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Seems very different for an M800 special edition. Reminds me of something, Sailor maybe?

 

I think I like it but can't say until seeing real pictures. 

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I like pens whose design I can appreciate even though it goes against my preference for a single colour for cap and barrel, and no gold trim. It even seems to have an ink window. Still, at a probable price of 3x my max budget per pen... Luckily I finally reached my maximum number of pens.

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It is an interesting pen, and a couple of years back I'd probably get it immediately, even if I'm not 100% sure about the colors.

Now... I'll probably pass. I just have way too many M800 already and I'm more interested in different nibs, which this one does not offer.

 

I must say that I'm glad that the cap bands are back to the original shape.

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  Oh that’s gorgeous! Time will tell if I end up with one, I go back and forth on how much I like the size. I prefer the brass piston to the plastic ones. 

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Pelikan M300 CIF, Pelikan Edelstein Golden Beryl

MontBlanc 144R F, Diamine Bah Humbug

Pelikan M605 F, Pelikan Edelstein Moonstone

Waterman Caréne Black Sea, Teranishi Lady Emerald

Pilot 742 FA, Namiki Purple cartridge 

always looking for penguin fountain pens and stationery 

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8 hours ago, Lam1 said:

It is an interesting pen, and a couple of years back I'd probably get it immediately, even if I'm not 100% sure about the colors.

Now... I'll probably pass. I just have way too many M800 already and I'm more interested in different nibs, which this one does not offer.

 

I must say that I'm glad that the cap bands are back to the original shape.

I agree, in this price range I think the nib grinds are underwhelming. 

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16 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

I prefer the brass piston to the plastic ones. 

In I don't take my Pelikans apart for cleaning invisible dirt behind the piston, so plastic pistons don't bother me.

I never felt the slightest urge to open up either of my two brass gutted 800's. The 2002 or the '89-90 ones work just fine....haven't even had to add silicon grease.

 

I have noticed more on my standard sized MB 234 1/2 Deluxe the brass piston guts making the pen a bit back heavy. Which didn't prevent it from winning my noobie 20 pen balance test.

With the Large 800, I don't notice the brass guts, in the pen is for me, Quite Large as is.

The 3-4 gram lighter 146 is 'stately' not clunky, that the brass guts perhaps makes the 800. Un-posted too short, posted too long.

I do think the Pelikan 200/400/600 to have very fine balance; posted. The 140 too, when posted.

 

There are a lot of pretty 800's,this is one,  but are too large for me.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

In I don't take my Pelikans apart for cleaning invisible dirt behind the piston, so plastic pistons don't bother me.

I never felt the slightest urge to open up either of my two brass gutted 800's. The 2002 or the '89-90 ones work just fine....haven't even had to add silicon grease.

 

I have noticed more on my standard sized MB 234 1/2 Deluxe the brass piston guts making the pen a bit back heavy. Which didn't prevent it from winning my noobie 20 pen balance test.

With the Large 800, I don't notice the brass guts, in the pen is for me, Quite Large as is.

The 3-4 gram lighter 146 is 'stately' not clunky, that the brass guts perhaps makes the 800. Un-posted too short, posted too long.

I do think the Pelikan 200/400/600 to have very fine balance; posted. The 140 too, when posted.

 

There are a lot of pretty 800's,this is one,  but are too large for me.


 

  I don’t take my pens apart either, Bo Bo. It wasn’t really the done thing when I started 40 years ago, and it’s still not a part of my pen cleaning process. My M800 has never needed anything but water and the occasional dish soap. I like the weight of the brass piston in my hand. I prefer the length of my M400 but perfection for me would be a 400 sized pen with a brass piston. 

Top 5 of 26 (in no particular order) currently inked pens:

Pelikan M300 CIF, Pelikan Edelstein Golden Beryl

MontBlanc 144R F, Diamine Bah Humbug

Pelikan M605 F, Pelikan Edelstein Moonstone

Waterman Caréne Black Sea, Teranishi Lady Emerald

Pilot 742 FA, Namiki Purple cartridge 

always looking for penguin fountain pens and stationery 

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31 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

perfection for me would be a 400 sized pen with a brass piston. 

MB 234 1/2....mine is the more expensive Deluxe, which is near 600 thick, a standard 400 length, with a brass piston guts....a slight tad  back heavy; yet is shocked me by being the best balanced of my 'noobie' 20 pen balance test.

KOB semi-flex.

I don't know if the normal MB 234 1/2 )'52-54 only)has a brass piston guts...I finished second in a live auction with one of them in it.

Meisterstuck clip, and a thick cap band instead of two thin ones of the normal 234 1/2....4 1/2 - nib size.

I being a real ignorant noobie, only knew MB as cigar, not a pen derived from the 139 era...didn't even know of the 139.

 For €170 I got the MB, and a 400nn full set. The 400nn finished 4th in my balance test.

I got home and eventually found out what that 'ugly' MB was, and it was then worth $200.:yikes: Later €500, and some Idiot Hunter wanted only $900 for it. Penboard.de had/has it for €500.

So one has to find out if the regular 234 1/2 has a brass piston guts or not. In they are reasonable....mine not at all.

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Best the standard sized slightly wider girthed, 234 1/2, second a thin medium-long Geha 725 Goldschwing,** 3rd a silver P-75, 4th the 400nn that was in that live auction lot with the MB.

 

** With permission of Penboard.de. Semi-flex F, mostly.

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There are two clips, this one and mine. Rolled gold trim.ogInSF2.jpg

I like the clip I have best.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

MB 234 1/2....mine is the more expensive Deluxe, which is near 600 thick, a standard 400 length, with a brass piston guts....a slight tad  back heavy; yet is shocked me by being the best balanced of my 'noobie' 20 pen balance test.

KOB semi-flex.

