Pen/Ink/Paper Trios

[USG]

16 minutes ago, Misfit said:

@USG does the notebook maker you got perforate the paper?  Just curious. 
 

For ink testing, personally, I’d see no need to be able to cleanly remove pages. 

 

The machine punches all the holes simultaneously for what ever size paper you want to make your notebook, but it's better if you don't try to punch too many at once.  It came with a big box of twin rings that you feed the paper onto and then it compresses the rings with a press.  The pages are non-removable like on any twin ring notebook.  The ring system is the same as on a Nmemosyne notebook. 

[Claes]

@USG

Your binder mechanism looks like consisting of double metal rings?

If so, how do you open them up to insert new sheets?

 

I use Kokuyo Campus Slide Binders plus a 20 hole Carl Punch, to make it possible to insert my own sheets into the binder. It is not as sturdy as a metal mechanism, but sufficient for my use.

 

Ref:

https://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Campus-Smart-Ring-Biz-Binder-Notebook-A5-20-Rings-Black/pd/26773

https://www.jetpens.com/Carl-Gauge-20-Hole-Punch-A5-Blue/pd/18337

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

[Mechanical]

Of course, I have favorite pens and favorite inks and favorite papers. 

 

Notwithstanding, one of my favorite things is Platinum Carbon Black ink in a Japanese pen with an extra fine nib.  The very small nib gives an extra level of precision to lines made with Carbon Black -- and the line itself goes down very black.  Looking at the text later, it feels completely robust and readable, with high contrast.  This ink has a gracious lubrication that makes an XF nib work on a range of paper.  Delightful!

 

[USG]

12 hours ago, Claes said:

@USG

Your binder mechanism looks like consisting of double metal rings?

If so, how do you open them up to insert new sheets?

 

I use Kokuyo Campus Slide Binders plus a 20 hole Carl Punch, to make it possible to insert my own sheets into the binder. It is not as sturdy as a metal mechanism, but sufficient for my use.

 

Ref:

https://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Campus-Smart-Ring-Biz-Binder-Notebook-A5-20-Rings-Black/pd/26773

https://www.jetpens.com/Carl-Gauge-20-Hole-Punch-A5-Blue/pd/18337

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

Hi Claes

 

I looked at that solution but what I wanted was a thin notebook like the Apica Blank Cover Twin Ring Notebook, unlined in A5,  but with Tomoe River, Iroful and Cosmo Snow paper.  I couldn't find it anywhere so I decided to make my own notebooks.  It turned out that making notebooks was fun so it's now part of my hobby. 😀👍

 

1 hour ago, Mechanical said:

Of course, I have favorite pens and favorite inks and favorite papers. 

 

Notwithstanding, one of my favorite things is Platinum Carbon Black ink in a Japanese pen with an extra fine nib.  The very small nib gives an extra level of precision to lines made with Carbon Black -- and the line itself goes down very black.  Looking at the text later, it feels completely robust and readable, with high contrast.  This ink has a gracious lubrication that makes an XF nib work on a range of paper.  Delightful!

 

 

That looks interesting. I've been on the lookout for a very black ink for my EF pens.   I haven't had a Platinum ink in a long time.  The last one was Blue Black a long time ago.  You said the ink was lubricated, how's the flow? 

[USG]

@Bo Bo Olson  Some unexpected sheening from non-sheening inks

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[Penguincollector]

1 hour ago, USG said:

Which glitter do you like the best?

 

  I haven’t made up my mind yet. I like Brain (rose gold) in some inks, and Emerald Castle is dramatic in brown. Frost is pretty, but I thought it would be a tiny bit more blue. I just used the Silver Shoes for the first time in the Tanzanite. I just bought some mica powder and am going to try adding some to ink soon.

 My husband was fascinated by the idea of a notebook machine. I might ask him for one soon. What kind did you buy?

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

4001 Brilliant Green was a once favorite ink of mine**. I may have a few drops left.

IFrom a nice poster I'll have some Japanese paper coming.

A 1/4th of a fill, with hopes a third....and I don't have a Snorkel anymore.

 

** A 1/2 a bottle of 4001 brilliant green was on sale at a shop I seldom enter.....and that was back in the days of my ....who in the world needs a green ink....and I had started chasing purple.

