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46 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

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I recently found a box with some old 20/30 years old blue and black cartridges, and it put me to sleep!

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7 hours ago, Lithium466 said:

think current Lamy blue is darker, closer to Waterman Serenity blue than it was 20 years ago

grumble cubed...looks like I'll have to test 30 year old Lamy blue vs when ever 4001 sooner than wished.

 

When I can take a break from my scribbling.

I don't think I have any Waterman old name before Serenity blue left.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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On 7/22/2023 at 6:05 AM, Lithium466 said:

Lamy blue, Waterman Florida/serenity blue, Pelikan 4001 blue

 

They can all be erased with an inkerasor, which was a plus, for me, when all my essays were handwritten.

 

I could not master the use of a typewriter, then computer came for essays and official letters but, handwriting is so much better.    

 

I still use those inks and the inkerasors, I like them.

Is it fair for an intelligent and family oriented mammal to be separated from his/her family and spend his/her life starved in a concrete jail?

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The recent R&K Königsblau prompted me to revisit Lamy blue. Nostalgia is a weird thing, as I keep pretty positive memories of that ink, despite some not so very enthusiastic reviews here and there.

I started using Lamy blue with my first EF pen, a Lamy Logo, as that's what my local store carried in EF. I remembered it more purple than Waterman (then) Florida blue, but today I didn't see much purple. It's less saturated than the R&K, and as such less attractive, unless you're into shading (I'm not) maybe.

 

It's also the only ink that made my Pilot 912 FA railroad at the slightest pressure applied, which could have made me join the club of ebonite drama feeds, had it been the first ink I used with the FA 😱

Apart from that, today I will rate it as a solid meh...an ever changing opinion, but today isn't the day, even with the Iroful life support. If you suffer from insomnia, you can try Sailor Ink studio 443 for a similarly meh colour, but with (much) better flow and lubrication.

Ink for tomorrow is Waterman Serenity blue, it's going to be a quiet weekend.

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28 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

I started using Lamy blue with my first EF pen, a Lamy Logo, as that's what my local store carried in EF. I remembered it more purple than Waterman (then) Florida blue, but today I didn't see much purple. It's less saturated than the R&K, and as such less attractive, unless you're into shading (I'm not) maybe.


I remember seeing other people remark on FPN that they have bought Lamy pens with a cartridge of Lamy ‘Blue’ that came out fairly purple, and then found new cartridges to contain ink that is a far less vivid shade of blue.


In my opinion, this may happen if a cartridge has been on a shelf in a store for Some Time - water (and other volatile components of the ink) can evaporate through the plastic of the cartridge over time, with the result that the dye-load of the ink that remains inside the cartridge gradually becomes more-highly concentrated than is typical for the same ink when ‘fresh’ from the factory.

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40 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

today I will rate it as a solid meh

:lol:

 

40 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

even with the Iroful life support

:D  If Iroful doesn't raise it beyond "meh", nothing will!

 

41 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

If you suffer from insomnia, you can try Sailor Ink studio 443 for a similarly meh colour, but with (much) better flow and lubrication.

Thanks for the warning! ;)

 

42 minutes ago, Lithium466 said:

Ink for tomorrow is Waterman Serenity blue, it's going to be a quiet weekend.

Except for all the yawning... :P

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12 hours ago, Mercian said:


I remember seeing other people remark on FPN that they have bought Lamy pens with a cartridge of Lamy ‘Blue’ that came out fairly purple, and then found new cartridges to contain ink that is a far less vivid shade of blue.


In my opinion, this may happen if a cartridge has been on a shelf in a store for Some Time - water (and other volatile components of the ink) can evaporate through the plastic of the cartridge over time, with the result that the dye-load of the ink that remains inside the cartridge gradually becomes more-highly concentrated than is typical for the same ink when ‘fresh’ from the factory.

That's always a possibility. I remember Lamy blue from 25 years ago being more purple in general, not just the cartridge that came with the pen, and I think it was also "erasing" less cleanly than now with ink eradicators. I do have old Lamy cartridges (without the price in €), I shall compare!
 

12 hours ago, LizEF said:

Except for all the yawning... :P

😂

 

12 hours ago, LizEF said:

:D  If Iroful doesn't raise it beyond "meh", nothing will!

In parallel to my royal blue reexamination, I was in an orange rediscovery too, and found that several orange/red didn't look "quite right" on Iroful compared to other paper (turning more brownish) 🤔

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1 hour ago, Lithium466 said:

In parallel to my royal blue reexamination, I was in an orange rediscovery too, and found that several orange/red didn't look "quite right" on Iroful compared to other paper (turning more brownish) 🤔

Oh, that's interesting.  I haven't tried any reds or oranges on Iroful.  I'll have to do that and see what happens.

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It's going to take a very long time before i open up my W.Germany Blue and Turquoise bottles. eAMqXGY.jpg

I actually got down to 7 inked pens to use more ink, down from my once normal 17. I have inked many more than ever before, 25 pens:yikes:...8 orange (two home made mixes) and a bunch of grays.

And two full pen cups. of inked...and two very full cups of dirty empty pens.

I like 'testing' inks with M's-B's or wider.

I haven't been into blue inks in a long time.

If so, then purples to follow.

After orange, I think I can revert to blue.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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These "vintage" Lamy bottles look nice, but are they practical to fill pens? I see there is a plastic ink miser thing.

(I don't know why I'm asking, I never fill a pen directly)

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I assume they were practical, in they look unusual for the era, but were replaced by one of the greatest ink bottles that is not a Shaffer I think it was a Script bottle with a ledge or the MB or other ink makers that used a shoe.

 

I don't have a picture of the normal Lamy ink bottle, that has a deep point in the well to get the last drops and yards/meters of a cotton band coming out of a slot to clean your nib with.

The Lamy Crystal Ink bottles are nothing special but small.

 

Is the ink still good? I don't know I've never opened the bottles. 15 years ago when I first came on the com, there were lots of 'old timer's' with 40 or more year old inks, that worked. ie Carter inks....or old English makes, old bottles of Scrip **and so on.

 

** I missed those inks in I was wandering around in the Ball Point Desert for 40 years.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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I really like the current Lamy bottles, from a practical point of view (even if I never dip fill pens). Crystal bottles look unpractical...I am yet to get one, Azurite is on my short list of inks to buy, next time I'll be in Europe, to avoid the hyper inflated North American prices.

Never opened? That ink is probably as good as new ;) 

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