Jinhao x159 replacement nib

[Jim858]

Is anyone aware of a replacement nib or nib assembly for the Jinhao x159? I like the body, but not so thrilled by the nibs.

[VillersCotterets]

I think patience is the key. Eventually, Jinhao, if not competitors, will release replacement units for it . This has happened with all other sufficiently popular models, and since the x159 is currently extremely popular, there is no reason it won't happen. However, it will take a drop in sales for this manufacturer to feel the need to breathe new life into his best-seller. I guess it will takes several months before that happens. 
 

There are of course #8 nibs already available, made by other brands, notably the Bock 380 and the 149 by Montblanc. (Jinhao copied a prestigious nib size. It didn't invent it.) But, these nibs cost a lot more than several x159s. It is not an economical option, at least for me.

[A Smug Dill]

@Jim858 Welcome to FPN.

 

4 hours ago, VillersCotterets said:

But, these nibs cost a lot more than several x159s. It is not an economical option, at least for me.

 

And, if we're to entertain uneconomical options that nevertheless would (or at least could) improve the user experience, one could send the Jinhao X159 to a nibmeister to be professionally regrind to one's liking, if the primary source of dissatisfaction is the nib.

 

For now, I think that is the best answer to (prospective or current) owners who are “not so thrilled by the nibs”, and believe what they have in mind would suit their writing preferences and/or habits better, never mind the disproportionate cost to achieving it.

 

The easiest and cheapest way to replace the nib on a Jinhao X159 is, in the present tense, to buy another X159. Giving the individual a choice of nibs with different qualities more to his or her liking, on the other hand, is altogether a different proposition to simply replacing the nib on a particular unit of the pen.

[Jim858]

Ha-ha! Thank you for reinforcing my decision to purchase more X159's in an attempt to find a nib that I like better!

[Sailor Kenshin]

What size nibs do these take?  I recall putting an italic nib onto a 159 feed.

[A Smug Dill]

3 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

What size nibs do these take?

 

40mm.

[Loke]

Would be interesting to try with a Bock380 nib...

[VillersCotterets]

5 hours ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

What size nibs do these take?  I recall putting an italic nib onto a 159 feed.

Yes, the Jinhao 159 is equipped with a No. 6 nib, and can therefore be fitted with a wide range of replacement nibs.

But we're not talking about this pen, which was introduced a long time ago, but its successor, the Jinhao x159, which was released a few weeks ago and has a No. 8 nib (40 mm long, mounted on an 8 mm feed). See https://i.redd.it/d8nkghmlzib91.png for the differences between the two.

[Sailor Kenshin]

I have one of those x-pens, too.  Maybe I got a good one; nib seems fine to me.

[A Smug Dill]

1 hour ago, VillersCotterets said:

Jinhao x159, which was released a few weeks ago and has a No. 8 nib (40 mm long, mounted on an 8 mm feed).

 

Why do some people keep insisting on both using inapplicable terminology and parroting incorrect information when describing the nib's size and geometry?

 

[Maurizio]

I ordered an x159 about a week ago. I like the pen. When it arrived the nib was dry. Using an .006 brass shim, I carefully spread the tines a tiny bit ( I don’t have any calipers or other measuring tools but the thickness is stamped on the shim). It is now writing nicely and I’m not thinking about a replacement nib at least not for now; and there don’t seem to be any reasonably-priced, non-gold  options available yet anyway. 

 

Correction: the shim I used is .008. I have a whole little set of brass feeler gauges, but .008 is the thinnest. 

[Loke]

8 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Why do some people keep insisting on both using inapplicable terminology and parroting incorrect information when describing the nib's size and geometry?

 

 

Thanks for this valuable information! I agree, there is so much misinformation about this pen/nib... 

[VillersCotterets]

Let's see what the manufacturer who makes this nib size has to say on their official website : 



And how they refer to their ink feed systems : Nib Sections for ink feed systems with a diameter of 8 mm.

But why do some people are under the impression they have discovered misinformation and thus feel the need to expose it? For the same reason that some people think that a two-by-four actually measures 2" x 4" and that pipes, ducts, threads, etc. are measured where they intuitively think they should be measured.

[A Smug Dill]

On 10/9/2022 at 10:07 AM, VillersCotterets said:

the Jinhao x159, which was released a few weeks ago and has a No. 8 nib (40 mm long, mounted on an 8 mm feed).

