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Junl, Junlai, Wing Sung, WS, Hero Group, Hero Industry, what the hell.... I am as much as sophisticatedly confused as you are.
So, I am doing a research on the topic of "evolution of Junlai, Wing Sung and Hero". It is a huge mess really. I have to visit some achieving system for some fact check, such labororing. The article is at stage of final polishment. 
"Junl" as in the title, is the most appropriate calling for this captioned maker, at least for the moment. 
The Wing Sung sellers on Esty Buy are supposed stand up for this task, instead of pushing for an upgrade to so-called long-knife. 
Yes, I just changed my mind, all WS Sellers out there, contact me, I am selling the article to you, which will boost your commercial wellbeing. 
 
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Hello Comrade
 
This color is called "Fanta", the most sought after variation among the 15 colors in ebonite. 
 
I paid $180 (1280 of Chinese Yuan) for this, with standard straight 18K F.
 
I learnt that, some seller on Esty Buy is asking for $260 to ship to the States. Well... now you know their bottom line. 
 
Pro: 
  • #8 18K nib, ebonite piston, for $180, come on! 
  • well finished details
  • Low Ink Refill
Con: 
  • Nib Tip Quality Consistency - China pen makers have been making huge progress in recent 2 years. According to my experience, Jinhao Steel M, never a failed one. But for Junl, you are meeting your chances here. Junl has been very successful and renown in recent years for her innovation and original designs, but not for its nib tip quality consistency (same of modern Pelican BTW). If you are out of China, you out of the reach of Junl factory warranty. My personal experience of several purchases with Junl requires factory warranty for 2 times, one to send me a new feed to fix the dropping, one to send a new 50/50 tint nib (typical Junl experience, same as Pelican). Junl is unconnected with your trusty sellers on Esty Buy. So, be aware of this risk. 
  • Assembly Quality - DIY needed to maximised the ink capacity. Factory setting of piston rod does not sit in his best position to retract the rod, i.e. rod does not retract fully into the knot to maximise the ink capacity. I measured the ink capacity goes from 1.3ml before to 1.5ml after my majestic touch. 

 

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To sum up, great pen, bargain pen, but if you were outside of China and out of reach of Junl factory warranty, have a second thought before making a move. Unless, your trusty Esty Seller offers free return policy. For the amount of extra they ask for, they should. 

 

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On 4/30/2024 at 1:51 AM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

If you are out of China, you out of the reach of Junl factory warranty. My personal experience of several purchases with Junl requires factory warranty for 2 times, one to send me a new feed to fix the dropping, one to send a new 50/50 tint nib (typical Junl experience, same as Pelican). Junl is unconnected with your trusty sellers on Esty Buy. So, be aware of this risk. 

Thanks for this info!

I found out that the various rumors I read on 知乎(zhihu) about this were true.

One of those posts said that the pens become decent after a certain period of time from the start of the launch. How is the quality of Junl products after some time has passed since their launch?

If that submission is correct and the quality of the pen improves, do you know how long I should wait?

 

 

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Thanks for sharing. Amongst the 600, 631 and 632 models, that colour is always out of stock. I agree with your assessment of Wingsung/Yongsheng/Junlai. My 631 was almost perfect except the nib alignment. I spent some time and effort before I made it work the way it should but it writes beautifully now. The build quality of my 631 is actually very good. 

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On 5/2/2024 at 9:53 PM, Number99 said:

Thanks for this info!

I found out that the various rumors I read on 知乎(zhihu) about this were true.

One of those posts said that the pens become decent after a certain period of time from the start of the launch. How is the quality of Junl products after some time has passed since their launch?

If that submission is correct and the quality of the pen improves, do you know how long I should wait?

 

 

It was not rumors. It was true. Junl was decently horrible. During the period of 2020 - 2022, several pens were launched with server pitfalls in quality, 601 Silver Cap Gen 5, 629 Initial, 630 Initial, scratch nibs, unaligned print, you get all sorts of funny shxt. That was the reason why Junl was never in my radar, until recently. 

 

My current experience of 3 pens from Junl, 2 of which require After Service. I can only speak of myself. 

 

Like I said, Junl gold nib quality is currently unstable, "waiting time" is not the key, the key is your "luck" here. 

 

Bear in mind, Junl is also cheap at the moment. $180 for #8 gold nib in hard rubber & piston. This is communism at your doorstep. 

 

With improving in quality consistency, i.e. more investment in inspection and equipment, I see a spike in retail price in the future. In modern pen world, #8 gold nib in hard rubber & piston, $500 is a reasonable fair price. 

 

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On 5/2/2024 at 11:12 PM, lukeap69 said:

Thanks for sharing. Amongst the 600, 631 and 632 models, that colour is always out of stock. I agree with your assessment of Wingsung/Yongsheng/Junlai. My 631 was almost perfect except the nib alignment. I spent some time and effort before I made it work the way it should but it writes beautifully now. The build quality of my 631 is actually very good. 

 yes, anything above the nib, are perfect. 

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On 5/7/2024 at 9:01 AM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

 

Bear in mind, Junl is also cheap at the moment. $180 for #8 gold nib in hard rubber & piston. This is communism at your doorstep. 

 

With improving in quality consistency, i.e. more investment in inspection and equipment, I see a spike in retail price in the future. In modern pen world, #8 gold nib in hard rubber & piston, $500 is a reasonable fair price. 

 

For me, this is very much the heart of my buying these pens. That they are made of a material I like (ebonite) and have an integral filling system are very important. The stylings of the 630, 631 & 632 are also attractive to me. But, just as Shanghai Knife Dude says above, the value proposition is incredible. There is also the prospect that these early pens from Jun Lai become valuable simply because of they are the first models and likely produced in smaller numbers than future models, if the brand finds success. 
 

Yes, I’m speaking as a collector here, not a pen user. The $20-$30 Chinese pens I use and enjoy every day aren’t going to be displaced much from being my primary pens in use—these will be my prized pens I keep, long after I’ve sold the bulk of my vintage and modern pens. 

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