De Atramentis Document Red Grey

[yazeh]

De Atramentis Document Red Grey

I really enjoyed using this ink. It’s an improved version of Noodler’s Red Black with the added full waterproofness, until I reached the cleaning part. It was not as straightforward as I thought. The ink managed to stain my Lamy convertor and in the end after soaking for few hours in water, the red dye was more than tenacious. So, I simply dunked it in my Monteverde cleaning solution and the problem was solved.  

However it didn't stain the Pilot CON-40 nor the cheap nonane Chinese convertor. 

 

This is not a deal breaker for me. The worst thing is when  ink smudges or refuses to dry, then bleed through. The rest I can live with, if I really like the ink.

It also doesn't like cheap thin papers. 

Let's start with the chroma:

Writing samples:

 

It doesn't like thin copy paper.

 

Photo:

Comparison:

Water-test: (Nothing budges)

and finally an artwork. from a drawing challenge, entitled Solar System with my cat and mouse characters

Fountain pen inks De Atramentis Urban Grey / Red Grey
Kuretake brush pen (black)
Water colour (blue), Silver marker

 

 

 

 

· Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, (Lamy EF/F/M/B/Stub 1.1), Osmiroid Copperplate nib

· What I liked: Well lubricated, intriguing colour.

· What disappointed me: Staining of Lamy convertor (a first for me), and cleaning.  

· What some might not like: High maintenance cleaning, staining convertor, doesn't like cheap thin paper.

· Shading: Yes

· Ghosting: No.

· Bleed through: 

· Flow Rate: Wet

· Lubrication: Excellent - Cushiony

· Nib Dry-out: No.

· Start-up: No.

· Saturation: No.

· Shading Potential: Yes

· Sheen: No.

· Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: No.

· Nib Creep / “Crud”: Didn’t notice.

· Staining (pen): Yes, Lamy convertor!

· Clogging: No.

· Cleaning: The red dye is tenacious. 

· Water resistance: Excellent.

· Availability: 45 ml bottles.

 

Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier  

 

 

 

 

[lapis]

Nice! A really soft red, although I do see some blood in it. So, let's call it a "warm" red. Also, some "manuscriptness" in it, like in the Galileo number. I know, I know, I keep repeating that old comparison, but I do treasure it so much (the Galileo Manuscript); thusly, this might be a good substitute.

[LizEF]

Ink: Hmm.  I dunno.  Maybe.  (Though I can do without the cleaning routine.)

 

Supercat and HulkMouse: Hooray!  Please don't drop us!

 

Watertest Cat and Mouse: Very charming pair.

 

Yazeh:

 

Thanks for another fun and interesting review!

[yazeh]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:29 PM, lapis said:

Nice! A really soft red, although I do see some blood in it. So, let's call it a "warm" red.

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Or maybe some wine?

 

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:29 PM, lapis said:

 

Also, some "manuscriptness" in it, like in the Galileo number. I know, I know, I keep repeating that old comparison, but I do treasure it so much (the Galileo Manuscript); thusly, this might be a good substitute.

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I'm not sure if its has that brown element of Galileo. I'm sure that between De Atramentis Document Sepia and Noodler's Polar Brown, there should be something similar to it

 

[yazeh]

  On 9/20/2023 at 3:08 PM, LizEF said:

Ink: Hmm.  I dunno.  Maybe.  (Though I can do without the cleaning routine.)

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Ah no murky reds

 

  On 9/20/2023 at 3:08 PM, LizEF said:

 

Supercat and HulkMouse: Hooray!  Please don't drop us!

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We won't. It's not planet earth. Maybe it's just a giant yarn ball 

 

  On 9/20/2023 at 3:08 PM, LizEF said:

 

Watertest Cat and Mouse: Very charming pair.

 

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Indeed they are

 

  On 9/20/2023 at 3:08 PM, LizEF said:

 

Yazeh:

 

Thanks for another fun and interesting review!

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Always a pleasure Efnir 🙏

 

 

[txomsy]

Great shading! This ink (its shading, permanence and hue) is a surprise. Thanks for bringing our attention to it.

[yazeh]

  On 9/20/2023 at 8:05 PM, txomsy said:

Great shading! This ink (its shading, permanence and hue) is a surprise. Thanks for bringing our attention to it.

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[inkstainedruth]

Not a color for me, but thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

  On 9/20/2023 at 8:14 PM, inkstainedruth said:

Not a color for me, but thanks as usual for the comprehensive review.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

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[InesF]

Thank you, @yazeh, for your always comprehensive ink reviews! 

 

Only recently, I started to love these muddy-rose and muddy-purple ink colours. Red Grey has entered my (long, very long) buy list for new inks.

 

What I learned today: The cat is called A'Tuin and the four elephants are not more than a fairy tale, in truth it is only one mouse!

 

[yazeh]

  On 9/21/2023 at 11:45 AM, InesF said:

Thank you, @yazeh, for your always comprehensive ink reviews! 

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  On 9/21/2023 at 11:45 AM, InesF said:

 

Only recently, I started to love these muddy-rose and muddy-purple ink colours. Red Grey has entered my (long, very long) buy list for new inks.

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That must be one long list

 

  On 9/21/2023 at 11:45 AM, InesF said:

 

What I learned today: The cat is called A'Tuin and the four elephants are not more than a fairy tale, in truth it is only one mouse!

 

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Yes. Indeed and the cat is called C'Atlas 😸