100th Anniversary editions

[a student]

55 minutes ago, Seney724 said:

I really do not think this is the occasion, or the FP, for them to introduce something new and so fraught with risk of having mechanical problems until they get it perfected.

But, that's just my opinion.  Surely others will feel differently.

Yes, not clear who is the clientele for this gadget, other than the kind of collector able to afford every MB that comes up; or may be a well-heeled gadget geek?

[mulrich]

New technology should make using a product easier or provide more features. Not sure if this new filling system does either. Maybe for people who only use the pen occasionally this would be better than a piston but for anyone that uses fountain pens, I don’t see the appeal (but maybe that speaks to MBs target audience). We’ll see when real reviews start coming out. 

[kingofthehill]

The Meisterstück Origin 149 is back in stock on the Montblanc website:

 

https://www.montblanc.com/en-gb/fountain-pens_cod1647597341706334.html

 

It is also in stock through Goldsmiths and through Mappin & Webb, both of which are authorised retailers that are part of the same group:

 

https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Montblanc-Meisterstück-The-Origin-Collection-149-Fountain-Pen-Black-131336/p/38640741?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ri0BhAvEiwA8oo6F_WiDUQseExfNPhjczkRAlC3MiEmNOJ4DD0sPJ51sZj1Y9gkCxSH2xoCZvwQAvD_BwE

 

https://www.mappinandwebb.com/Montblanc-Meisterstück-The-Origin-Collection-149-Fountain-Pen-Black-131336/p/38640741

[Seney724]

36 minutes ago, kingofthehill said:

The Meisterstück Origin 149 is back in stock on the Montblanc website:

 

https://www.montblanc.com/en-gb/fountain-pens_cod1647597341706334.html

 

It is also in stock through Goldsmiths and through Mappin & Webb, both of which are authorised retailers that are part of the same group:

 

https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Montblanc-Meisterstück-The-Origin-Collection-149-Fountain-Pen-Black-131336/p/38640741?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ri0BhAvEiwA8oo6F_WiDUQseExfNPhjczkRAlC3MiEmNOJ4DD0sPJ51sZj1Y9gkCxSH2xoCZvwQAvD_BwE

 

https://www.mappinandwebb.com/Montblanc-Meisterstück-The-Origin-Collection-149-Fountain-Pen-Black-131336/p/38640741

Good to see it is available in the UK.

The Montblanc USA website still shows the pen as sold out.  Perhaps this will change sometime soon.........

[arcfide]

I like the idea of a new filling system. One of the challenges I encounter with some of the better large capacity systems that are easy to fill is the need to manually "unlock" the seal on them when writing. This was an advantage of the Diplomat Nexxus, and makes that pen quite easy to use, whereas the 823 is a joy to fill, but less fun to use since the opened end isn't as nice. The Konid pens are quite cool, but I think they too have a shut-off valve that needs to be opened to do normal writing? Also, if the filling on this pen turns out to be quite clean, that's a big advantage to me when traveling, because it means having a nice bottle fill pen that doesn't require constant tissues on hand when I refill. I write enough that I can find myself needing to refill while traveling. With larger pens, the large feed collects a lot of ink, and a lot of ink is wasted when filling, potentially. 

 

ETA: I think it would also be nice if it made it possible to use smaller bottles more readily with larger pens. A 149 can be a chore to fill from smaller bottles that aren't full if you're traveling and don't want to carry a bunch of stuff with you. That often means I'm encouraged to carry a full, large bottle of ink to go with the pen. Might be nice to have a smaller bottle with me! 

[Karmachanic]

1 hour ago, arcfide said:

With larger pens, the large feed collects a lot of ink, and a lot of ink is wasted when filling, potentially.

 

80% fill, hold pen nib up and continue to turn piston to suck ink from the feed into the barrel.

 

1 hour ago, arcfide said:

Might be nice to have a smaller bottle with me! 

 

Visconti ink well, or a 60/30 ml nalgene jar.

[arcfide]

57 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

 

80% fill, hold pen nib up and continue to turn piston to suck ink from the feed into the barrel.

 

 

Visconti ink well, or a 60/30 ml nalgene jar.

 

Filling the pen and sucking out ink from the feed can work for some pens, but not all. Some pens still leave an excessive amount of ink on the nib and within the feed even after such operations. Sailor is probably the worst offender for me, if I'm remembering it all right. 

 

The Visconti ink well is a neat product. The 30ml Nalgenes have the same problem that any small jar has, which is the difficulty in getting ink out of them if they aren't quite full if you are using large nibs like a #8 or #9. 