29 minutes ago, VillersCotterets said:

Let's see what the manufacturer who makes this nib size has to say on their official website : 

 

We're talking about the Jinhao X159. What has that got to do with Bock? The pen is not fitted with a Bock nib, even though there are some Chinese-branded fountain pens that are. Who says this pen model's nib is designated a “No. 8” nib? Not Jinhao. Not Bock. Not me. So why you?

 

29 minutes ago, VillersCotterets said:

And how they refer to their ink feed systems : Nib Sections for ink feed systems with a diameter of 8 mm.

 

and that says “No. 8”, ”Number 8”, or “#8” where?

 

Who says this pen model has a 8mm-diameter feed anyway? Or are you suggesting that, because someone else has managed to jam a Bock nib type 380 (not “No. 8”) into a Jinhao X159 and got the pen to write, it therefore redefines what the pen model has a nib size-wise? If so, I have successfully jammed a Nikko G nib into a Jinhao X450 pen and got it to write continuously (which is a well-known ‘mod’ and hardly a feat); so what size does that make the Jinhao X450's nib?

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by A Smug Dill

[VillersCotterets]

11 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

What has that got to do...? [...] Who says this ...? Not me. So why you? that says ... where? Who says ...? Or are you suggesting...? If so, [...] so what...?

Here we go again. The avalanche of bait questions.



You scour all the forums every day to insert borderline unkind comments and start controversies to keep yourself busy in endless debates, under the pretext that you are here to refute the lies and tell your truth with radical frankness. A few months ago I added you to my ignore list, a first for me in over ten years, because you derailed otherwise enjoyable discussions. It took the intervention of a moderator to salvage one of them. I hoped you had learned your lesson but as soon as I unblock you, you are back, this time more efficient at flying under the moderators' radar. There's no point in waving your bait around; knowing you, I'm not taking the bait anymore. You're back on my block list for as long you persist on nudging discussions this unpleasant way.

[A Smug Dill]

7 minutes ago, VillersCotterets said:

You're back on my block list for as long you persist on nudging discussions this unpleasant way.

 

If that helps you maintain the dearly held belief that the Jinhao X159 has a 8mm-diameter feed from which you simply don't want to depart, hey, be my guest, knock yourself out, or whatever. It's irresponsible for you to try to spread that belief to other hobbyists without validating it for yourself or showing others objective proof of its factual correctness, however, especially if they are looking to source suitable replacement nibs. I at least have gone to non-trivial lengths to find what the manufacturer has stated in its marketing collateral about the nib size, as well as shown how the feed is not 8mm in diameter. You can't just wish the design magically into something congruent with what you're telling others, or expect everyone else to stay mum in case it makes you look or feel bad (cf. “this unpleasant way”).

 

Instead of back-pedalling and admitting you were factually incorrect, which should be no big deal for anyone in on online discussion forum as we all get things wrong from time to time, you're turning this into an ad hominem attack. Suit yourself, by all means.

[USG]

So has anyone actually fitted another nib on the X159?  😉

You don't have to be unhappy with the nib on your pen to want to try a different one,  it's a hobby, right.... 🙂

[JonSzanto]

On 10/12/2022 at 10:47 AM, USG said:

So has anyone actually fitted another nib on the X159?  😉

You don't have to be unhappy with the nib on your pen to want to try a different one,  it's a hobby, right.... 🙂

 

Precisely!!

I just got one. The pen body is perfectly acceptable, and to a degree the nib is, as well (if boring). Why would I consider a nib swap? So I can have something other than a stupid old F tip! It's not a big thing, it's not the end of the world, but my handwriting - and that is what these pens are used for - prefer a wider line, and often an italic grind. So I'm considering replacing it with a nice 80-year-old "Hundred Year" nib from Waterman.

That said, it really would be nice to just get some of the information on possible nib replacements without all the pedantic and contentious postings. I don't think that is too much to ask.

[JonSzanto]

Yes, all I want is to try to find a nib with a wider tip (NOT by some bogus grind, please) and asking if there are nibs that fit this type of pen, as maybe experienced through groups of people, was what I was trying to find out.

 

I received one of these pens about 4 hours ago. It is inked and I have written with it. I'd like to change the writing experience to match my needs, nothing more than that. 

[Karmachanic]

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