Asvine and Hongdian

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

On 7/27/2024 at 5:59 AM, mke said:

It is a big mess:

Qiuming Li says she is the owner of esybuy: https://www.facebook.com/qiuming.li.3154/

Asvine also seems to claim to be "esybuy": https://www.facebook.com/asvinepen/

The address of Asvine corresponds to an apartment complex, not a production site: Google Maps

 

Let's see if I get an answer from Asvine. 

 

 

Li Qiuming owns online shop called Esybuy, dealing with all overseas orders of some Chinese makers. 

Li Qiuming owns his own brand, Asvine. And the story of Mr.Li ends here. I believe he is also a frequent visitor to this forum but not speak, as he is a trafficker not an enthusiast. 

 

Currently, there are three independent pen makers/brands in China: Hxx, Jxx and Hxx. They are able to manufacture a pen 100% inhouse. 

The rest makers are "brand+design house", they rely 100% on unaffiliated plants to complete a pen, OEM plants, if you prefer a fancy jargon. 

Bear in mind, fake MB are also manufactured in such OEM plants. Shared threads, interchangeable parts are therefore very common among certain brands nowadays.

 

I do not affiliate with any of the names above. I also believe here is the best level of disclosure I could do in public, as an enthusiast. 

[BoysRBackInTown]

On 7/27/2024 at 7:25 AM, mke said:

• Some sources suggest that Moonman/Majohn is one of several brands manufactured by a large Shanghai-based pen company, Shanghai Jingdian.

 

The main seller of Majohn on Alibaba is, I believe, Shanghai Shanyin Trading Company Limited. Unsure if that is related to Shanghai Jingdian, a front for them, or if they are simply a trader for them.  They also sell Hero, Delike and PenBBS, but are not the producers of any of those brands (of course).

 

When I asked the company via DM, they stated that they manufacture Majohn/Moonman. Obviously they do not make PenBBS or Hero but said they are the "general agent" for both, I assume this means they are a reseller, at least for those specific brands. They also have a statement clarifying the Majohn/Moonman name change on their account.

 

 

Again, this is going only on an Alibaba listing. But that is who is selling them.

 

Edit: someone on reddit also made that connection.

 

Also hi, I registered this account because I am also trying to untangle this.  If there has been any updates in untangling who owns Hong Dian aside from what has been said in the thread, I'd love to know.

Edited August 15 by BoysRBackInTown

[BoysRBackInTown]

Update from a friend

 

"Confirmed Hongdian: http://www.winwinsky.com/index.asp

 

"For Majohn, the closest I can get is a company established in 2018 in Shanghai, 上海末匠商贸有限公司.

That's what is listed as the producer on their flagship Tmall storepage, but the business information has them as a seller of products, not a manufacturer.

https://www.qcc.com/firm/eb8421183e1bddb249c3ce5c52b46db4.html"

[Waltz For Zizi]

What's the problem with PENBBS? dry nibs?

[mke]

On 9/20/2024 at 9:42 AM, Waltz For Zizi said:

problem with PENBBS

In my case: two pens - two cracked sections after a very short time - and no answer from their "customer-service".