I don't know if the normal MB 234 1/2 )'52-54 only)has a brass piston guts...I finished second in a live auction with one of them in it.

Meisterstuck clip, and a thick cap band instead of two thin ones of the normal 234 1/2....4 1/2 - nib size.

I being a real ignorant noobie, only knew MB as cigar, not a pen derived from the 139 era...didn't even know of the 139.

 For €170 I got the MB, and a 400nn full set. The 400nn finished 4th in my balance test.

I got home and eventually found out what that 'ugly' MB was, and it was then worth $200.:yikes: Later €500, and some Idiot Hunter wanted only $900 for it. Penboard.de had/has it for €500.

So one has to find out if the regular 234 1/2 has a brass piston guts or not. In they are reasonable....mine not at all.

bYWN5De.jpg

S6TQikY.jpg

Best the standard sized slightly wider girthed, 234 1/2, second a thin medium-long Geha 725 Goldschwing,** 3rd a silver P-75, 4th the 400nn that was in that live auction lot with the MB.

 

** With permission of Penboard.de. Semi-flex F, mostly.

fqsYWy5.jpg

There are two clips, this one and mine. Rolled gold trim.ogInSF2.jpg

I like the clip I have best.

qWBcZxy.jpg


  I like your clip best as well, Bo Bo. I love the balance of the Goldschwing era piston fill Gehas.  My 72_ spade nib Geha is among my favorites. The Goldswchinge is high on my lists of wants, but I had never considered the MB 234 1/2, it’s so cute- the clip is very serpentine.

Top 5 of 26 (in no particular order) currently inked pens:

Pelikan M300 CIF, Pelikan Edelstein Golden Beryl

MontBlanc 144R F, Diamine Bah Humbug

Pelikan M605 F, Pelikan Edelstein Moonstone

Waterman Caréne Black Sea, Teranishi Lady Emerald

Pilot 742 FA, Namiki Purple cartridge 

always looking for penguin fountain pens and stationery 

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Meisterstuck clip.

Not every MB user wanted the new cigar MB's. and the 243 1/2 was a more refined....lower finial than the 139's of before the war.

Then the MB146 was a medium-large greatly balanced pen, not the 1970 to now large 146, only Stately feeling...at least to me.

I was told the Goldschwing came in other than black, but I never hunted enough after getting mine, to know.

Like a noobie fool, there was a front section of the 725 in M, that I didn't buy...thinking of course that would be common....never seen again.

I'm not sure if I was in the Pen of the Week in the Mail Club still, or in the Pen of the Month in the Mail Club. More than likely the latter.

Now in the Pen of the Quarter at the Auction House Club.:rolleyes:

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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I’d also like to see Pelikan offer a wider range of nibs. But since that is very unlikely I may purchase from a dealer that can grind nibs before shipping. 

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6 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

There are a lot of pretty 800's,this is one,  but are too large for me.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.  I remember when the M805 Stresemann came out and I was just drooling over it because it was just so classy looking.  But KNEW that it was going to be too big and heavy a pen for me.  And was hoping that they'd then release it as an M405 and then they did (and I didn't even have to rob a bank to pay for it:lol: )-- it was the one time in my life that I had a MAJOR shopping budget for whatever I wanted.  And saved money by getting it from Rolf Thiel on his eBay store, and also ended up getting an M405 in Blue/Black at the same time (of course they're STILL the two most expensive pens I own -- and an hour after I hit the "buy" button I got this call from PayPal going, "Did you know that a charge of X amount was just sent from your account to a vendor in Europe?" and I was going, "Why yes -- but thank you for calling...."  Got off the phone looked at my husband and said "OMG -- I really DID just spend that much money on only TWO pens...." :o

So, hoping in a few years that Pelikan will release this in the M400 size -- and that I can maybe afford it....  Because I really like the look of these.

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23 minutes ago, mulrich said:

I’d also like to see Pelikan offer a wider range of nibs. But since that is very unlikely I may purchase from a dealer that can grind nibs before shipping. 


  This is pretty much what I do now: buy in Broad, take it to a nib grinder at a later date. My local store has been having featured nib grinders like Speer and Salorino lately, which is super cool. 

Top 5 of 26 (in no particular order) currently inked pens:

Pelikan M300 CIF, Pelikan Edelstein Golden Beryl

MontBlanc 144R F, Diamine Bah Humbug

Pelikan M605 F, Pelikan Edelstein Moonstone

Waterman Caréne Black Sea, Teranishi Lady Emerald

Pilot 742 FA, Namiki Purple cartridge 

always looking for penguin fountain pens and stationery 

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I suggest buying nibs or '50-56 400-400nn factory stubbed semi-flex nibs....or the pens...the 400nn has a slightest tad better balance than the 400; only took me two years of testing them against each outer to be sure.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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As with the new grey M670, this new M800 is a pen that I'm going to have to wait and see in person - I hope that the Pelikan people at next week's Pelikan Hub in Hanover will have a copy of this model with them. It could be a gorgeous, deep blue that works very well with the white, or it could be just a little off.

 

Since you mentioned the Stresemann, Ruth, I'll say that I sadly missed out on the M1005 Stresemann - lots of life-events happening at the time and by the time I had emerged from them and saw the pen, it was sold out and was only available from secondary sellers at (ahem) somewhat inflated prices.

I did get the M805 Stresemann when it came out - from a well-known EU-based retailer - and had an absolutely terrible expeience with the EF nib and less-than-ideal customer service. Most of my experience with Pelikan products has been good; this was the distinct exception.

I don't have the M405 either. That, at least, was an active decision, as I couldn't afford it at the time.

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Pretty cool looking. Must resist!!!

 

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Well, isn't that pretty! If it were an M600, I might be tempted but, no, I can do without.

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