Pen/Ink/Paper Trios

[Bo Bo Olson]

I'm much into springy...bouncy-bouncy or even more bouncy cubed...semi-flex.

I don't know what flex rating a Visconti nib has...chasing cheap old used German pens.

 

For real bouncy-bouncy, try a '50-65 Pelikan 140/400/400nn, stubbed semi-flex. Great line variation, a bit to wet for two toned shading.

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Bouncy-bouncy might be springy regular flex (like a '82-97 400/600, or '85 to now 200....soft springy regular flex +.

Semi-flex is soft springy ++,

Maxi-semi-flex, out side of Osmai, is luck of the draw, is soft and springy +++.

 

I have some 35 semi-flex, and 15-16 maxi-semi-flex from various vintage makers. And a good slew and a half of springy regular flex.

 

I don't care much for semi-nails, but can live with them if well balanced and smooth.  Like these two P-75's the Cisele and the Thuya.

And 'hate' nails.

If there is enough tipping on a nail, I favor turning them into a CI...cursive italic, so there is some life to the line.

[Penguincollector]

  Here’s my first test on the Avery Zweckform 170gsm laser printer paper @Bo Bo Olsonsent me: I used several different pens, dip and fountain, italic and round. Forgive the lighting, it’s been difficult to work with.
 

[Bo Bo Olson]

12 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

Avery Zweckform 170gsm

....a nice selection of inks....I've had a Wahl-Eversharp on my list of pens to get for only 15 years.....but when they were affordable; as you know, US mail wasn't.

I was more than totally shocked at what a packet of paper from the US cost. 3X more than from Germany to the US.

 

Is a very, very slick, almost uncomfortable paper, that if an ink will shade, it shades on that paper. Even better than my Gmund 170g, which feels better in the writing.

I am into heavy paper...by me...120g/32# isn't heavy.

[Penguincollector]

5 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

....a nice selection of inks....I've had a Wahl-Eversharp on my list of pens to get for only 15 years.....but when they were affordable; as you know, US mail wasn't.

I was more than totally shocked at what a packet of paper from the US cost. 3X more than from Germany to the US.

 

Is a very, very slick, almost uncomfortable paper, that if an ink will shade, it shades on that paper. Even better than my Gmund 170g, which feels better in the writing.

I am into heavy paper...by me...120g/32# isn't heavy.

 

    I like heavy paper as well for writing. My local art store gave me a tiny sample notebook of watercolor paper and those fall between really nice feeling and over the top. The Avery feels very nice, I will use the second half for just shading inks to see how they turn out.
 

  I’ve started to treat what one of my pen friends calls “ ink play” as a completely different thing, more like art therapy loosely based on penmanship. The paper is different, often glossy, much thinner-  starting from 30-35 gsm like the Glassine, to about 75gsm like Iroful. There’s a hard to find paper labeled 35 NFC that was my favorite, but Yamamoto was having trouble sourcing it and discontinued carrying it. I’m also more forgiving of feathering, and treat is as an artistic effect rather than letting it spoil my fun as it does when writing. Mixing the mica powder and using dip pens adds an extra layer of fun. It’s all fountain/dip pen and ink related, but it’s less disciplined than handwriting practice, although the two do meet sometimes. 

[Penguincollector]

@Bo Bo Olson, the Wahl-Eversharp pens that I have are all very nice semi-flex. I’m not sure where they would fit into your system, but they are nice and bouncy and all very affordable even restored or at least had new sacs put in. The most expensive one was $75, cheapest was $30. 

[Bo Bo Olson]

 In the '30's like Waterman they were often superflex.

 In the '40's after Waterman stopped making superflex, so did Wahl-Eversharp. They were reputed to be semi-flex, but for the slide nibs which went from semi-flex to superflex..

In the '50's as far as I know the only American semi-flex pens were some Sheaffer Snorkels.   I had been chasing the more deluxe Shaffer Snorkels with a semi-flex nib, when a passed pall found me a maxi-semi-flex factory stubbed BB Australian Snorkel.with such a nib who needs fancy.....passed on to someone going wide. 

 

I did get an Art Decco style Lamy Persona......18k nail, made into a CI...B.

Not my picture but shows it well. Is a '91 or later to 2000, in it has a dot on the clip to prevent it from rolling off the table. Mine is a '90, with no dot on the push spring clip.

Above the Pelikan 915 Hunter Toledo.

