Pelikan Edelstein Apatite (Ink of the Year 2022)

[Misfit]

Pity it won’t be part of the Pelikan Hubs this year. 

[Bristol24]

Thank you for the review.

 

Cliff

[mizgeorge]

I have no idea how I missed this first time around - I think it must have been whilst I was having my analogue-only holiday! 

 

Thank you so much @namrehsnoom - another brilliant review, and one which has confirmed that this is not an ink I want or need. 

[manolo]

Impressive review (but I don't like that colour).

Thank you.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Great Review.

 

Just picked it up at my B&M. I had to order it. Times are not good.

It don't shade....or shades very little....Using a Pelikan 215 M.

 

Using, a 100g copy paper, don't remember what one. A good one though. I stopped buying 80g copy paper. Normally I would buy 90g, but decided to by the 100g with out looking at the price.

I was given three sheets of Platinum Navigator....don't know the grammage but is a heavier paper. Very nice to write on but  don't promote shading. And my stand by Oxford Optic 90g.

 

Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Brown EF, shades a bit on the Oxford Optic and the 100g copy paper. Not as much as I expected, now that I think of it.

 

As nice feeling as the heavier Platinum Navigator paper is, it shows little to no shading with 4001 Brilliant Brown either.  Nor the Apatite.

 

Luckily it was no problem to find my Clairefontaine Triomphe. Shading little to none.

Perhaps it's a printing ink, in with printing I get a slight bit of shading. There is a hint of shading when printing on all four papers.

 

4001Brilliant Brown shades a little bit; but that is a EF nib.

 

I'd have to dig out my Jade to see if Apatite's as blaaaa.

The color is ok, not so disturbing to me as it was to the reviewer. Of course I've not looked at pages of it. I just see it as a different turquoise and there are lots of different turquoises. 

 

Could be, it will be gifted. At least I got to use my back weighted brass bodied Pelikan 215, a pen I've not used for ages....good feeling pen. That is a problem when one has a 100 pens and 70 or more  are  in the 'good' category. Add the 100 inks and time on paper per ink or pen is limited.

[ajoe]

Let's just say I don't have the apatite for that color.

[Bo Bo Olson]

It could be I'd be more of your opinion to the color, in daylight and not under room light.

Is it better for an ink to be a bit too bold, than a bit washed out?*

 

*I do like two toned shading inks, which many folks that like saturated inks, would call wishy-washy or pastel.

[ajoe]

3 minutes ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Is it better for an ink to be a bit too bold, than a bit washed out?*

 

In my opinion it is. Washed out inks are hard to read and distracting.

[inkstainedruth]

22 hours ago, ajoe said:

Let's just say I don't have the apatite for that color.

Good one!

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Bo Bo Olson]

Well allow me to change my mind, and with an OEF 790 Geha semi-flex.

I'm editing so am using EF pens which I seldom do, using F's normally. Vintage EF and nibs are narrower than modern Pelikan nibs...........the mildness of the shading could be because of the very narrow nib.............will eventually try it with an M.

Once, I would have been happy with shading from a EF nib.....maybe I should still be.

It does shade. Wet much better than dry.

The OP used many papers I don't have and a few that I did, I didn't dig out....the papers being used are some I'd tested R&K's Alt-gruen-gold with.

 

Mondi color copy 100g, mild shading. Originally I thought this a good paper, It's ok, but not on my buy again list.

Clairefontaine DPC  100g mild shading, totally unexpected. That paper was a disappointing and ended up in the printer real fast.

Papyrus Color Copy 100g, another paper that's headed towards the printer, shades but only a little. It was headed there before this test....One of those reserve papers should one run out of what ever paper that is in the printer.

Clairefontaine ClarAlfa 120g...barely shades. Another great disappointment. As soon as I'm out of DPC, this one gets the printer call, before Payyrus.

 Avery Zweckform 170g, very slick/smooth. Until the ink dried, I thought no wonder I pulled it out of the printer. Some shading, that grew less as the ink dried.

I'll not cry if it ends up back in the printer.

Heavy laid no name (160 g or so).....not much shading.

Ancient...'70's paper. Eaton's Corrasable (bond) typewriter paper 'medium weight' 16 pounds 25% cotton. Often a wonder paper...but a bleed through champ...type writing paper was only coated on once side. Only some shading....

