Pen/Ink/Paper Trios

[Claes]

What I remember from the Parker Penman era is that

the ink was so highly saturated that it never really dried...

It would smudge for ages.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

Good to know Claes. I missed that having spent 40 years in the BP desert.

 

After sitting mostly in the back of a drawer,for five-ten years, my silver P-75 set served a 30 year sentence in my wife's' jewelry jail.

[USG]

1 hour ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Some 10-12 years ago someone nice sent me a pack of Penmann Sapphire cartridges.

 

It was a nice enough blue, but nothing else. No Sheen. I tried it again this year. Needle filled. I have one cartridge left.

In a cartridge it is easy to get to the original color, in one stops a hair under the end.

For bottles if unopened...fill up.

But if opened, one had to call on The Forgotten Memory Department, to do a WAG.

 

Or one could slowly add water by the ml until it 'looks normal' to other folk's scans.

 

Back in the day of Penmann, no one, or few cleaned their pens**....so Penmann caused the pen to gunk up....and have problems. From what I read about Penmann, that was part of the reason. Everyone was sending intheir parkers for repair.

 

** I remember coming here and reading about having to clean pens ....and I'd never done that ever in the late '50-mid 60's.

 

In the ink section, there is a section for Alchemists, perhaps you can ask there.

 

BBO is right, back in the day, we didn't routinely clean pens unless we were changing ink colors.  The only experience I remember with Penman Sapphire was in my Doufold and I don't recall any problems with the ink.  My impression was that the ink was a dark concentrated Turquoise and not the true blue color everyone was raving about.  I tried it for a while, didn't think it was so great and washed it out (that's when I discovered it was a turquoise).  Then I tried the Ruby, Emerald and the the Mocha.  I wasn't a fan of the red-black (my term) or the green-black (my term)  but the brown-black, Mocha clicked.  I tried it in a few pens and it found a home in a Pelikan M600 'F' for years.  Went through a couple of bottles. Never cleaned the pen and never had a clog.

 

1 hour ago, Claes said:

What I remember from the Parker Penman era is that

the ink was so highly saturated that it never really dried...

It would smudge for ages.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

 

Hi Claes, I don't remember it smudging or not drying.  🤷‍♂️

[Claes]

Hi, Way West!

 

W-e-l-l, it might of course be because of what paper I used in those days.

Hmmmmm. Sounds as if I have to excavate one of the old bottles to revive

the behaviour...

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

[USG]

53 minutes ago, Claes said:

Hi, Way West!

 

W-e-l-l, it might of course be because of what paper I used in those days.

Hmmmmm. Sounds as if I have to excavate one of the old bottles to revive

the behaviour...

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

Could definitely be the paper... 😃

[Claes]

@USG

So I made a swift test using Parker Penman Sapphire and a glass nib...

Ink extremely wet, it penetrated onto the back of the test sheet immediately.

A test blob dried to a flat/matte surface (like a gouache paint, as opposed to

a watercolour paint). After one minute I dragged a dry sheet from a kitchen

roll across the blob -- and some blue was transferred onto that dry sheet.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

[Penguincollector]

Today I wrote with my TWSBI Eco 1.1 mm stub nib; inked with De Atramentis Columbia Blue-Copper. I used a precious sheet of Glassine paper, made by Nippon Paper Company. I ordered some more, and am super excited about it.

 

[Anne-Sophie]

49 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

Today I wrote with my TWSBI Eco 1.1 mm stub nib; inked with De Atramentis Columbia Blue-Copper. I used a precious sheet of Glassine paper, made by Nippon Paper Company. I ordered some more, and am super excited about it.

 

 

The trio looks gorgeous!

 

Thank you for telling us about the paper.

 

Art stores have glassine paper, but I suspect that this one is missing the shiny coating.

 

Does it feel like tracing paper?

 

 

[USG]

 

21 hours ago, Claes said:

@USG

So I made a swift test using Parker Penman Sapphire and a glass nib...

Ink extremely wet, it penetrated onto the back of the test sheet immediately.

