Kyo No Oto turning purple?

[yazeh]

@LizEF sorry to hear that. Why not try Aonibi in another pen and see if it turns purple after a few weeks. Maybe there's something wrong with the ink. 

[LizEF]

40 minutes ago, yazeh said:

@LizEF sorry to hear that. Why not try Aonibi in another pen and see if it turns purple after a few weeks. Maybe there's something wrong with the ink. 

Yes, that's what I was thinking - Aonibi in a different pen and a "known good" ink in the London Fog to see if said "known good" still behaves well or if the pen turns it purple too.    Just have to decide what pen to use for the Aonibi...

[yazeh]

1 minute ago, LizEF said:

Yes, that's what I was thinking - Aonibi in a different pen and a "known good" ink in the London Fog to see if said "known good" still behaves well or if the pen turns it purple too.    Just have to decide what pen to use for the Aonibi...

keep us posted.

 

[LizEF]

45 minutes ago, yazeh said:

keep us posted.

 

Will do!

[LizEF]

Well, when examining the Visconti before filling, it doesn't look damaged, but there is something at the piston-end of the barrel, where there's a rubber seal (not like a typical o-ring, but serving the purpose of sealing around the rod so ink doesn't get out that end).  That rubber seal is on what looks like the equivalent of a washer, which is the color of brass.  As I examined it, I alternated between thinking it was metal and thinking it was something more like leather...  Now that the pen is inked, it's completely the color of the ink, which suggests either it doesn't go all the way to the edge of the barrel (seems strange if it's part of what helps keep ink in the barrel and not coming out the piston rod end), or that it is indeed something fibrous that can soak in the ink...  But that also seems like a weird idea.  If it is that, then it would suggest that some dye or other has gotten stuck in there and even all my cleaning hasn't gotten it out... Puzzling, to say the least.

 

Anyway, the Visconti is now full of Robert Oster Blue Denim and my Singularity is full of Aonibi.  Time will tell (or not)...

[yazeh]

Keep us posted @LizEF hope you find the truth to mystery. If the ink changes colour again, maybe the pen needs servicing. One of the reasons I prefer simple pens, but then I'm more of ink person  

[LizEF]

13 minutes ago, yazeh said:

If the ink changes colour again, maybe the pen needs servicing.

Let's pray not.  I'm not anxious to ship it away, though I hear Coles of London (who aren't in London) provide good service.

 

14 minutes ago, yazeh said:

One of the reasons I prefer simple pens, but then I'm more of ink person  

I think this is the only pen I have that I can't fully service myself - but it was irresistible...   (After checking, no, I also have a vintage Kaweco that I can't service, and I'm not so sure about my Pelikan m405 - the nib unit comes out easily enough, not sure about the piston.)

[yazeh]

15 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Let's pray not.  I'm not anxious to ship it away, though I hear Coles of London (who aren't in London) provide good service.

I won't pray then  

15 minutes ago, LizEF said:

I think this is the only pen I have that I can't fully service myself - but it was irresistible...   (After checking, no, I also have a vintage Kaweco that I can't service, and I'm not so sure about my Pelikan m405 - the nib unit comes out easily enough, not sure about the piston.)

I hope you can find solution. Maybe it's a pH thingy as @JungleJim mentioned in the other forum

 

[LizEF]

43 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I won't pray then  

 

43 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I hope you can find solution. Maybe it's a pH thingy as @JungleJim mentioned in the other forum

Yeah, at this point, there's no telling.  Fortunately, I already have too many things I should be doing, so waiting won't be that much of a problem.

[LizEF]

First fill of Aonibi in the Singularity ran out.  Decided to eyedropper it - the ink's so dry that there's hope it won't blurp.  And that's closer to how the ink was in my Visconti - which is still on its first fill of RO Blue Denim, which seems normal so far.

[yazeh]

5 hours ago, LizEF said:

First fill of Aonibi in the Singularity ran out.  Decided to eyedropper it - the ink's so dry that there's hope it won't blurp.  And that's closer to how the ink was in my Visconti - which is still on its first fill of RO Blue Denim, which seems normal so far.

Hope so too. I'm using an Ahab with a cartridge, every time it's reaching the end, the section spews out inks, so I know it's time for another refill  

Glad Blue Denim is working out. So, it means that it's a reaction between Visconti and Aonibi. An Italian who does't like Ramen  

[LizEF]

3 hours ago, yazeh said:

So, it means that it's a reaction between Visconti and Aonibi.