[Karmachanic]

42 minutes ago, arcfide said:

Sailor is probably the worst offender for me

 

Not a piston, but CC.  Syringe fill the CC and leave nib down for 30 seconds or so.  Top up the CC if you wish.  Or use the larger capacity reinforced spare cartridges.  No flooding.

 

Granted 30ml nalgene is not ideal for larger nibbed pens.  There's the 60ml bottle, but yes, that eventually will lead to the same problem.  So the Visconti.  Or two.

 

Anyway.  Back to the 100th Aniversary.  I'm happy with the standard model.  The froufrou does nothing to enhance the writing experience, and I feel no need to impress myself.

 

 

[arcfide]

1 hour ago, Karmachanic said:

Not a piston, but CC.  Syringe fill the CC and leave nib down for 30 seconds or so.  Top up the CC if you wish.  Or use the larger capacity reinforced spare cartridges.  No flooding.

 

Each of these solutions comes with trade-offs that are somewhat inconvenient. The point I was making is that the potential benefits of a new filling system as the one in the documents above are not just redundant, and that they could actually make life nicer depending on your needs by addressing many of these trade-offs. 

[Arcadian]

On 7/10/2024 at 4:32 PM, digitorum said:

A fountain pen with a quick-filling coupling is proposed, comprising a nib assembly, a housing with a main tank and a writing tank formed therein, a rotatable finial at an end of the fountain pen opposite from the nib assembly, and a coupling for placing the housing on an ink feed device, wherein a first sealing unit is arranged between the writing tank and the main tank, which first sealing unit can be selectively opened and closed for filling the writing tank via the main tank, wherein a second sealing unit is arranged between the writing tank and the nib assembly, which second sealing unit can be selectively opened and closed for supplying ink to the nib assembly, wherein a third sealing unit is arranged between the main tank and the coupling, which third sealing unit can be opened and closed for filling at least the main tank, and wherein the finial is coupled to mechanics which are configured to control the opening state of at least the first sealing unit and the second sealing unit.

 

Can you imagine trying to flush that thing when you want to change ink colors? 

 

 - P. 

[Karmachanic]

1 hour ago, arcfide said:

Each of these solutions comes with trade-offs

 

The endless search for the elusive perfection continues.   The flies have been forewarned to stay well away from the ointment. 

[digitorum- Leonardo_W]

On 7/10/2024 at 6:07 PM, Seney724 said:

I agree @digitorum

To my way of thinking, the 100th Anniversary would be a perfect occasion to celebrate the best things of the past century.  For example, wouldn't this 149 be fantastic if it had a 2024 version of the two stage telescopic filling system which makes the early, celluloid 149's (among others) so special!!

 

What a Great Idea @Seney724 ! Would love that actually 

[JCC123]

Too late guys, they've already shown you what they will release for the 100th. Clearly, the Montblanc product managers there know nothing about what their customers want. Everyone hanging out here for many years knows exactly what will sell but those execs clearly do not. They're only interested in selling to the few who will buy anything with a Montblanc logo.

[Seney724]

54 minutes ago, JCC123 said:

Too late guys, they've already shown you what they will release for the 100th. Clearly, the Montblanc product managers there know nothing about what their customers want. Everyone hanging out here for many years knows exactly what will sell but those execs clearly do not. They're only interested in selling to the few who will buy anything with a Montblanc logo.

Sad but true.  I agree 100%

[Heinkle]

A re-release of the 139 would have been nice.

[helloMB]

22 minutes ago, Heinkle said:

A re-release of the 139 would have been nice.

 

That was the Hemingway. 

[Karmachanic]

or Dumas.  Alternatively do a @zaddick and have your favorite pen turner make one for you.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/349124-tribute-to-139/?do=findComment&comment=4247528

[Heinkle]

2 hours ago, helloMB said:

 

That was the Hemingway. 

 

Sure, but that was in itself 32 years ago!

[Centurion]

On 7/11/2024 at 7:54 PM, JCC123 said:

Too late guys, they've already shown you what they will release for the 100th. Clearly, the Montblanc product managers there know nothing about what their customers want. Everyone hanging out here for many years knows exactly what will sell but those execs clearly do not. They're only interested in selling to the few who will buy anything with a Montblanc logo.

I ask this sincerely (no sarcasm), what do we consumers want in the 100th Anniversary editions? What designs and features will sell? 

[JCC123]

On 3/10/2024 at 12:56 PM, JCC123 said:

I want a striated/swirled/marbled all-resin model. No bling...

Folks have discussed what they would like to see. For example, I mentioned earlier my preference.