A test blob dried to a flat/matte surface (like a gouache paint, as opposed to

a watercolour paint). After one minute I dragged a dry sheet from a kitchen

roll across the blob -- and some blue was transferred onto that dry sheet.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

Back in the day the pen i used was a Parker Duofold with a medium nib.  I was using AmPad Gold Fibre paper. What I remember about the ink was that it had OK flow and lubrication similar to many other inks at the time. My Penman Sapphire was not noticeably wet, did not feather, did not penetrate the paper and I did not notice any smudging like I did with Levenger Cobalt.   I can't account for our widely divergent impressions.

 

What paper did you use?   Where did you buy your Penman Sapphire? 

 

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4 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

Today I wrote with my TWSBI Eco 1.1 mm stub nib; inked with De Atramentis Columbia Blue-Copper. I used a precious sheet of Glassine paper, made by Nippon Paper Company. I ordered some more, and am super excited about it.

 

 

Ah ha, so that's what Glassine looks like.  Can't wait to try it myself.  Thanks for the heads up. 😀👍  Nice handwriting btw 😀

 

FWIW, I didn't see any shimmer in my sample of Columbia Blue Copper.  Do you have any Kyanite du Nepal?

[Claes]

>What paper did you use?   Where did you buy your Penman Sapphire? 

 

Paper: sheet intended for Siemens PT88 🙂

Buy? Got all of them as a gift when the local pen store closed down, about 30 years ago.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

 

 

[USG]

15 minutes ago, Claes said:

>What paper did you use?   Where did you buy your Penman Sapphire? 

 

Paper: sheet intended for Siemens PT88 🙂

Buy? Got all of them as a gift when the local pen store closed down, about 30 years ago.

 

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

 

 

 

 

 

Seems authentic enough. Did you try it 30 years ago?  Did it have the same characteristics?

[Claes]

According to my rusty memory it smudged like **** (for that reason the bottles are more or less untouched...).

 

[USG]

A second attempt at making Periwinkle by mixing Turquoise and Purple (Robert Oster Blue River and vintage Waterman Purple) with a splash of Wearingeul glitter

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[USG]

Jun Lai 630  (M)

Diamine Upon a Star

Iroful paper

This ink looks like it shades and and outlines.

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[USG]

On 5/20/2024 at 2:51 PM, USG said:

A second attempt at making Periwinkle by mixing Turquoise and Purple (Robert Oster Blue River and vintage Waterman Purple) with a splash of Wearingeul glitter

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APPARENTLY iMGUR IS NOT RELIABLE

 

The color is somewhere between these two

 

[USG]

 

Today's Trio :

Sailor 1911L (M)

Sailor Manyo Yamabuki

Iroful paper 75gsm

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[Penguincollector]

  Today’s trio, one of a few, but I forgot to photograph the earlier ones.

Paper: Miquelrius Jordi LaBanda Street Style notebook, circa 2010

Pen: LAMY 2000 EF 

Ink: Diamine Purple Bow

 

[USG]

2 hours ago, Penguincollector said:

  Today’s trio, one of a few, but I forgot to photograph the earlier ones.

Paper: Miquelrius Jordi LaBanda Street Style notebook, circa 2010

Pen: LAMY 2000 EF 

Ink: Diamine Purple Bow

 

 

Nice PGC 😀👍....  You have so many nice notebooks...😀👍

I'll join you.....

 

Same pen, Lamy 2K OM nib

Private Reserve American Blue

Optik Paper (of course I spelled it wrong 🤪 LOL)

 

[Penguincollector]

6 minutes ago, USG said:

 

Nice PGC 😀👍....  You have so many nice notebooks...😀👍

I'll join you.....

 

Same pen, Lamy 2K OM nib

Private Reserve American Blue

Optik Paper

 

  Thanks, I do have a too many nice notebooks. I’ll be shopping my stash until at least July, maybe. I need to stop saving them and enjoy them.
 Love that blue 💙; I’m going to ink up a few Parkers for the next few ink tests after I run some pens down, one is getting American Blue, another a Monteverde PPS dupe recipe, and then a Pilot is getting the Iroshizuku PPS dupe recipe.

 

[USG]

As long as I have the Optik paper out....

Some of the Pens in front of me....

*The Robert Oster Blue River is a Mix of Blue River and Waterman purple and Wearingeul glitter.

 

Some show through from the front of the page

 

Some show through from the front of the page

 

 

 

Some show through from the front of the page