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I shake well, then let it start settling up some 15-30 seconds, and it become very glittery. I had no problem with the  ink being dry.

Perhaps you pen's feed is clogging up.

Try emptying the pen back into the ink bottle and fill just from the top. It should have less glitter.

Wet Paper towel trick??...

Sort of like a sponge in a small ash tray or rubber postal cup? That or a half a shot glass would work better I think.

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16 hours ago, JohnEbach said:

I just opened mu bottle of Golden Lapis and filled my TWSBI 580 with a 1.1 nib. I shook the ink well and filled from top to middle.  The first sentence was heavy gold glitter and then less and by the 3rd line the ink quit flowing totally.  I had to get a wet paper towel and draw the nib across which at first didn't do a thing until after several tries the gold and blue were showing up a lot.  I finally got the ink to flow and tried to write again.  It wrote for a while and then back to dry.  Not sure what might be happening here.  I tried the wet paper towel trick but had no real luck getting it to start.  I was wondering if others had had the issue with the Golden Lapis ink.  I may have to fill again with a shake t get it mixed and then fill from the top to get less gold?


This has been pretty much my finding with Golden Lapis, since I got a bottle. I was fine with a sample I had previously gotten, so now I'm just "adjusting" the amount of shimmer by waiting after shaking, or not shaking at all.

 

I read somewhere that the ink was made to be used with varying amounts of shimmer, the highest needing a dip pen. I'm not sure I can believe that, or there would be a warning somewhere on the bottle. 
It's also possible that too much shimmer was added at the factory in some bottles? Mine comes (indirectly) from the Pelikan Hub goodies pack so maybe they are giving their "off" bottles there?

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I want lots of shimmer, so wait until the glitter starts settling. 20-30 seconds.

If you want less, either don't shake as someone suggested....which is a waste...IMO in sooner ot later there will be glitter mud, or fill right after well shaken for less glitter.

 

Try a wetter pen.

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Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

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I'm using a TWSBI 580 with a 1.1 stub and I would shake the bottle, and then put it down, opened the cap, put the pen in the bottle to the normal depth I would put any piston fill pen into a bottle of ink, and I have an incredible amount of glitter in mine, but absolutely no issues with clogs, the flow is excellent. In fact I have to point the pen upwards for a few seconds every three or four words to prevent the letters from being all glitter with no base blue visible. I think next time I fill it I will shake it and let it sit a little longer before filling. This is my first shimmer ink and I only got it because I registered at a Pelikan Hub, but the 580 has handled it like a champ. This pen with an M or stub nib has long been my pen for difficult inks because it has always flowed so well.

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Contrary to my initial observation, after sitting in the pen for some time, I can now report that the amount of glitter laid down is copious, almost as much as Golden Beryl. The color is very pretty and it shades nicely, giving it almost an odd two-tone look where the bottom half of letters where the ink pools have the glitter while the upper half is fairly bereft of any. This may vary depending on the paper, of course.

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I find I have to point my pen nib upwards every few words when writing with it, otherwise the letters become all shimmer and you can't see the blue beneath it.

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On 10/27/2024 at 4:03 PM, JohnEbach said:

I just opened mu bottle of Golden Lapis and filled my TWSBI 580 with a 1.1 nib. I shook the ink well and filled from top to middle.  The first sentence was heavy gold glitter and then less and by the 3rd line the ink quit flowing totally.  I had to get a wet paper towel and draw the nib across which at first didn't do a thing until after several tries the gold and blue were showing up a lot.  I finally got the ink to flow and tried to write again.  It wrote for a while and then back to dry.  Not sure what might be happening here.  I tried the wet paper towel trick but had no real luck getting it to start.  I was wondering if others had had the issue with the Golden Lapis ink.  I may have to fill again with a shake t get it mixed and then fill from the top to get less gold?

I filled a Pelikan M200 Demonstrator from the Golden Lapis bottle I received at the last hub.  I shook the bottle thoroughly to suspend the particles, immediately filled the pen, wiped the nib/feed, and set the pen down to close the bottle.  By the time I got back to the pen roughly 15 seconds later most if not all of the glitter had succumbed to gravity and settled to the part of the pen closest to the earth.  I had the same issues as @JohnEbach in that the pen wrote well for almost 3/4 line and then glitter in ink on paper almost disappeared as ink flow decreased.  If I shook the pen things were back to normal for another 3/4 line on standard copy paper.  For some reason I found the routine of shaking the pen to resuspend little metal filings every 15 seconds objectionable and gave up on the ink after less than a quarter of a page of writing.  Cleaning the nib/feed was a bit of a challenge.  I had some qualms about loading the stuff into a piston filler but it was a Pelikan ink and a Pelikan pen.  I will be divvying up the bottle into samples to send to people who like tiny metal shavings in their inks. 

My experience with this type of ink is limited, I admit, but my first production run Chivor Emerald doesn't behave like this.

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Having mostly piston pens (many Pelikans) , didn't have any of those having to shake my pen so often.

I still have 17 pens inked so don't know if that one with Golden Lapis has run out of ink yet or not.

 

Should I need to start a dry pen, even if glitter, I have a German Postal sponge in a rubber cup. there are a number of different color glitter inks on the top of the sponge from hard starts...but with the help of thee sponge that is 5-7 seconds of jabbing.

A small ashtray with a common cut up kitchen sponge would do...last is a half filled shot glass.

But one could perhaps find small antique stamp cup from back an the days of lick a stamp...like still here in Germany. Green rubber sponge cup, nest to the Pelikan pen stand.

The second and smaller inkwell, was found with in weeks of the bigger one.hhREeyo.jpg

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.      Banker's bonuses caused all the inch problems, Metric cures.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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