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De Atramentis Document Red Grey

I really enjoyed using this ink. It’s an improved version of Noodler’s Red Black with the added full waterproofness, until I reached the cleaning part. It was not as straightforward as I thought. The ink managed to stain my Lamy convertor and in the end after soaking for few hours in water, the red dye was more than tenacious. So, I simply dunked it in my Monteverde cleaning solution and the problem was solved.  

However it didn't stain the Pilot CON-40 nor the cheap nonane Chinese convertor. 

 

This is not a deal breaker for me. The worst thing is when  ink smudges or refuses to dry, then bleed through. The rest I can live with, if I really like the ink.

It also doesn't like cheap thin papers. 

Let's start with the chroma:

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Writing samples:

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It doesn't like thin copy paper.

 

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Photo:

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Comparison:

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Water-test(Nothing budges)

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and finally an artwork. from a drawing challenge, entitled Solar System with my cat and mouse characters :)

Fountain pen inks De Atramentis Urban Grey / Red Grey
Kuretake brush pen (black)
Water colour (blue), Silver marker

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· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, (Lamy EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Copperplate nib

· What I liked: Well lubricated, intriguing colour.

· What disappointed me: Staining of Lamy convertor (a first for me), and cleaning.  

· What some might not like: High maintenance cleaning, staining convertor, doesn't like cheap thin paper.

· Shading: Yes

· Ghosting: No.

· Bleed through: 

· Flow Rate: Wet

· Lubrication: Excellent - Cushiony

· Nib Dry-out: No.

· Start-up: No.

· Saturation: No.

· Shading Potential: Yes

· Sheen: No.

· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No.

· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Didn’t notice.

· Staining (pen): Yes, Lamy convertor!

· Clogging: No.

· Cleaning: The red dye is tenacious. 

· Water resistance: Excellent.

· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  :)

 

 

 

 

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Nice! A really soft red, although I do see some blood in it. So, let's call it a "warm" red. Also, some "manuscriptness" in it, like in the Galileo number. I know, I know, I keep repeating that old comparison, but I do treasure it so much (the Galileo Manuscript); thusly, this might be a good substitute.

Life is too short to drink bad wine (Goethe)

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Ink: Hmm.  I dunno.  Maybe.  (Though I can do without the cleaning routine.)

 

Supercat and HulkMouse: Hooray!  Please don't drop us! :D

 

Watertest Cat and Mouse: Very charming pair. :)

 

Yazeh: :thumbup:

 

Thanks for another fun and interesting review!

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3 hours ago, lapis said:

Nice! A really soft red, although I do see some blood in it. So, let's call it a "warm" red.

Or maybe some wine? :D

 

3 hours ago, lapis said:

 

Also, some "manuscriptness" in it, like in the Galileo number. I know, I know, I keep repeating that old comparison, but I do treasure it so much (the Galileo Manuscript); thusly, this might be a good substitute.

I'm not sure if its has that brown element of Galileo. I'm sure that between De Atramentis Document Sepia and Noodler's Polar Brown, there should be something similar to it :)

 

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3 hours ago, LizEF said:

Ink: Hmm.  I dunno.  Maybe.  (Though I can do without the cleaning routine.)

Ah no murky reds ;)

 

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Supercat and HulkMouse: Hooray!  Please don't drop us! :D

We won't. It's not planet earth. Maybe it's just a giant yarn ball :lticaptd:

 

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Watertest Cat and Mouse: Very charming pair. :)

 

Indeed they are :)

 

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

Yazeh: :thumbup:

 

Thanks for another fun and interesting review!

Always a pleasure Efnir 🙏:D

 

 

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Great shading! This ink (its shading, permanence and hue) is a surprise. Thanks for bringing our attention to it.

If you are to be ephemeral, leave a good scent.

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2 minutes ago, txomsy said:

Great shading! This ink (its shading, permanence and hue) is a surprise. Thanks for bringing our attention to it.

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Not a color for me, but thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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37 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Not a color for me, but thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

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Thank you, @yazeh, for your always comprehensive ink reviews! :thumbup:

 

Only recently, I started to love these muddy-rose and muddy-purple ink colours. Red Grey has entered my (long, very long) buy list for new inks.

 

What I learned today: The cat is called A'Tuin and the four elephants are not more than a fairy tale, in truth it is only one mouse! ;)

 

One life!

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1 hour ago, InesF said:

Thank you, @yazeh, for your always comprehensive ink reviews! :thumbup:

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1 hour ago, InesF said:

 

Only recently, I started to love these muddy-rose and muddy-purple ink colours. Red Grey has entered my (long, very long) buy list for new inks.

That must be one long list :D

 

1 hour ago, InesF said:

 

What I learned today: The cat is called A'Tuin and the four elephants are not more than a fairy tale, in truth it is only one mouse! ;)

 

Yes. Indeed and the cat is called C'Atlas 😸

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