100th Anniversary editions

[senceryan]

This product’s name “Montblanc Meisterstück Onepush”

ref: 130327 (5200€ - limited edition set 1924 pcs)

[NoType]

4 hours ago, senceryan said:

This product’s name “Montblanc Meisterstück Onepush”

ref: 130327 (5200€ - limited edition set 1924 pcs)

@senceryan Thank you for this information.

[mulrich]

I think the pricing is great. There's no temptation whatsoever to buy the pen so I don't have to spend time thinking about it or saving up. 

The filling system is interesting but there are other pens with a similar mechanism. Looks like MB's variant is a little more flexible, with an adapter able to work with different bottles, but I still don't see how this is a material improvement over other filling systems. Maybe for a person new to fountain pens this would be appealing but I can't imagine many newbies spending that much money on a pen. 

[lionelc]

i feel the same way @mulrich, dont think i will be tempted to part with this much cash just for a filling mechanism.  i am enjoying the 100 anniv 149 though.

[helloMB]

Thinking about it and discussing it with my local boutique, the pen really is priced at $3500, with $1000 leather pen box, $350 pen case, and ink and accessories that bring the price to what it is. Steep, but welcome to Montblanc territory. 

[marlinspike]

24 minutes ago, helloMB said:

Thinking about it and discussing it with my local boutique, the pen really is priced at $3500, with $1000 leather pen box, $350 pen case, and ink and accessories that bring the price to what it is. Steep, but welcome to Montblanc territory. 

 

Ok, but are they suddenly no longer having their boxes made in the third world? I could get that box made bespoke in Vienna and the retail price would be around $500. Generally speaking Montblanc has used countries like Thailand and China for the boxes.  Even if they used Italy, like they do for their leather, Italian labor is much cheaper than Austrian.
I guess you're right to say welcome to Montblanc territory, or at least post-Richemont Montblanc, but it really is a shame to see them follow the Kering/LVMH model.

[a student]

4 hours ago, marlinspike said:

I guess you're right to say welcome to Montblanc territory, or at least post-Richemont Montblanc, but it really is a shame to see them follow the Kering/LVMH model.

Very much the "post-Richemont Montblanc" territory, I would say. As for LVMH, Louis Vuitton apparently also sells fountain pens or a fountain pen– not sure who makes that pen or those pens for them

 

@marlinspike That is an interesting approach to making the 5000 dollar/euro look "reasonable" or at least acceptable, 

[Scribs]

For a moment, a brief moment I wondered if I had missed the news that MB has left the Richemont group. They haven't. "post-Richemont" means literally after, i.e. when Montblanc no longer has anything to do with Richemont. Just as there was pre-WWII, and post-WWII, the time inbetween is commonly known as WWII.

 

Here's hoping my example doesn't end up being taken literally as a ghastly, bloody analogy!!

[marlinspike]

10 hours ago, Scribs said:

For a moment, a brief moment I wondered if I had missed the news that MB has left the Richemont group. They haven't. "post-Richemont" means literally after, i.e. when Montblanc no longer has anything to do with Richemont. Just as there was pre-WWII, and post-WWII, the time inbetween is commonly known as WWII.

 

Here's hoping my example doesn't end up being taken literally as a ghastly, bloody analogy!!

Not to be pedantic....

Fine, post-Richemont acquisition.
 

[Opooh]

On 8/31/2024 at 4:23 AM, JCC123 said:

There's definitely pressure that builds from pressing down on the pen into the bottle and then the pressure reverses and pushes the ink back into the pen. The problem with this design is that unless you use the bulb to push the old ink out the nib, you'll end up pulling old ink into the bottle first and your ink in the bottle will age much faster than if you never contaminate it with old ink in the first place like a normal nib filler.

They are smarter than that. They use a valve between section and reservoir. In the clip, pen is pushed down in 2 pushes, a small and a bigger. They create a vacuum in the body, old ink stays in section due to close valve. At the beginning of the second push, one can hear a click, valve is opening. At this moment the pressure from incoming ink is bigger than pressure in the section.