 

It's a nice enough ink, but no shading monster........of course I was using a vintage OEF.....I got to see what it's like in an M.

It will have to wait...I have 14 pens inked, and I'm supposed to have only 7 so I can use more ink.

[inkstainedruth]

I have a sample of it and IIRC Golden Beryl that were swag from that year's Pelikan Hub (our Hubmaster had to buy bottles -- on his dime, IIRC -- and then divvy the samples up because Pelikan claimed there was a bottle shortage).  And over 2 years later, I keep finding the ziplock bag my sample vials are in, and still have not tried either ink....  

OTOH, I did like Rose Quartz, even though it's sort a pale color (it's still pale, but legible, in a pen with a broader nib, like my M405 Stresemann, which has a B nib).

Ruth Morrissonaka inkstainedruth

[Bo Bo Olson]

First, that Geha 790 was barrel marked OEF, but is a EF, and a Maxi-semi-flex or I'd sent it back. Being vintage that is a narrow EF.

Second...folks here were right my Burl diplomat was made in Japan, in it's M nib is an F. And has a mini-converter

and F to EF is no improvement in shading.

 

I guess I'll have to go B. The Amethyst 200. As soon as the last of the old ink whisks out.

The only papers of those listed that shaded was the the very slick Avery Zweckform 170g...and that was mild.

A little bit on a no name paper.

Some shading on the Eaton......

All in all, a disappointing ink for shading.

Nice color, but it don't Tango.

Glad I didn't buy two bottles.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Tegernseeis, Germany a tourist attraction, and Gmund paper is made there.

The lady in my old folk's gymnastics class was there and because I turned her on to paper went to the factory and bought me and hereself some...but being 'noobie' didn't mark down which...much less the gramage. Still a good paper.

So with my Pelikan 200's B nib there is some shading, and the Geha EF, a touch.

But It's not worth digging out my best paper, my Gmund 170g paper to further torture my self.

 

The tone of the ink is ok, I enjoy it's color when editing. It stands out enough for that.

 

If one got the money, pay Gumnd for fountain pen friendly paper samples and dither for ages...because the cost is high. I had ten samples...the first two were free.

 

I ran though a lot of then 'new' inks testing the papers. The less crowded with 'Let it Be' my ink code word. papers failed. Then, there was a long dither process with the four better/best papers.

Make sure you ask for the fountain pen friendly papers, in they make art papers which are very, not good for fountain pens. 

 

You don't really need four or five cases of beer (don't know the cost of US beer any more) , when you can get 50 or 100 sheets of very good to great writing paper. That's why it took me at least 3-4 years of heavy dithering.

[Bo Bo Olson]

On 1/26/2023 at 5:33 PM, Bo Bo Olson said:

The pen I was going to quote, has different ink in it. Not Apatite. I had it once in a Pelikan 215 M once.......it didn;'t shade there either.

I inked my 'new' medium-large Faber Castell Progress 66 G, with the Osmia brandmark 'diamond' in the finial. OM, semi-nail.

Again....I really wish it shaded for me....I have 7-8 cery good to better papers, and only on Avery Zweckform 170g did I get any shading worth while and it was printed. Zweckform is so slick nearly anything will shade on it.

The light liveliness of the light turquoise ink is not going to bother me. It will go to the back of my Edelstein drawer....for me it didn't shade....and I have some of those papers the OP used.

A very, very fine selections of papers.

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

I had wanted something turquoise and grabbed Apatite again....and only after inking did I go back and read....I am editing so used my marbled brown 200 EF...

Not a B, I was going to use someday, to get that shading.

 

Worse of all I had that ink in a pen that doesn't seem to want to work well, a very dry nail Faber-Castel 66G with an Osmia finial.

OK, two editing pens...I'll be reaching for the Pelikan first....sooner or later I'll empty the ink out of the Fabber-Castel...in I really don't like nails and I paid too much for it, thinking it would have an Osmia nib. The nail nib was unexpected, but it was having to compete with ball points in the modern day of carbon paper.

Ah Ha...an OM, so if canted suddenly writes  wider and a bit easier, is still too dry an pen for this ink. Going to try a small load of Iroshizuku ink in it. If that don't make it write easier, it will go in the sell at a live auction box.

Kon-piki saved the pen, it is wet enough to let the pen write smoothly on copy paper.