EFNIR: De Atramentis Document Black 2

[LizEF]

Extra Fine Nib Ink Review: De Atramentis Document Black 2

This is review #253 in my series. Here's the YouTube video:

Post-recording notes: This is a new sample to do a new review because the original review (#37) had the ink performing so badly.  The sample for that review was very old, so I'm giving the ink another chance. I think it's important to note that a lot of inks have gone through this nib, feed, and pen since I reviewed the original sample, and it's probable that the pen is wetter now than it was, which may impact flow and line width. FWIW.

Images look pretty accurate to me. Cleaning was what you would expect from a permanent ink: You'll use some combination of soaking, swabbing, pen flush, ultrasonic cleaner, depending on your tools and patience.  But it doesn't appear to have stained anything, just liked to cling, especially in places where it had dried.

Zoomed in photo

Screenshot

Scan of Completed Review

Absorbent Paper Close-up (top is puzzle paper like thick newsprint, bottom is old 20lb copy paper)

Line width (One of the lines used for dry time. Magnification is 100x. The grid is 100x100µm. The scale is 330µm, with eleven divisions of 30µm each. The line width for this ink is roughly 296µm. With 253 inks measured, the average line width is 295µm.)

Microscope image (400x. Looks almost organic. Mostly, the ink was boring under the scope.)

Water Test Results

Previous Review: Diplomat Caramel.

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Hope you enjoy. Comments appreciated!

[yazeh]

Thanks for another excellent review 👍with extraordinary sound effects which mirror the dramatic sequen-the to paraphrase Ethrie 😁

 

Is it my imagination or the dry times are very long? Is it as black as the archival black or is somewhere in between?

 

Thx again for making Tuesdays so fun🙏

 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Thanks for another excellent review 👍with extraordinary sound effects which mirror the dramatic sequen-the to paraphrase Ethrie 😁

You're very welcome!

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Is it my imagination or the dry times are very long?

Not your imagination.  I've developed a theory for why my dry times are so long and am considering starting a post to discuss it - hoping the resident scientists will weigh in.

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Is it as black as the archival black or is somewhere in between?

This is blacker than the Archive ink, which is warmer - though you really can't tell in this fine a nib, only in swatches or perhaps broader, dry nibs.

 

1 hour ago, yazeh said:

Thx again for making Tuesdays so fun🙏

Gladly!

[yazeh]

4 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Not your imagination.  I've developed a theory for why my dry times are so long and am considering starting a post to discuss it - hoping the resident scientists will weigh in.

I'm curious to learn about it. I would've thought that in your dry climate everything would dry fast, compared to my relatively humid climate

 

[LizEF]

5 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I'm curious to learn about it. I would've thought that in your dry climate everything would dry fast, compared to my relatively humid climate

 

Me, too!  Hence my pondering.  I'll go make a new post in a little while.  I guess I'll put it in an ink forum since it's about dry times, but my theory has more to do with paper...

[LizEF]

Since it came up elsewhere, I thought I would add this story clarification here, too:

 

Makhabesh rejoined Quin in review 250, riding on Quin's shoulder - though I didn't say that explicitly.  (In 251, though, he whispers to Quin, so that should suggest he's on Quin's shoulder again.) And I messed up - also in 250...  When Quin slung his staff over his back, Essri transferred over to Makhabesh's pack/pouch, where some of the silkworm tears are.  I forgot to add that fact.  Next week's review will establish who is where, though.

[LizEF]

22 minutes ago, yazeh said:

I'm curious to learn about it. I would've thought that in your dry climate everything would dry fast, compared to my relatively humid climate

OK, here's the thread:

 

[yazeh]

19 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Since it came up elsewhere, I thought I would add this story clarification here, too:

 

Makhabesh rejoined Quin in review 250, riding on Quin's shoulder - though I didn't say that explicitly.  (In 251, though, he whispers to Quin, so that should suggest he's on Quin's shoulder again.) And I messed up - also in 250...  When Quin slung his staff over his back, Essri transferred over to Makhabesh's pack/pouch, where some of the silkworm tears are.  I forgot to add that fact.  Next week's review will establish who is where, though.

Thx! 👍

[Sailor Kenshin]

A: No, I didn't forget Tuesday!

 

B: But became immersed in making batter bread cheese rolls, pita chips (evidently there is a shortage!) and chowchow relish, some of which ingredients came from our actual garden!).

 

I sorta don't know about this, or any other permanent pigmented Forever Whatever ink.  The idea is growing on me.  Perhaps.

 

But whoaaa!  Those blackened wastelands!  Will this be where The Dream Team ends up?  Will Happy Silkworm Tears save the day? And where is Makhabesh?  
 

@LizEF, love the story, look forward to the reviews!  The quote is particularly fitting here.  Thanks so much for making Tuesdays not just a second Monday.  😹

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

A: No, I didn't forget Tuesday!

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

B: But became immersed in making batter bread cheese rolls, pita chips (evidently there is a shortage!) and chowchow relish, some of which ingredients came from our actual garden!).

Nom nom nom.

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

I sorta don't know about this, or any other permanent pigmented Forever Whatever ink.  The idea is growing on me.  Perhaps.

As long as it's not fuzzy and doesn't smell like rotten eggs...

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

But whoaaa!  Those blackened wastelands!  Will this be where The Dream Team ends up?  Will Happy Silkworm Tears save the day? And where is Makhabesh?  

  (Makhabesh is on Quin's shoulder.)

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

@LizEF, love the story, look forward to the reviews!

Thank you!

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

The quote is particularly fitting here.

I've been lucky to find some that match.

 

1 hour ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

Thanks so much for making Tuesdays not just a second Monday.  😹

  You're very welcome!  Second Monday not allowed!!

[InesF]

There is a 50% chance that running faster may be just the right thing when somebody is calling "stop!" behind you. I'm nail-biting while awaiting next Tuesday!

 

Thank you, @LizEF, for taking the time for writing a review of a black ink  and for patiently waiting for the inky to dry.  

As so often with black inks, the most interesting part is the microscopy. This wasteland pattern of the ink has similar physics behind as a real wasteland has. And as you can read elsewhere, it will become hydrophobic after all water has evaporated ...

[LizEF]

8 hours ago, InesF said:

There is a 50% chance that running faster may be just the right thing when somebody is calling "stop!" behind you. I'm nail-biting while awaiting next Tuesday!

 

8 hours ago, InesF said:

Thank you, @LizEF, for taking the time for writing a review of a black ink  and for patiently waiting for the inky to dry.  

You're most welcome!

 

8 hours ago, InesF said:

As so often with black inks, the most interesting part is the microscopy. This wasteland pattern of the ink has similar physics behind as a real wasteland has. And as you can read elsewhere, it will become hydrophobic after all water has evaporated ...