Well, Aonibi didn't react until the second fill, so the jury is still out.

 

3 hours ago, yazeh said:

An Italian who does't like Ramen

[inkstainedruth]

I don't have Aonibi, so I can't say what happened one way or the other.

The only ink that isn't an IG ink that I've seen that sort of color shift with is Robert Oster Bishop to King -- goes down on the page as a turquoise leaning blue, and then in a day or two it becomes purple (I suspect that's why it got the name). 

It was a little startling since of course all the scans and swabs I'd seen show it as purple....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[inkstainedruth]

On 6/27/2024 at 7:00 AM, yazeh said:

I heard once of two naughty cats, who learned how to open the hamsters cage, and once when the owner had left managed to make it disappear . All that was left were a few tufts of hair and an empty cage

Sure it was the cats who were responsible?  

We had hamsters when I was a kid, and they were little escape artists!  Their cage had a slide-out tray and we had to put the cage inside a box bottom with pieces of wood in front and back of it in the box so they couldn't squeeze out.  And had a spring with hooks AND a safety pin keeping the door closed.  AND kept the cage and box on top of the dryer in the laundry room, at the other end of the house from where the bedrooms were (partly because -- being nocturnal -- they ran on their wheel all night long making noise), and they STILL managed to get out, and make their way all the way to my brother's room -- so, from the laundry room, through the kitchen and dining room and past my room) one time and he woke up to noises that he thought at first was a burglar eating crackers(!) -- until he looked down at the floor between the dresser and his bed and spotted them about 5:30 AM one morning....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Sure it was the cats who were responsible?  

We had hamsters when I was a kid, and they were little escape artists!  Their cage had a slide-out tray and we had to put the cage inside a box bottom with pieces of wood in front and back of it in the box so they couldn't squeeze out.  And had a spring with hooks AND a safety pin keeping the door closed.  AND kept the cage and box on top of the dryer in the laundry room, at the other end of the house from where the bedrooms were (partly because -- being nocturnal -- they ran on their wheel all night long making noise), and they STILL managed to get out, and make their way all the way to my brother's room -- so, from the laundry room, through the kitchen and dining room and past my room) one time and he woke up to noises that he thought at first was a burglar eating crackers(!) -- until he looked down at the floor between the dresser and his bed and spotted them about 5:30 AM one morning....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

I once heard of two cats, who open the cage of a cancer and finished it off. Now, I'm wondering if the hamster had a death wish and did it on purpose

 

[LizEF]

FWIW, it's now been long enough that I'm convinced something in the Aonibi was reacting with something in the Visconti.  I would have to guess that Aonibi is quite alkaline and that's why it reacted, though I guess it could be some other reason.  Anyway, Aonibi in my eyedroppered singularity has stayed Aonibi-colored, and Robert Oster Blue Denim in my Visconti has stayed Blue Denim...

[yazeh]

Good to know that. Glad for the happy ending  

 

[senzen]

Neither Hisoku nor Aonibi have turned purple for me, I would suspect ink sediments in the pen.

 

Luckily since they are very expensive and hard to find inks for me.

[LizEF]

8 minutes ago, senzen said:

I would suspect ink sediments in the pen.

So would I, before the extensive level of cleaning I did.  Also, that pen has never had a red ink in it - closest is a brown, and there were many blues after the brown, and Aonibi is the only ink that has changed color in the slightest.

 

I'm convinced that Aonibi is reacting with something in the pen (other than old, dried, ink).

[Lithium466]

On 9/10/2024 at 5:24 PM, LizEF said:

FWIW, it's now been long enough that I'm convinced something in the Aonibi was reacting with something in the Visconti.  I would have to guess that Aonibi is quite alkaline and that's why it reacted, though I guess it could be some other reason.  Anyway, Aonibi in my eyedroppered singularity has stayed Aonibi-colored, and Robert Oster Blue Denim in my Visconti has stayed Blue Denim...

Actually Aonibi has a PH of around 4, surprisingly for Japanese inks the Kyo-no-oto are all (or for the most part) acidic.
Do you have some titanium jawellery (or else) you could use to dip for some time in Aonibi? And maybe something in stainless steel too? I wonder what else is in the Visconti that could cause such reaction!