependant. 

·      Sheen: No. 

·      Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice. 

·      Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

·      Staining (pen): No. 

·      Clogging: Did not notice.

·      Cleaning: Surprisingly alright. 

·      Water resistance: A lot of ink washed away. 

·      Availability: 10/30ml J Herbin bottles. 

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

 

[InesF]

OMG!, that Moulin Mouse drawing!   

 

Thank you, @yazeh, for gifting such a funny, nevertheless informative, ink review to us! 👍

 

I like how the colour appears on Rhodia and on Hammermill paper - as always, I do not only enjoy the ink lines but also the quotes!  

I may not buy this red Paris ink, although it has some style because of its background.

 

Btw., I would buy the Moulin Mouse drawing!   Would you allow me to print the image and put it on the wall in my office, right beside Professor Eeeness?

 

And, sure, I'm excited about the water test where no (drawn) animal was hurt! 

[yazeh]

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

OMG!, that Moulin Mouse drawing!   

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

 

Thank you, @yazeh, for gifting such a funny, nevertheless informative, ink review to us! 👍

A pleasure, professor  

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

I like how the colour appears on Rhodia and on Hammermill paper - as always, I do not only enjoy the ink lines but also the quotes!  

Thank you!

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

I may not buy this red Paris ink, although it has some style because of its background.

 

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

 

Btw., I would buy the Moulin Mouse drawing!   Would you allow me to print the image and put it on the wall in my office, right beside Professor Eeeness?

Of course you can print it. The drawing is very small, 12x12 cm  If you want I can sent it to you (free of course ) , it would be an honour  

10 minutes ago, InesF said:

And, sure, I'm excited about the water test where no (drawn) animal was hurt! 

 

[InesF]

3 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Of course you can print it. The drawing is very small, 12x12 cm

Thank you! 😊 I will print it 12x12cm in size!  

[lgsoltek]

Doesn't it look basically the same as their Rouge Caroubier?

 

[yazeh]

5 hours ago, InesF said:

Thank you! 😊 I will print it 12x12cm in size!  

 

[yazeh]

57 minutes ago, lgsoltek said:

Doesn't it look basically the same as their Rouge Caroubier?

 

No, not really. When I look at them side by side, they are different. I tried to take photos, but the camera doesn't capture the difference. 

Rouge Caroubier is more scarlet, brighter, in your face. Moulin Rouge is darker. 

What they share in common is long dry times, and low lubrication, but they are definitely different

If I were to choose one between the two, I would go for Moulin Rouge, it has more nuance, if it makes any sense.  But thankfully, I have enough reds

 

 

 

 

 

[lgsoltek]

2 minutes ago, yazeh said:

No, not really. When I look at them side by side, they are different. I tried to take photos, but the camera doesn't capture the difference. 

Rouge Caroubier is more scarlet, brighter, in your face. Moulin Rouge is darker. 

What they share in common is long dry times, and low lubrication, but they are definitely different

If I were to choose one between the two, I would go for Moulin Rouge, it has more nuance, if it makes any sense.  But thankfully, I have enough reds

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the side-by-side! It looks a little bit different here, that I can see. Anyway for me it's not really a very inspiring red...

[LizEF]

A nice bright red.  I think I might prefer the darker red from your photograph - which would have saved me from finally running "Moulin" through google translate after a lifetime...    How fun that the cat in the hat posed for your swatch card!   Paris must have been a bit of a wreck after the two of you stopped in for a visit.

 

Hmm.  The water test is intriguing - is that a kitten mill and "canned" mouse?    Love the artwork, as always.  Red kitty mill looks rather sinister.  Poor blue kitty looks a little frightened...  What is he observing off to his left?  The sinister kitty mill eating poor mousey?  Hmm....

 

Enjoyable as always, @yazeh!  Thank you for continuing the series for us.

 

 

[Sailor Kenshin]

This JH ink series seems interesting, glad you are getting to them.  The chroma's a little mysterious, oui?
 

