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Geha 700 Schulfüller from the 1950s - does anyone recognise this logo on its nib?


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Hi all,
I am posting this thread to see whether anyone else recognises the logo on the nib of my late 1950s Geha 700 Schulfüller:

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The logo to which I am referring is the sun disk with 12 ‘rays’ on it, near the grip-section.

None of other Geha 700s that I have seen in photographs have had this, 12-rayed, sun logo.

I wonder whether it might indicate something about the nib, e.g. nib width, grind-shape, or degree of hardness/flexibility.

 

This nib is a gold-plated steel nib. It is, as is correctly indicated on the pen’s piston-turning knob, an ‘FK’ nib - an ‘F’ nib with ‘kugel’ (ball) tipping.
It produces a mono-width line, unlike many German nibs of the 1950s, which often had very ‘flat’-shaped tipping, and produce a ‘cursive italic’ line.

 

In terms of flexibility, this nib is slightly ‘springy’, or ‘bouncy’; it is not, by any means, a ‘flex’ nib.
It is slightly less ‘bouncy’ than is the steel ‘F’ nib on my Pelikan M205 from 2012, or the 14k gold ‘M’ nib on my Pelikan M400 from the 1990s (1991-97).
It is much less ‘bouncy’ than is the 14k gold ‘F’ nib on my 1954 Pelikan 400, which nib has one of the flat-tipped ‘cursive italic’ grinds on it.

 

So, has anyone seen this ‘12-rayed sun’ logo on another Geha nib before?
Does anyone recognise/know that it signifies anything, or what the different logos ‘mean’?

 

My thanks to you in advance for any answers.

 

Slàinte,
M.
 

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No....& I have six or so piston Gehas.

I don't know ahtt hat fancy mark says....perhaps www.ruettinger-web.de..Geha blog could help.He is also one of the best for Pelikan.

 

However, Degussa made Gehas nibs. Therefore being so like Osmai's are a slight tad mopre springy than Pelikans.

Two posters I respect posted that, and I tested my 5-6 vintage Gehas vs 5 vintage Pelikans and found it to be true, even in the maxi-semi-flex 790 Ef Geha vs the OF maxi-semi-flex 400nn.

Slight but a bit more springy.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

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Yes, I have 2 with that, and when I got them I was able to find out what it meant, although I have since forgotten. I think I got the information from a search on FPN, but with an external search engine.

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I have one, not sure of the model number or the provenance, to be honest, but on the pen it also says Schulfüller, and Mit Reservetank. This is engraved on the barrel.

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The school nib sections don't fit the main 760-780-790 pens.

 

In fact there are two different school pen sections whose screw thread angles in school fillers differ from the main line.

 

I once bought a package of  5 in the Bay, keeping the one with the most spring. I sent four to a pal in England and he sent me a slightly thinner and a hair longer Geha School pen, that didn't fit. He sent me a school pen that fit, with that maxi-semi-flex nib.

 

I eventually got rid of that shocking Geha School pen:yikes:...which in spite of all logic, had a Geha maxi-semi-flex nib on it. (Geha's nibs were made by Degussa...as I mentioned in another thread, I tested my 4-5 Pelikans from that era vs my 5 Geha's (non-school pens) and found the Degussa/Geha nib, (actually a Osmia nib**) to be a tad more springy in semi-flex than the Pelikan.....also the maxi, which is also such, a tad more spring in the Geha, than the Pelikan.  I had two maxi's in Pelikan and only one in Geha.

 

I was setting up my neighbor upstairs in the apartment house, with the basics of fountain pens, out side his nail common Parker in M.

EF regular flex 1745 Reform (eyeballed, not so marked, and the normal 1745 and brothers P-something or another, were F's.), F in that maxi-semi-flex Geha school pen, a nice springy regular flex M 200, and a OB semi-flex 140.

 

My Geha school pen is out in a pen holder, a nice, slightly thin girthed standard sized pen, with a nice springy F nib....not the normal school pen's FK. K=Kugal, ball on top. It is inked with Pure Pens's, shading Pendine Sands, a nice dark sandy ink.. Sort of the color of damp sand. A bit lighter than Herbin Lie de Thee`.

 

**Degussa took over Osmia's nib factory from Osmia, for debt in 1932, and the workers shockingly wouldn't move 45Km to Pfortsheim, where Degussa was and is  HQ'ed. So the factory remained in the Osmia factory in Heidelberg. Degussa made nibs until 2000, for Mutchler....

In the meanwhile for anyone wanting nibs, with their own company stamp (like the late comer Bock) , or Degussa's half sunrize mark...Geha and towards the end as Soennecken died, Degussa made their nibs also. Soennecken died because they got into the ball point market too late, MB and Pelikan were well before them....and folks matched their ball points after it was time that decade for a new fountain pen...despite Sonnecken made the best fountain pen in the '50-60's.

 

It's a shame I don't have but a Sonnecken Franki, but Sonnecken was up there at MB prices back when I was a bottom filler....and ..ah...ha...I need at least one....

I'll have to go down to Thomas's/Kaweco on the com's fountain pen museum, across the river in Handschueheim (glove home)...a part of Heidelberg, and finger a couple to see what size I'll want.

In the 111 Extra is 149 size, I'll not want one of them..................Then do something weird...:o save up the money.

 

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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