EFNIR: Platinum Red

[InesF]

15 hours ago, LizEF said:

[Spouse comes home to find the couch replaced by storage cabinets.] "Um, honey, what's going on?"

 

"I needed more room for storage.  It was either you or the couch, and I love you more, so the couch had to go."

 

[Spouse is left speechless and wondering how much the therapist will cost.]

Thank you for making Wednesday special, as well. 

[LizEF]

8 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

it was too hot and humid for me to want to ... do much of anything ELSE outside;

I know how that goes!  Some summers are worse than others.

 

8 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Sadly, I've had the thing almost 3 years now, and all that's happened is that I bought new knobs for it.

Our time goes in cycles and sometimes other things are more important or necessary.  Don't beat yourself up.  When the time is right, you'll do it!.  I've noticed that hardware stores don't have near the stock in the store that they used to.  Even of nuts, bolts, screws, and washers.  A lot of that, you have to find online anymore - very annoying.

 

Best wishes!

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, InesF said:

Thank you for making Wednesday special, as well. 

You're very welcome!

[arcfide]

As someone who basically does not write with reds, I don't really find the "standard reds" of the various makers that objectionable, though I would agree with others that the Waterman Audacious Red is probably the most saturated and "solid" of the bunch that might qualify as standard reds (vs. hyper-saturated boutique inks, burgundies, dark reds, and other varieties). 

 

I like this red for the fact that it seems *extremely* well behaved for a red ink, both in and out of the pen. I can't say that about even my Waterman inks, and especially not the Diamine reds that I have. It may compare well against Pelikan's Red as far as behavior goes. 

 

The downside is that all the red inks I have tested in the standard set have been very "fungible". 

[LizEF]

8 hours ago, arcfide said:

As someone who basically does not write with reds, I don't really find the "standard reds" of the various makers that objectionable, though I would agree with others that the Waterman Audacious Red is probably the most saturated and "solid" of the bunch that might qualify as standard reds (vs. hyper-saturated boutique inks, burgundies, dark reds, and other varieties). 

 

I like this red for the fact that it seems *extremely* well behaved for a red ink, both in and out of the pen. I can't say that about even my Waterman inks, and especially not the Diamine reds that I have. It may compare well against Pelikan's Red as far as behavior goes. 

 

The downside is that all the red inks I have tested in the standard set have been very "fungible". 

Thank you for sharing your experience, @arcfide!   I think the Waterman red is the one I've used most and don't recall it being any worse in behavior than this ink, but it's been a while....

[inkstainedruth]

I'll admit that I'm EXTREMELY picky about red inks.  I have Audacious Red in a pen that I had restored at the Ohio Pen Show over the weekend, and the color is not really to my liking (it's a little orange/brown leaning for my taste).  I suspect that this one would also be a bit too orange for me.  

My benchmark for "red" is Diamine Classic Red -- because it doesn't lean pink or orange or brown, is bright and eye popping, and is RED: smack in the middle of the spectrum red; fire engine red; red the color of my first car (a 1984 Dodge Omni and the color was called "Graphic Red").

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Sailor Kenshin]

59 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

I'll admit that I'm EXTREMELY picky about red inks.  I have Audacious Red in a pen that I had restored at the Ohio Pen Show over the weekend, and the color is not really to my liking (it's a little orange/brown leaning for my taste).  I suspect that this one would also be a bit too orange for me.  

My benchmark for "red" is Diamine Classic Red -- because it doesn't lean pink or orange or brown, is bright and eye popping, and is RED: smack in the middle of the spectrum red; fire engine red; red the color of my first car (a 1984 Dodge Omni and the color was called "Graphic Red").

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

But does it shade 'n' sheen?  😜

[amberleadavis]

I love this ink.  I always think of @inkstainedruth.

[Lithium466]

1 hour ago, inkstainedruth said:

I'll admit that I'm EXTREMELY picky about red inks.  

I'm with you and this one!

 

It seems many "classic" red use Eosin as base dye, which comes in Y (yellowish) version (think Pelikan 4001 brilliant red and maybe this Platinum) and B (bluish), like maybe Waterman Audacious red.

Various concentrations and mix of both can make for many variations of course. 
 

I know nothing about dies, and I don't know if it really is Eosin that is responsible for it, but I noticed many of my reds darkening when dry, like Diamine Poppy red, or Wild Strawberry, or even Waterman Audacious red.

I have a very very old bottle of Waterman that turned brown, a bit like blood would do when drying/oxydizing.

I would also swear my Diamine Wild Strawberry darkened in the bottle in the year or so I had it, and I was about to say the same thing about Diamine Poppy red, but I received a fresh bottle from Diamine directly yesterday, and it's just as dark as my old bottle...darker than what I saw online led me to think 😱

 

Back to this Platinum "red", it's quite disappointing, especially after the punchy and more saturated Platinum pink (an ink worth trying if you can)! Like Lamy red, maybe by letting it evaporate it would be less wimpy, more sheen...although maybe that ink would then call herself Sailor Irori 😂 

Still, an immense thank you to @LizEF for the once again fantastic review!

 

(I have to note that my batch of Platinum red is quite wet and almost dripped from my CH 912 WA)

[LizEF]

18 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

Still, an immense thank you to @LizEF for the once again fantastic review!

You're very welcome!

 

18 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

(I have to note that my batch of Platinum red is quite wet and almost dripped from my CH 912 WA)

Thank you!  (Always nice to have additional data on these things.)

[Lithium466]

8 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Thank you!  (Always nice to have additional data on these things.)

I since inked a Moonman/Majohn A2 (very dry nib) with it and it seems wet there too. I'm having a hard time judging, but if I have to compare, wetter and less lubricated than Platinum blue-black that was in the pen before.

 

The (relative) lack of lubrication of Platinum red kind of disappointed me initially, after Platinum black and blue black!

Back to the "wetness", I had already noticed big variations in Platinum cartridges...and it's easy to know (or imagine) they are from different batches as they print a date on them  

[LizEF]

28 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

I since inked a Moonman/Majohn A2 (very dry nib) with it and it seems wet there too. I'm having a hard time judging, but if I have to compare, wetter and less lubricated than Platinum blue-black that was in the pen before.

Thank you!

 

28 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

The (relative) lack of lubrication of Platinum red kind of disappointed me initially, after Platinum black and blue black!

Back to the "wetness", I had already noticed big variations in Platinum cartridges...and it's easy to know (or imagine) they are from different batches as they print a date on them  

It's also possible that the lower lubrication and the "transparent" appearance of this ink tricked me into thinking it was dry.  Too late to tell now (that ink is long out of the review pen), but good for people to have this additional info!

[Doc Dan]

The Diamine sounds nice and I will have to try it. I wrote out a long narrative poem in Pilot's standard red ink. I didn't think I'd like it but it is quite alright once the entire page is filled. It isn't as red-red as I'd like, but it is a nice color. I now know I need to try more red inks.