Italian Parker 51?

[Rayboy1955]

I purchased this Parker 51 in Slovenia several years ago. It appears to be a standard mid-fifties pen except it has what appears to be a serial number on the end of the filler.(see pics). The cap has a very light green jewel. The cap says “PARKER” on it. The filler says “PARKER 51 to fill press ribbed bar firmly 4 times use dry writing superchrome ink holding pen point down. Wipe point with soft tissue . The Parker pen co. Made in USA” and on the end of the filler is “24034”. The lid appears to be brushed aluminum. The body is black. I have not looked at the nib as I don’t know how it disassembles. It writes well and is an all-around nice pen. Someone told me that pens made in Italy had this serial number although it appears to be made from US parts. It has no date codes that I can see. Any info anyone has on this pen is appreciated.  Thanks.   Rayboy

[joss]

Only the serial numbers were done in Italy, the pens are standard 51s made in USA or England.

[thx1138]

Parker did the same for the 75 fountain pens in Italy. A serial number is printed on the section. I can't remember why.

[Rayboy1955]

Thanks, I found that the numbers were added by the Italian importers because of fake 51s circulating in the country. Mine was made in the US, imported and the number was added before sale. They also came with a certificate of authenticity. One more question is it possible to trace the sale date using the number?     Rayboy 

[Number99]

18 hours ago, Rayboy1955 said:

Thanks, I found that the numbers were added by the Italian importers because of fake 51s circulating in the country. Mine was made in the US, imported and the number was added before sale. They also came with a certificate of authenticity. One more question is it possible to trace the sale date using the number?     Rayboy 

Here is a link to an ad about it, which you can read using the image-to-text translation feature of Google Lens or similar.

 You may be able to tell if it is the time of purchase from the date on the stub.

 

From Fountainpen.it. The link is pasted in the manner specified by Fountainpen.it. Close the image to return to the web page.

https://www.fountainpen.it/Parker_51#/media/File%3A1952-03-Parker-51.jpg

 

This Authenticity certificate does not have a stub.

https://www.fountainpen.it/Parker_51#/media/File%3A195x-Parker-51-Istro-Front.jpg

 

The Authenticity certificate apparently also functioned as a lottery number to win prizes. That function may explain the mystery of the stub attached to the Authenticity certificate.

I can't explain more than that, as I was just passing by as an outsider and did a little research.

 

I have a feeling you already have the answer, since you are asking only with the specificity of "the sale date".

😅

 

P.S.

I have found another reference image of a different style Authenticity certificate and added a link to it.

https://www.fountainpen.it/Parker_51#/media/File%3A195x-Parker-51-Warr-IT-front.jpg

 

It is a Parker 45, not a Parker 51, but I found a reference image of the Authenticity certificate with the stub. The stub has a field to write the date of purchase.

https://www.fountainpen.it/Parker_45#/media/File%3A196x-Parker-45-Sheet-Front-Warrant.jpg

 

And one more thing, Parker 75.

https://www.fountainpen.it/Parker_75#/media/File%3A196x-Parker-75-Garanzia-2.jpg

 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Number99

[Bo Bo Olson]

Parker was real powerful right after the war.

 

GI's departing from Italy were searched for counterfeit Parker's. They were in the Army so they had no rights.