Is This Parker Nib Real or Fake?

[Jinhao4Rever]

I got this pen from a seller. I did not really care about it until I notice the extremely tiny Parker logo, with an arrow in the middle and a letter P on top of the arrow, locating at the bottom right side of the nib.

 

The pen is clearly modified a lot but I keep wondering if this nib is really a Parker nib.

 

Please let me know what you think about it.

 

Thank you

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by Jinhao4Rever
Typo in title

[OCArt]

Does a magnet stick to it? If so it is not a gold nib.

[fabri00]

It seems a bit rough in all the imprint, and therefore probably it might be a chinese copy.

OCArt has given you a good suggestion, to check it with a magnet.

[Number99]

I think it is a difficult thing to mention exactly whether a nib or pen is authentic or not.

I also think that if someone publishes here a very professional way of identifying fakes (I don't mean a general method), it will help the people who make fakes to correct the flaws of the fakes.

 

If by the small logo you mean the diamond-shaped symbol in the lower right corner, that is the Parker hallmark (housemark).

The horizontal diamond-shaped hallmark is also used on the sonnet's gold nibs.

[fabri00]

Well, if you see the nib in real, not in picture, and if you have some experience in doing that, you can see if the nib and all the details of the nib like the inprintings are carefully maded, and this is thypical of the original ones, or rougly maded, and this is thypical of the fake ones.

 

Furthermore, as for the suggestion of OCArt, if a nib is marked as gold, with a magnet is easly and inequivocably possible to check if it is made of steel/iron or gold.

 

Fakes made of gold and very well maded are of course possible, but not very common, in particular when we are discussing of a cheap pen like a Parker Sonnet.

[Number99]

59 minutes ago, fabri00 said:

Well, if you see the nib in real, not in picture, and if you have some experience in doing that, you can see if the nib and all the details of the nib like the inprintings are carefully maded, and this is thypical of the original ones, or rougly maded, and this is thypical of the fake ones.

 

Furthermore, as for the suggestion of OCArt, if a nib is marked as gold, with a magnet is easly and inequivocably possible to check if it is made of steel/iron or gold.

 

Fakes made of gold and very well maded are of course possible, but not very common, in particular when we are discussing of a cheap pen like a Parker Sonnet.

I am responding to the OP's post. I added the following statement to my previous post for the purpose of preventing misunderstandings.

(I don't mean a general method)

 

I have no objection to your post.

[AmyStr]

It looks like my Sonnet, except mine doesn't have the lowest row of markings. And mine doesn't have the P in the middle.  I was thinking the same about my nib, so I e-mailed directly to Parker and asked them to interpret the stock numbers and  letters on the box label. It verified for me that mine was authentic. It took a couple of weeks to get an answer, but now I feel better about the pen.

[Number99]

Here is a link to a blog post by a Chinese fountain pen expert.

 

I am not an expert and do not judge the authenticity of pens. I believe the image in this blog post shows a nib with a similar pattern to your pen. I respect those who mention the authenticity of these as I cannot tell the difference.

 

The article can be read with your browser's translate function (add Mandarin to the translation language).

For AndroidOs smartphones, the text in the image will be translated by Google Lens. You can activate Google Lens by long tapping on the image.

 

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/29312847?utm_id=0

 

 

 

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Number99

[Jinhao4Rever]

Hi everyone an update on this. So I have already known that this is a fake Sonnet. The seller told me about that fact and I paid him $5 for the pen. It was just because the nid is too fine and too much detailed that made me wonder if it is actually a real nib on a fake pen.

 

After I have a chance to own a real Sonnet and learned how to unscrew the Sonnet nib out of the feed. I can inspect the fake nib properly. It is a fake nib on a fake pen. Even though all the details look exactly the same as a real nib, it failed the magnet test. The fake section also doesn't accept the real nib as shown in one picture below, so there is no chance one can put a real Sonnet nib on a fake Sonnet pen. New knowledge gained. Thank you for all of your replies and good luck hunting.

[Ron Z]

So why the long charade?  The fact that there are fake Sonnets on the market is nothing new.  The first clue is the ridiculously low price.

[Jinhao4Rever]

I'm sorry if my story did not serve you well but that was my whole journey with the pen. At the beginning I could not do the magnet test properly since I have no experience with a Sonnet nib, I did not know how to remove it from the pen. It looked stuck and I could not pull it out directly as the other nibs of the same style. Doing magnet test while the nib is still with the pen can lead to false positive result. Only when I learned how to remove the nib from the section I could test it absolutely. Until that point of time, everytime I looked at I I kept wondering if it was a real nib due to so much detailed it is. The long charade? I did not want to create any bias that could affect the conclusion of our experts here.

Once again thank you for all your advices.

[Mercian]

Post edited to delete stupid question.

Sorry everyone.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Mercian