4001 brilliant green shaded. That year from summer to summer I bought 19 green-greenish inks; now have 23...I think.

 

Everyone on the com hated lively green inks....yammering constantly they wanted dull Diamine Sherwood Forest or Pine Forest; or dark, dull, non shading ink they finally got.

 

I was able to give dull lifeless 4001 dark green away; had I not, I'd tossed it down the sink....it was a dull lifeless color that didn't shade; and the ink bottle is a good one. Good enough to save for other inks.

 

For those who like lively green-green inks that shade. R&K Verdura (@€10) beat MB (bought at €15, now €23Irish Green by a nose, and discontinued Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Green (then @ €4.50) by a neck.

 

[Mechanical]

12 hours ago, USG said:

That looks interesting. I've been on the lookout for a very black ink for my EF pens.   I haven't had a Platinum ink in a long time.  The last one was Blue Black a long time ago.  You said the ink was lubricated, how's the flow? 

@USG, the flow is ample.  No hard starts and I’m getting out plenty of ink with each stroke.  

 

This is the first time I’ve had it in a see-through pen and what surprised me is how viscous this ink looks in the reservoir.  Or maybe not viscous, but rather very high surface tension (?), I’m not sure.  When you rotate the pen and watch the ink slosh up and down, it barely wants to move, perceptibly “clinging” on to the walls of the converter.  But still it flows readily out the nib and  puts down a wet line on the page.  I’m using it in a Pilot Kaküno.  

 

I do kind of wonder if it wouldn’t flow too much in a broader or wetter nib.  Haven’t tried that yet.    

[lamarax]

 

This thing will write on anything! Next time I'll try with a thermal paper receipt 😅

 

NB: the ink has not oxidized fully when I took the picture

[Bo Bo Olson]

Looks brown, not black to my screen. And it shades.

[lamarax]

It's rather brown-pinkish. Please excuse my crappy photography. Supposedly when fully oxidized (it's an iron gall ink) it turns to near black, but I've yet to see that happen on a variety of different papers.

Maybe I've not been patient enough 🙂

[Bo Bo Olson]

Richard Binder wrote a BB will turn darker in a day...often takes three.  (So am implying an IG ink might be like the IG ESSR.)

I did a Ransom Bucket 17 nib, 17 paper test of ESSR. Some papers turned sooner, others later. One paper didn't change at all. ESSR went on blue, and on some papers one could see it darken by the time one was at the bottm of the page. One day, three days and on one or two 4-5 days to change to a near black.

[lamarax]

Here it is on Iroful; I think it shows better:

 

 

Never mind the Greek 😛

[USG]

14 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

4001 Brilliant Green was a once favorite ink of mine**. I may have a few drops left.

IFrom a nice poster I'll have some Japanese paper coming.

A 1/4th of a fill, with hopes a third....and I don't have a Snorkel anymore.

 

** A 1/2 a bottle of 4001 brilliant green was on sale at a shop I seldom enter.....and that was back in the days of my ....who in the world needs a green ink....and I had started chasing purple.

4001 brilliant green shaded. That year from summer to summer I bought 19 green-greenish inks; now have 23...I think.

 

Everyone on the com hated lively green inks....yammering constantly they wanted dull Diamine Sherwood Forest or Pine Forest; or dark, dull, non shading ink they finally got.

 

I was able to give dull lifeless 4001 dark green away; had I not, I'd tossed it down the sink....it was a dull lifeless color that didn't shade; and the ink bottle is a good one. Good enough to save for other inks.

 

For those who like lively green-green inks that shade. R&K Verdura (@€10) beat MB (bought at €15, now €23Irish Green by a nose, and discontinued Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Green (then @ €4.50) by a neck.

 

 

I think you'll find that a lot of your vintage inks that have condensed over the years will sheen on Iroful paper.  Cosmo Snow is whiter but because it's discontinued is getting hard to find.  😀👍

 

10 hours ago, Mechanical said:

@USG, the flow is ample.  No hard starts and I’m getting out plenty of ink with each stroke.  

