Question about a Wahl Gold Seal--What size is this pen?

[brain]

Hello,

I have a Wahl Gold Seal in front of me that's missing the nib. Replacements seem plentiful but I can't identify for the life of me whether this is the 84 size or the 86 "oversize" version. It's a Rosewood ebonite model in almost showroom condition--hardly a scratch on it. It measures 5.25" capped and probably about 5.75" posted, though I'm guessing since the nib is missing. It has the full WAHL EVERSHARP engraving on the clip, and two plain bands rather than the deco. I think two bands means it's the #4 size, but the pen feels quite large and I have no frame of reference. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I apologize if this is something I could have figured out on Google; I haven't found any definitive information online.

 

[Wahl]

135 mm.

[brain]

135mm for the largest size with #6 nib or for #4 size?

[Wahl]

135mm capped, there is no size number on the nib.

[brain]

So is this the large size or the standard size, model 86 or 84? 

[Wahl]

Oversize Personal Point, part of the Art Deco line, manufactured between 1929 to 1932.

 

Also known as Greek Band.

[brain]

Great. So my pen is the oversize model even if it doesn't have the deco band? Mine just has two gold rings, but is 135mm.

[Wahl]

A picture would help

[Wahlnut]

The pen in question with 2 lower cap band would be the 84.  For accuracy it might be good to know that the first number in the Wahl/WAHL-EVERSHARP catalogs was the pen size (Length), the second number is the nib size.  The next 2 digits in the catalog number is the color/material so 8407C is a #8 length pen with #4 nib and 07 = Rosewood ebonite color.  In the Gold Seal Pens only the Oversized Decoband Grecian Border banded pens were 86.  That said Pens made prior to the gold seal models (1924-28, cor example came with just 2 gold lower cap bands and those same in a #6 nib size.