 

[USG]

On 9/10/2024 at 11:28 AM, Penguincollector said:

 

    I like heavy paper as well for writing. My local art store gave me a tiny sample notebook of watercolor paper and those fall between really nice feeling and over the top. The Avery feels very nice, I will use the second half for just shading inks to see how they turn out.
 

  I’ve started to treat what one of my pen friends calls “ ink play” as a completely different thing, more like art therapy loosely based on penmanship. The paper is different, often glossy, much thinner-  starting from 30-35 gsm like the Glassine, to about 75gsm like Iroful. There’s a hard to find paper labeled 35 NFC that was my favorite, but Yamamoto was having trouble sourcing it and discontinued carrying it. I’m also more forgiving of feathering, and treat is as an artistic effect rather than letting it spoil my fun as it does when writing. Mixing the mica powder and using dip pens adds an extra layer of fun. It’s all fountain/dip pen and ink related, but it’s less disciplined than handwriting practice, although the two do meet sometimes. 

 

Ink play...  sounds like fun.  I don't know about feathering though 😁

How's the Mica powder doing?  Do you think it would clog a pen worse than glitter?

[USG]

On 9/10/2024 at 3:41 PM, Bo Bo Olson said:

 In the '30's like Waterman they were often superflex.

 In the '40's after Waterman stopped making superflex, so did Wahl-Eversharp. They were reputed to be semi-flex, but for the slide nibs which went from semi-flex to superflex..

In the '50's as far as I know the only American semi-flex pens were some Sheaffer Snorkels.   I had been chasing the more deluxe Shaffer Snorkels with a semi-flex nib, when a passed pall found me a maxi-semi-flex factory stubbed BB Australian Snorkel.with such a nib who needs fancy.....passed on to someone going wide. 

 

I did get an Art Decco style Lamy Persona......18k nail, made into a CI...B.

Not my picture but shows it well. Is a '91 or later to 2000, in it has a dot on the clip to prevent it from rolling off the table. Mine is a '90, with no dot on the push spring clip.

Above the Pelikan 915 Hunter Toledo.

 

 

Nice Violets BBO .  I like your Persona 👍😀  Classic looking.

 

[USG]

@Penguincollector

Gotta love that Peacock Blue ! 👍😀 

And love those little birds 🐦🐦🐦

 

Today: Green Pens

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[Mercian]

8 hours ago, USG said:

@Penguincollector

Gotta love that Peacock Blue ! 👍😀 

And love those little birds 🐦🐦🐦

 

Today: Green Pens

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Ooh!

I hope that you add photos of these pens to the ‘Green Pen Club’ thread!
Envy may be provoked 😉

[lamarax]

10 hours ago, USG said:

 

 

 

Wow, a Pelikan trifecta! JACKPOT! 🤑

 

(I love the Optima too 💚)

[Penguincollector]

11 hours ago, USG said:

 

Ink play...  sounds like fun.  I don't know about feathering though 😁

How's the Mica powder doing?  Do you think it would clog a pen worse than glitter?

 

  It’s really fun,  basically if something starts to feather on the page, I just go along with it and  turn into the skid, so to speak, and instead of writing it becomes a doodle or an interesting swatch. The mica powder is pretty, more understated than I thought it would be. I haven’t tried it in a pen yet, waiting for some of these turquoise ones to run dry before trying it out. I have a thread going about it on  Inky Thoughts , but I have to add more pictures and musings on the subject. 
 

11 hours ago, USG said:

Gotta love that Peacock Blue ! 👍😀 

And love those little birds 🐦🐦🐦

  Thanks!😊  Isn’t it a beautiful color‽ That Compact II is my widest round nib now too. I can’t decide if I want to leave it alone (I barely use it because it’s too wide) or have it stubbed or italicized. Your green birds are all lovely, and your Patrician is timeless, but so ‘90s at the same time- love it!😍 
 

 

[USG]

11 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

 

   I have a thread going about it on  Inky Thoughts , but I have to add more pictures and musings on the subject. 
 

 

LateToThePartyMe 😩, always a day late and a dollar short…. LOL, now you tell me.  
 

So, very Cool experiments.  Why did you choose tone on tone?  What happened when you mixed opposites like red and green?  I couldn’t tell, but does it light up like glitter does?  Does it change the color of the ink?

 

I’ve only experimented with Silver Shoes, which, in the bottle, has a cream colored cast, that can change the fundamental color of the ink in high concentrations.

 

Have you tried it on Cosmo Snow or Iroful to see what it’s full potential is?