[JCC123]

On 9/10/2024 at 8:45 PM, Opooh said:

They are smarter than that. They use a valve between section and reservoir. In the clip, pen is pushed down in 2 pushes, a small and a bigger. They create a vacuum in the body, old ink stays in section due to close valve. At the beginning of the second push, one can hear a click, valve is opening. At this moment the pressure from incoming ink is bigger than pressure in the section.

The old "who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?" If you watch that video again, you can clearly see that after the second push the red ink in the pen shoots back down into the ink bottle, so much so that it creates a splash and bubbles.

[a student]

19 minutes ago, JCC123 said:

The old "who are you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?" If you watch that video again, you can clearly see that after the second push the red ink in the pen shoots back down into the ink bottle, so much so that it creates a splash and bubbles.

 

 

Which ever way it works, to my mind this gadget bit is the main feature of this particular pen that distinguishes it from other Montblanc 149s. But the skeleton is reportedly not for sale and fun of watching the gadget at work and the pen filling up, perhaps once or twice a month if it is in regular use, is all gone.

 

Of course there is a class of collectors who would buy it anyway. But to me the pen looks way overpriced given that its sole distinctive attribute is a different filling mechanism which can't be seen at work, and that means having to lug around the bottle of ink, etc

 

May be I am missing something, or have lost the plot altogether

[eidola]

18 hours ago, a student said:

Which ever way it works, to my mind this gadget bit is the main feature of this particular pen that distinguishes it from other Montblanc 149s.

 

A rubber duck on the cap would distinguish it from other Montblanc 149s!

 

The mechanism isn't useful or especially interesting, and remaking Meisterstucks in marginally different colours is getting tired.

 

The recent catalogue is mostly Krone bling or a marginally different 146 every year.

 

I've forgotten the last Writers Series I saw 'in the wild'.

 

It's as though they just don't want my dollars. 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

[senceryan]

 

[NoType]

2 hours ago, senceryan said:

 

@senceryan Thank you very much for this fascinating peek.  Most informative.

[mulrich]

Thanks for sharing the video. Ease of use does seem nice, and I like the attachable bulb syringe. Compatibility with non-MB bottles would still be a concern, but the ridiculous price makes this a non-starter for me. If the idea resonates with the FP community I'm sure another manufacturer will find a way to imitate the mechanisms at a realistic price point. 

[marlinspike]

Saw it in person today.  I love the idea,  but not at that price. 

[JCC123]

Am I the only one who thinks this stuff is gimmicky? Are we actually better off needing all the extra junk just to fill our pen? Really? You would gladly trade what we have now which is simplicity itself with all those extra gadgets and steps needed to fill a pen? Not to mention the fact that I can see people loosing the end caps... 

[marlinspike]

3 hours ago, JCC123 said:

Am I the only one who thinks this stuff is gimmicky? Are we actually better off needing all the extra junk just to fill our pen? Really? You would gladly trade what we have now which is simplicity itself with all those extra gadgets and steps needed to fill a pen? Not to mention the fact that I can see people loosing the end caps... 

 

But you don't need the other stuff to fill the pen,  to fill the pen just needs the bottle and the pen and a 0 mess way to fill a pen is fantastic, not seen since the Snorkel.

[Lam1]

10 hours ago, JCC123 said:

Am I the only one who thinks this stuff is gimmicky? Are we actually better off needing all the extra junk just to fill our pen? Really? You would gladly trade what we have now which is simplicity itself with all those extra gadgets and steps needed to fill a pen? Not to mention the fact that I can see people loosing the end caps... 

 

It may be gimmicky, but to me it addresses one of the biggest problems I have with my 149s: filling it from any bottle that is not 100% full! It is simply a pain in the neck and, often, messy and impossible.

Besides, sometimes gimmicky can be fun. My favorite MB is the Heritage 1912, and what is that if not pure gimmicks?