What is this ballpoint pen?

[Jaemin12]

It looks like Parker 61, but has two cap ring.

 

[joss]

The correct name for your ballpoint is Parker "International" that was introduced in circa 1959. Your pen can be mistaken for a P61 Flighter ballpoint indeed but the two slender gold filled cap bands identify it as the Parker "International Flighter", which appeared in late 1961.

The Parker "International" was a cap-activated ballpoint and was phased out in 1967 when Parker introduced the Parker "International Classic". That was a button-activated ballpoint with design characteristics of the t-ball Jotter, albeit more slender and with different clip.

[Jaemin12]

Thanks!

[FlighterGuy]

If the cap jewel is black, then it's an International. If it is silver, then it's a 61.

[Number99]

21 hours ago, FlighterGuy said:

If the cap jewel is black, then it's an International. If it is silver, then it's a 61.

I have a twist mechanical pencil with the same two gold cap bands as this ballpoint pen.

 

The jewel is white (transparent) and has a "3" engraved on the cap top tassie.

I once read a post that this "3" stamping was found on 45 Insignia and 61 cap top tassies and could mean that the part was manufactured in 1963. (but some stated there was no proof)

 

Is my pencil a Mechanical Pencil 61 or International?

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/289283-parker-45-insignia-with-parallel-line-pattern-and-numbered-tassie/

 

 

 

[baz666]

23 minutes ago, Number99 said:

 

Is my pencil a Mechanical Pencil 61 or International?

 

 

 

I would say yours is an International.

I have a set of these, and yours sounds identical to mine, right down to the 3 on the clip.

Incidentally, the inner box calls them International Jotters, and the outer sticker calls them International Flighters.

 

 

 

 

 

[Number99]

9 minutes ago, baz666 said:

 

I would say yours is an International.

I have a set of these, and yours sounds identical to mine, right down to the 3 on the clip.

Incidentally, the inner box calls them International Jotters, and the outer sticker calls them International Flighters.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, mine is the same model as this pencil.

Glad to know the name of the model.

 

Thanks!

[New PointyThings]

The 2 incised cap rings indicates the International over a 61 Jet Flighter, even more than the cap jewel (which can be swapped).

[joss]

On 10/18/2022 at 2:44 PM, joss said:

The correct name for your ballpoint is Parker "International" that was introduced in circa 1959. Your pen can be mistaken for a P61 Flighter ballpoint indeed but the two slender gold filled cap bands identify it as the Parker "International Flighter", which appeared in late 1961 the late 1950s as it is already included in the 1958 Parker Repair Parts Price List (available in the PCA library).

The Parker "International" was a cap-activated ballpoint and was phased out in 1967 when Parker introduced the Parker "International Classic". That was a button-activated ballpoint with design characteristics of the t-ball Jotter, albeit more slender and with different clip.

 

I have corrected my response above: the introduction date of the Parker International ballpoint was not "late 1961" but "late 1950s".

See also these threads:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/368727-parker-51-jotter/#

http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3497-dating-a-parker-international-flighter/