 

have you tried it on black paper?  Glitter in dark ink on black paper looks like invisible ink until the light hits it the right way and illuminates the glitter.

[USG]

12 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

Your green birds are all lovely

They’re from the forum emojis.  I should have looked further.  My iPad has a large selection of birds.  It also had this….  🐧 

[Penguincollector]

8 hours ago, USG said:

They’re from the forum emojis.  I should have looked further.  My iPad has a large selection of birds.  It also had this….  🐧 

 

  I meant your Pelikans, but the emoji are also very cute. The penguin is my obvious favorite. 😆 

 

8 hours ago, USG said:

LateToThePartyMe 😩, always a day late and a dollar short…. LOL, now you tell me.  
 

So, very Cool experiments.  Why did you choose tone on tone?  What happened when you mixed opposites like red and green?  I couldn’t tell, but does it light up like glitter does?  Does it change the color of the ink?

 

I’ve only experimented with Silver Shoes, which, in the bottle, has a cream colored cast, that can change the fundamental color of the ink in high concentrations.

 

Have you tried it on Cosmo Snow or Iroful to see what it’s full potential is?

 

have you tried it on black paper?  Glitter in dark ink on black paper looks like invisible ink until the light hits it the right way and illuminates the glitter.

   While I have Silver Shoes, I have only tried it in one color with one pen  and so far, so good. The pen likes it, the recommended amount of additive is a bit less than I like, but the combination is well behaved on paper.

   Added a bit too much of the Wearingeul Emerald Castle to Herbin Lie de Thé, and while I love the aesthetics of the resulting mix, it does make it more saturated and causes the dry Herbin ink to feather when the feed is full. This could be a flex pen/feed  problem, as I didn’t notice it with the Bock stub and the same converter. 

  Wearingeul Frost doesn’t really show as blue to me, in orange ink anyway, but is very shiny and well behaved. Brain is very showy, in Sailor ink it doesn’t change the look. It’s my favorite of the Glitter Potion series so far. 
 

  Mica is less “ in your face” than the suspension potions. Maybe I can add more, but I’m starting conservatively and going from there. I started with tone on tone because it seemed interesting to me, and I have so many shimmer inks with silver or gold in them already. I have been branching out into using 2 colors of mica and will definitely post more soon, just have some Hub prep work going on with paper samples so I had to clean up my work area. I don’t have any black paper, but I know Yamamoto has some. That effect sounds really cool! 
 

 Here’s a couple of pictures of inksperiments:

 

My Ink a Day calendar page for September has a few mica inks on it:

A very pretty Sailor 2022 Pen Show/Wearingeul Brain ink blot accident from flooding the feed on my 144:

 

 

 

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

Flea market next Saturday....will then be able get at my other ink corner....and see if shake, let settle a bit and fill from the bottom works with my other four Diamine glitter inks.

We got rid of a huge 1910's dance a tango on it, sideboard, and the flea market boxes the boxes in front of it, plus new boxes  with some of the contents got moved to my room after I junked my massage chair.

Arctic Blue didn't need to wait, and glittered when filled from the top.

[Penguincollector]

I bet it will feel good to get all that stuff out of the house, @Bo Bo Olson.

[inkstainedruth]

On 9/14/2024 at 3:08 AM, USG said:

@Penguincollector

Gotta love that Peacock Blue ! 👍😀 

OOOH!  That gives me an idea -- Thanks!  Someone just gave me a very interesting looking No Nonsense with an IF nib on it and I was trying to figure out what to ink it up with (it's got a red orange barrel and a white -- or off-white -- cap with a floral design on it, and you know, Skrip Peacock might look VERY nice coming out of that pen....   (I've temporarily borrowed the converter from a different No Nonsense pen (that one has an IM nib on it) and realized in the process that I have a THIRD No Nonsense pen with a calligraphy nib AND a couple of spare nibs -- as well as a blue one lost somewhere in the house from a calligraphy set I bought a number of years ago....

So Sheaffer converters have just been added to the shopping list for OPS and/or the spreadsheet I have going of "Who's got what and for how much and what's the minimum for free shipping...."

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Penguincollector]

@inkstainedruth, that color combination sounds great!  I love orange and turquoise together, it reminds me of life in Miami. Extra converters eventually become necessary, so it helps to be prepared!

[Bo Bo Olson]

35 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

I bet it will feel good to get all that stuff out of the house,

Inks can be bought. Polish and English; there a small manufacture that looks so good for shading.

The apartment roof can wait till the last minute.