Another ink not for moi, though I love your artwork and quotes.  Kitteh in the hat, lol.  @yazeh, thanks so much, and please keep it up!   I am eager to see the rest of the series.

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, lgsoltek said:

Thank you for the side-by-side! It looks a little bit different here, that I can see. Anyway for me it's not really a very inspiring red...

It's Ok. But when you've used as many inks as we have, it's sort of ok  

[yazeh]

49 minutes ago, LizEF said:

A nice bright red.  I think I might prefer the darker red from your photograph - which would have saved me from finally running "Moulin" through google translate after a lifetime...   

Sorry, I forgot to add a translation  It's a difficult colour to photograph. Here is a better photo, maybe it helps you and @lgsoltek appreciate the difference between the two inks  I had to fold my Tomoe River 68 gsm to show the contrast

49 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Hmm.  The water test is intriguing - is that a kitten mill and "canned" mouse?   

Yes. It was supposed to be a mouse doing the can-can. Very good   My water test sketches are on the spot. It's the first draft, good or bad  

49 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Love the artwork, as always.  Red kitty mill looks rather sinister. 

He's inviting the Klaw to come in drink Champaign and enjoy the show 

49 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Poor blue kitty looks a little frightened...  What is he observing off to his left?  The sinister kitty mill eating poor mousey?  Hmm....

No, he's try to be a street sign  

49 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Enjoyable as always, @yazeh!  Thank you for continuing the series for us.

 

 

A pleasure!

[yazeh]

55 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

This JH ink series seems interesting, glad you are getting to them.  The chroma's a little mysterious, oui?

It's try ing to recreate the mystique of Moulin Rouge at night

55 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

Another ink not for moi, though I love your artwork and quotes.

I know, some of them having surprisingly long dry times  Glad my contribution is appreciated 🙏

55 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

 Kitteh in the hat, lol.  @yazeh, thanks so much, and please keep it up!   I am eager to see the rest of the series.

I have finished reviewing them all. I'll post the Brown Eiffel Tower this weekend  

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, yazeh said:

It's a difficult colour to photograph. Here is a better photo, maybe it helps you and @lgsoltek appreciate the difference between the two inks  I had to fold my Tomoe River 68 gsm to show the contrast

Oh!  Thank you for the extra effort.    I do like this darker version better.

 

4 minutes ago, yazeh said:

My water test sketches are on the spot. It's the first draft, good or bad  

Wise decision!

 

5 minutes ago, yazeh said:

He's inviting the Klaw to come in drink Champaign and enjoy the show 

 

5 minutes ago, yazeh said:

No, he's try to be a street sign  

[Sailor Kenshin]

2 hours ago, yazeh said:

It's try ing to recreate the mystique of Moulin Rouge at night

I know, some of them having surprisingly long dry times  Glad my contribution is appreciated 🙏

I have finished reviewing them all. I'll post the Brown Eiffel Tower this weekend  

Yaaay!  😸

[inkstainedruth]

@yazeh Thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.  

I'd have to see this one in person, I think.  I get futzy about red inks -- I want them to be RED (think Diamine Classic Red).  Not pink, not brown, not orange, not violet leaning and not burgundy.  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[The_Beginner]

Ty i was deep diving in my j.herbins so good to see what im getting ^^

[yazeh]

5 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

@yazeh Thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.  

A pleasure  

5 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

I'd have to see this one in person, I think.  I get futzy about red inks --

Same here  

5 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

I want them to be RED (think Diamine Classic Red).  Not pink, not brown, not orange, not violet leaning and not burgundy.  

Then I doubt this is for you. Ink is very paper dependant

 

[yazeh]

20 minutes ago, The_Beginner said:

Ty i was deep diving in my j.herbins so good to see what im getting ^^

  

 

[namrehsnoom]

Love the review - well done! The artwork is inspiring, and the Moulin Rouge photo was a nice touch. 

This red looks tempting... it seems to be just that touch different from other reds, dancing between red & orange ... a true can-can ink 😉