Pen/Ink/Paper Trios

[Penguincollector]

@USG, that’s a perfect example of how I want to utilize this thread. I want to see the process, I guess. I want to know what works and what doesn’t for people, because combinations are infinite, and the ability to know off the bat that certain pens like or don’t like a certain ink or paper might come in handy.  
  
  @Misfit, this is a good example of something that may not work for you. If you really wanted to, you could try a pencil board or blotter paper underneath, but since you like the multi-pens and pencils, that cute notepad might go well with one of those instruments ( or an EF, but that’s not really your style). Thanks for compliments on my Namiki, it’s a jewel of a pen, truly. 💙Pal!

@Bo Bo Olson I do love larger nibs on laid paper, one of my favorite combinations is an M Parker “51” on Crane kid finish. When I run some more pens dry I will dig that out and some wider nibs. I’ve been on an EF kick as of late, so I need to pick more appropriate paper. I did use up the last bit of space on that A5 Kin Kaku Den with an italic broad Parker Vector inked with Penman Sapphire, and that’s a great combination.

 

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

That IB is a very nice nib.

[Penguincollector]

5 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

That IB is a very nice nib.

 Thank you! It’s a very good introductory calligraphy set made by Luxor under license from Parker. 

[AmandaW]

I haved used an A4 Clairefontaine notebook as a journal every day for years. Pen and ink change every day, so there isn't a trio.

 

We do have Penguin Island.

https://www.penguinisland.com.au/#welcome-1

[Penguincollector]

35 minutes ago, AmandaW said:

I haved used an A4 Clairefontaine notebook as a journal every day for years. Pen and ink change every day, so there isn't a trio.

 

We do have Penguin Island.

https://www.penguinisland.com.au/#welcome-1

   I want to go there sooo badly!  You also have so many parrots!  I would make friends with all the toos. 
 

    Is there a combination of pen and ink that was memorable in any way in your Clairefontaine notebooks?

[yubaprof]

On 2/9/2024 at 2:20 AM, Bo Bo Olson said:

If I pull out my right extension board of my desk, there is one of each, under my back scratcher and long shoehorn.

Bobo, you have both a back scratcher and a long shoehorn? I use my long shoehorn as a back scratcher and a shoehorn. It serves just as well and now you will have one less thing to look for when you want it. It will be right there in the shoe horn!

[InesF]

On 2/7/2024 at 5:00 PM, Penguincollector said:

[...] that’s precisely what I would like to see, members posting on what they are using and how they feel about the interaction between all three items.

[...]

OK! Challenge accepted!  

 

On 2/8/2024 at 3:13 PM, Bo Bo Olson said:

[...] Clairefontaine Triomphe 90g. is a slick fine paper [...]

Indeed, that's also one of my favourites, closely followed by Fritz Schimpf Schreibblock, Gohrsmühle A4 white letter, Bogner A4 letter, Yamamoto A4 white letter, Kyome A4 letter pad 70gsm (the 80 gsm is worse!), Neusiedler Japan Post 80gsm, ... and ca. 10 more, some of them pulled out from a school notebook.    

[InesF]

On 2/9/2024 at 11:20 AM, Bo Bo Olson said:

If I pull out my right extension board of my desk, there is one of each, under my back scratcher and long shoehorn.

What a lovely place to write with pen and ink - envy is knocking at my door!

Perhaps we should also evaluate the writing desk in addition to the paper-pen-ink trio?  

[InesF]

20 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

B or M nibs are normally quite good on 'bumpy'....or onclassic rough papers like  laid or linen effect.

I fully agree with you but would add that the ink is a critical factor for success. For such paper types I would use a "dry" ink only (one with a surface tension above 60, maybe above 65 mN/m). At least that's what works for me to still having crisp and well defined lines.

But I also use EF nibs on such papers (because it is fun, sometimes) with an ink with lower surface tension. However, the lines are never so well defined and sharp.

[Bo Bo Olson]

4 hours ago, yubaprof said:

you will have one less thing to look for when you want it.

A shoehorn don't have that curved fingery part, to dig into this or that out of reach back part.

When you get old, you need the fingery part more than when young..... I can still reach all parts of my back, but a couple shirts really slows it down, compared to reaching down the back of my neck into the itching zone.

[Bo Bo Olson]

2 hours ago, InesF said:

(one with a surface tension above 60, maybe above 65 mN/m).

Wheeee, I am out of date with this..............

[USG]

On 2/11/2024 at 4:04 AM, Misfit said:

@Penguincollector This is a great new thread. I won’t be sharing my daily writing, since it’s personal. It’s the same paper, different pens and inks. I’ll try to come up with something to share some day. I have some paper from my gel pen and ballpoint days that are tinted.  I’ll have to try some of those to see how they work with fountain pens.

 

That origami penguin pen is so very cool. Congratulations my buddy. 
 

Ok, like @InesF I couldn’t wait. The information is in the image. I tend to write with a lighter touch, which would work with this notepad. When I tested the nib on a different sheet writing x several times, I saw show through. So at the end I wrote with more pressure, and it bled through. 
 

The pen material was discontinued by F-C after I first saw a pen photo here with this color. I was lucky to see this pen on their website when I did. It’s the same brown I admired.  I was happy to get a pen in this material. It uses a #5 nib. All my other Franklin-Christoph pens have #6 nibs. 
 

 

+1 😀

 

23 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

B or M nibs are normally quite good on 'bumpy'....or onclassic rough papers like  laid or linen effect.

