De Atramentis Document Black Red

[yazeh]

I really wanted to like this ink, but it didn't sing for me.

Before writing I had to smudge the ink to make sure it was the right ink. That's when you have too many pens inked

But as you will see, in scans it's clearly a brownish/ reddish ink and looks very elegant. 

 

The cleaning was a bit of pain.

I was really disappointed when I had smudging during the water test. That's not something I was expecting from a document ink. 

I got my sample from Goulet's, but couldn't find this ink on De Atramentis's website. Maybe it's discontinued or maybe renamed? 😛

 

Let's start with the chroma:

Writing samples: 

It seems I forgot to write with a sample with Japanese Ef and forgot to crop the first image. Ah well, nobody's perfect  Maybe @LizEF will do a review in 2025 😜

 

Midori

 

Very well behaved on Hammermill...

 

Photo (TR 68gr)

 

Comparison:

Water test: (quelle horreur!)

 

 

 And finally an artwork, entitled fall. The red ink, is De Atramentis Document Red with a bit Black Red mixed in, 

 

· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Stub, Lamy Safari (EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Nib

· What I liked: I wasn’t enamored with the colour but found it enjoyable with a broad nib. 

· What I did not like: Not an interesting colour with finer nibs, might as well stick with black. Not 100 percent waterproof. 

· What some might not like: The same as above and cleaning.

· Shading: With M/B nibs. 

· Ghosting: No. 

· Bleed through: No. 

· Flow Rate: Wet

· Lubrication: Lower than average.

· Nib Dry-out: Didn’t notice.

· Start-up: No.

· Saturation: Saturated.

· Shading Potential: Only with M/B nibs.

· Sheen: No. 

· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice.

· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice.

· Staining (pen): No.

· Clogging: No. 

· Cleaning: I didn’t have the patience to soak it overnight in water and went the easy way, with a cleaning solution. 

· Water resistance: Good. I was surprised that some of the ink came off. 

· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

[LizEF]

4 hours ago, yazeh said:

Maybe @LizEF will do a review in 2025 😜

You never know...  (Although, if it's discontinued...)

 

Thank you for the review, @yazeh .  Funny how a name can ruin everything - if it had been named Black Brown, it might not have been disappointing.   (Though I guess the lack of complete waterproofness¹ still would be.)  I kinda like the color in the photograph.  But my favorite part is "fall".   Still makes me smile.

 

¹My browser says this isn't a word.   Let's try alternatives: waterproofity? waterproofence?  waterproofance?  waterproofation?  waterproofment? waterproofship?  waterproofanceshipnessity?  My browser lacks sufficient intelligence to recognize the need for a properly formed non-word. Stupid browser.

[yazeh]

10 minutes ago, LizEF said:

You never know...  (Although, if it's discontinued...)

Goulet is still selling it

 

10 minutes ago, LizEF said:

 

Thank you for the review, @yazeh .  Funny how a name can ruin everything - if it had been named Black Brown, it might not have been disappointing.  

I think it's a combination of factors. The name, behaviour and my subjectivity. There are few ink that I fall in love with first write

 

10 minutes ago, LizEF said:

(Though I guess the lack of complete waterproofness¹ still would be.)  I kinda like the color in the photograph.  But my favorite part is "fall".   Still makes me smile.

¹My browser says this isn't a word.   Let's try alternatives: waterproofity? waterproofence?  waterproofance?  waterproofation?  waterproofment? waterproofship?  waterproofanceshipnessity?  My browser lacks sufficient intelligence to recognize the need for a properly formed non-word. Stupid browser.

As of now, AI still thankfully lack human quirkiness and uniqueness of each voice

Fall still makes smile too

Funny how is it with inks, right now, I'm liking an ink, which should be on the naughty list, and this one which is quite well behaved, understated and elegant sends me to yawnville

 

[InesF]

Thank you, @yazeh, for the ink review and for the nice artwork!

While I have no opinion on the black ink, key point here seems to be the "fall". Thank you for making my day! 

[yazeh]

2 hours ago, InesF said:

Thank you, @yazeh, for the ink review and for the nice artwork!

🙏

2 hours ago, InesF said:

While I have no opinion on the black ink, key point here seems to be the "fall". Thank you for making my day! 

That was my intention 😊