An old Parker Which model?

[pingis]

I just found this pen in a box. It says Parker and rolled gold on it and there are instructions on how to fill it. I have been trying to find a similar pen on the internet but I have had no luck so far. The cap is golden and the body is made of transparent plastic. Anyone who knows which model this is? How old do you think it is? 

[bsenn]

Looks to be an Aerometric 51 demonstrator with a cap (or at least the clip) from a VS.  Can be narrowed down further by what instructions are on the filler, but in general roughly late 40's or in the 50's.

 

VS caps do fit 51's, so no issue there as far as utility goes, but not original to the pen.

[pingis]

Thank You so much bsenn. It is so much easier to google for pictures when knowing what to search for. You seem to be absolutely correct. Thanks again!

[pingis]

The instructions: "To fill press ribbed bar firmly 4 times holding pen point down. Wipe point with soft tissue"

And just now I noticed it says "Parker 51" next to the instructions. I didn't see that before.

[Sheptonian]

If it's any help, the filler will be English. USA Parker 51 Aerometric fillers carry different imprints. 

[pingis]

Thank you so much Sheptonian. Every bit of information is welcome.

[inkstainedruth]

Interesting pen.  I don't think I've ever seen a clear barreled 51 (I hesitate to use the word demonstrator) before.

You can date the pen somewhat by whether it says to press the bar four times or six.  I don't remember details, but remember reading that either on an old thread here or on the parkercollector.com website in the article about 51s (or both).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[pingis]

Thank you Ruth. I think I found the article. So, if I understood the article correctly my pen, or at least the barrel, should date back to the 50's. That's nice:)

[inkstainedruth]

You're welcome!

Early on someone tipped me off to that site and that's my go-to for all things Parker Pens.  I think the guy who runs it, Tony Fischier, has been on FPN in the past, but don't remember what his screen name is.

While he doesn't have everything on it, he has such a huge compendium of stuff that it makes up for what he doesn't yet have.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[pingis]

Yes, that Parker website is amazing. It must be close to a bible when it comes to Parker pens. It would be nice if there were similar sites about all other pen brands:)

[inkstainedruth]

Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly.  There are a couple of sites that are pretty good for info on Pelikan pens, such as the Pelikan's Perch but not a lot out there for some of the other major brands.  

And when it comes to second and third tier brand vintage pens?  Good luck with that if someone on FPN doesn't know....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[KandyPenz]

I'm assuming that the barrel is modern based on how clear it is. 

There are demonstrator parker 51 but based on the age I would either expect a little ambering on the barrel or/and the inside to be more 'unfinished'.

 

May be ARIEL KULLOCK ?

Example from parker51.com of the original parker version:


 

[es9]

That may indeed be a new pen, but I would not base that upon a lack of yellowing. I do not believe acrylic yellows. 
 

Look for a Parker imprint just underneath the steel clutch ring. If it has one, you can be pretty sure it’s original and not a modern reproduction. 

[FarmBoy]

On 1/5/2023 at 8:49 PM, es9 said:

That may indeed be a new pen, but I would not base that upon a lack of yellowing. I do not believe acrylic yellows. 
 

Look for a Parker imprint just underneath the steel clutch ring. If it has one, you can be pretty sure it’s original and not a modern reproduction. 

Aerometric 51 Demonstrators typically lack an imprint on the barrel....go figure.

[FarmBoy]

Also the Lucite 51's are made from doesn't yellow. The few 'yellowed' demonstrators were made from an amber colored material and were rejected by marketing.  Strangely the rejection note survived and is in the hands of a collector.  A copy of the letter is in the 51 book. 

 

Parker original demonstrator 51s have also turned up with a light green tint as well as a dusty yellow/amber.  I heard tales of a blueish one found at a Janesville garage sale.  Unfortunately I didn't wind up with it.

[es9]

32 minutes ago, FarmBoy said:

Aerometric 51 Demonstrators typically lack an imprint on the barrel....go figure.

Interesting. Good to know. 

[FlighterGuy]

 

On 12/29/2022 at 10:15 AM, pingis said:

The instructions: "To fill press ribbed bar firmly 4 times holding pen point down. Wipe point with soft tissue"

And just now I noticed it says "Parker 51" next to the instructions. I didn't see that before.

That would make the pen a Mark I Type II 1950 or later, the Mark I Type I 1949 and earlier would have "To fill press ribbed bar firmly 6 times use dry-writing Superchrome ink"

[FlighterGuy]