 

This is the first time I’ve had it in a see-through pen and what surprised me is how viscous this ink looks in the reservoir.  Or maybe not viscous, but rather very high surface tension (?), I’m not sure.  When you rotate the pen and watch the ink slosh up and down, it barely wants to move, perceptibly “clinging” on to the walls of the converter.  But still it flows readily out the nib and  puts down a wet line on the page.  I’m using it in a Pilot Kaküno.  

 

I do kind of wonder if it wouldn’t flow too much in a broader or wetter nib.  Haven’t tried that yet.    

 

I've see exactly what you're describing.  Sometimes those inks that are stuck in the converter, don't want to come out of the nib and write on the paper band when they do, they end up spreading and feathering  (Robert Oster Australis Oak comes to mind)....  Is it because they're "wet" inks?  I'm still having a lot of trouble understanding "high surface tension", "viscous" and "wet inks".

 

2 hours ago, lamarax said:

Here it is on Iroful; I think it shows better:

 

 

Never mind the Greek 😛

 

I'm jealous that you can write so nicely in two languages. 😀👍

OTOH, we don't mind Greek, we have the Google Translate app. 👍😀

 

[USG]

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[Lithium466]

12 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Richard Binder wrote a BB will turn darker in a day...often takes three.  (So am implying an IG ink might be like the IG ESSR.)

I did a Ransom Bucket 17 nib, 17 paper test of ESSR. Some papers turned sooner, others later. One paper didn't change at all. ESSR went on blue, and on some papers one could see it darken by the time one was at the bottm of the page. One day, three days and on one or two 4-5 days to change to a near black.

Paper is a factor, and the content of gallic acid. Apparently IG (should they be named ferro-tannate?) that rely mostly on tannic acid (like regular Platinum blue black) won't darken much (and indeed Platinum BB stays pretty blue). 

I don't think the Platinum classic black use the same formula as their standard BB, how is the lubrication of these inks? (Standard BB is pretty good for that).

[Penguincollector]

12 hours ago, lamarax said:

Here it is on Iroful; I think it shows better:

 

 

Never mind the Greek 😛

  Your handwriting is lovely, and somehow looks even better in Greek. I love how Iroful brings out the colors and the way the ink shades on the paper. 

[lamarax]

16 hours ago, USG said:

 

OTOH, we don't mind Greek, we have the Google Translate app. 👍😀

 

 

I was astonished (and embarrassed) to discover that Google lens is indeed able to pick up my scribbling and (quasi) translate it 😅

 

6 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

  Your handwriting is lovely, and somehow looks even better in Greek. I love how Iroful brings out the colors and the way the ink shades on the paper. 

 

You are very kind, thank you! I don't think my handwriting has anything to er... write about ☺️ Maybe it's somewhat expressionistic, but one can't call it 'good' 🙂

Iroful I find, is second only to Graphilo in showing the true properties of (most) inks, but it feels a bit sluggish/muddy to me, especially with dry inks such as the above.

[inkstainedruth]

@Lithium466 I have not tried Platinum Blue Black, so I don't know how the Platinum Classic inks compare.  I really like Platinum Classic Lavender Black and Platinum Classic Forest Black.  Both are a little on the drier side but do flow okay, and I love the colors (I literally walked around Fountain Pen Hospital for something like 20 minutes with a bottle of the MB Beatles ink in my hand, one Christmastime in NYC -- then put it back and got a bottle of Lavender Black instead ).  

Just looked up my tests/reviews of Lavender Black and Forest Black.  Both have faded somewhat (the paper isn't the best) and haven't really blackened.  Forest Black is still green and has a lot of shading.  Lavender Black is more of a rusty orange color at this point, with some shading (but not nearly as much as I saw with Forest Black) and in my notes said it wasn't as dry as other IG inks I've tried; it also went down more pink-leaning, but I didn't remember that until I looked at my notes for both inks, which of course are from several years ago at this point.

I have a sample of their Sepia Black but haven't tried it yet.

sRuth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[USG]

Tomoe River SN 68gsm

Pen Shown:  Waterman Patrician (M)

Ink: Pelikan 4001 Brillant Braun

The 4001 Brillant Braun was written with a Pelikan M1000 (F) but the Pelikan was green and didn't match the ink so I put the Patrician in the pic.  👍

 

New Notebook.