 

I dug out some B nibbed pens in a vain attempt to find glitter from glitter ink that is not dark gray....I don't have glitter in black, in my half bottle of 4001 is only 16 years old. Being retired means I don't need black ink. Though I've read here, there is now shading black inks.

 

+1  but I'm not sure what you're doing with the glitter?

 

[USG]

Continuing from yesterday.....

2 pens, 2 inks 1 paper

 

Pelikan M800 (M)

Diamine Polar Glow

Iroful 75gsm

 

Jinhao X159 (M)

Organics Studio Nitrogen

Iroful 75gsm

 

I had recently refilled the Pelikan and at first it seem to hard start but after the ink settled in, it didn't happen any more... The Nitrogen however, displayed the same hard start it had the other day, requiring more pressure on the nib to get a solid line. Both inks are very similar in color and sheen. The Iroful paper has the same soft feel as the Cosmo Snow.

 

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[Bo Bo Olson]

2 hours ago, USG said:

what you're doing with the glitter?

Ignore it..........the only one I see glitter in of the five with out tilting the page,  is Herbin Stormy Gray.

 

Tropical Glow is a lively shading  ink to use.

 

I don't see how to drain the ink and scrape off the glitter in the bottom........yes...drain the ink bottle very slowly three or four times (with long glitter settling waits in between)  and find out which of the other two...which is gold......Brandy Dazel or Lilic Satin, will be least effected with the touch of blue that must remain.  thinking Lilic can handle the drops of blue best. But is it gold?? Double up the glitter. Well realistic...add 1/2 more.

 

Perhaps I should write Diamine and ask for a couple packages of glitter, to pep up their inks. ...That sound's best from a lazy man's point of view.

[txomsy]

Most of the time I write on Miquelrius or Rhodia pocket notebooks (80gsm ones), and so far they worked well with practically all inks and pens (would have to go back through them to find if any combination failed).

 

Memorables? BSB fully outshines on these papers, even with a flex nib. And OS Nitrogen/Diamine Skull & Roses sheen beautifully, even with an EF nib.

[Bo Bo Olson]

3 hours ago, txomsy said:

Miquelrius or Rhodia pocket notebooks (80gsm ones)

I don't know Miquelrius.

My Rhoda is the 90g block, not the 80g, that some like more than the 90g. I've not tried the 80g.

[Penguincollector]

13 hours ago, InesF said:

I fully agree with you but would add that the ink is a critical factor for success. For such paper types I would use a "dry" ink only (one with a surface tension above 60, maybe above 65 mN/m). At least that's what works for me to still having crisp and well defined lines.

But I also use EF nibs on such papers (because it is fun, sometimes) with an ink with lower surface tension. However, the lines are never so well defined and sharp.

  This is good to know, as my larger nibbed pens tend to be wet writers that I pair with dry inks.

 

13 hours ago, InesF said:

OK! Challenge accepted!  

 

Indeed, that's also one of my favourites, closely followed by Fritz Schimpf Schreibblock, Gohrsmühle A4 white letter, Bogner A4 letter, Yamamoto A4 white letter, Kyome A4 letter pad 70gsm (the 80 gsm is worse!), Neusiedler Japan Post 80gsm, ... and ca. 10 more, some of them pulled out from a school notebook.    

  Awesome- more papers to find and try! I also still have plenty of paper left from school, much of it was made in Japan.  You are welcome to post as much as you like, it’s fascinating. 
 

7 hours ago, txomsy said:

Most of the time I write on Miquelrius or Rhodia pocket notebooks (80gsm ones), and so far they worked well with practically all inks and pens (would have to go back through them to find if any combination failed).

 

Memorables? BSB fully outshines on these papers, even with a flex nib. And OS Nitrogen/Diamine Skull & Roses sheen beautifully, even with an EF nib.

 

  I only have the Jordi Labanda Miquelrius spriral bound school notebooks, but I love the paper texture. I will try some OS and Diamine sheeners in those to see how they look. 
 

Here’s today’s trio: Private Reserve Pearlescent Blue-Silver in a self stubbed inexpensive piston pen on MUJI double wire bound plain notebook paper. On the front, it feathered and spread badly, but was well behaved on the reverse side. This ink is one of my favorites because it’s so saturated with shimmer, yet wet and not cloggy.

 

[USG]

Messing around with a few pens and inks on Cosmo Snow Paper:

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[Penguincollector]

  @USG- That Bilberry makes me want to dig out my sample, that gold sheen! That vintage OMAS Sepia is such a pretty ink. 
 

  Here’s my daily contribution, I’ve been really digging this inexpensive Chinese exclusive Schneider school pen. The mystery cartridge it’s inked with shows up as a different color on every paper that I have used it on. In my 366 inks in 366 days journal, it shows up as grey, on MUJI it looks grey/brown in some lighting, black in others.

[InesF]

Here the pen/ink/paper combo of today. To be precise: it is the pen + ink of the whole February and only the paper of today.

Pen: Pineider Arco Desert Beetle EF

Ink: Colorverse Crab Nebula

Paper: Neusiedler Japan Post 70gsm (residual stock from 1970)

Text: first chapter of "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" from The Blue Fairy Book by Andrew Lang.

 

 

What's so special about this combo?

The Pineider pen is so-so, quite OK but not great. It combines well with the Colorverse ink but struggles to deliver a fine sharp edged line on paper with rough surface. The EF nib is a real EF and soft with a tiny bit line width but with remarkable ink delivery variation, resulting in unsteady line appearance on rough paper types. This Neusiedler has a smooth surface - but even here it is difficult to keep the line at constant colour intensity. This is my daily challenge, still not mastered it!