Budget 2000. The Jinhao 80 Lamy 2000 Clone

[J120]

I don't know how I feel about this. It looks great and probably writes great.  $8.98 on Ebay so it is value for money. Jinhao prefers the C/C side of cloning so this makes me wonder of someone else has a piston filler version coming. No hooded nib.

 

[Jamerelbe]

I think I'd call this a "homage" to the Lamy 2000, rather than a rip-off or clone - it preserves much of the aesthetic, apart from the nib.  [Others might be less generous though!] 

 

I'd be interested to know how well the cap seals to prevent ink dry-out - that's often where these cheaper copies let themselves down...

[J120]

@Jamerelbe It is a tribute pen but I use that interchangeably with clone when they are thus close.

 

It's a Jinhao, it will write and seal well. I'm certain of it. Whether I can put some of the after market Lamy style nibs on it to get a stub or broad is the question 

[Sailor Kenshin]

Not a clone, not even a tribute.  No piston, no hooded nib. Probably writes well enough, though.

[Karmachanic]

Metal and/or Plastique clutch ring?

Ordered as a possible give away.

[J120]

Nice packaging tube in the official version. Jinhao has 6.8cm long 3.4mm if you want the full Lamy experience.  

[Dan Carmell]

The Kaco Edge is something of a tribute to the 2000, at least in exterior styling. Inside, open nib and c/c filler. 
 

I found this pen on AliExpress, marked only MSBH on the cap. It’s brushed steel and also a c/c filler, but its nib presentation seems the closest to the 2000. The creative cap and clip detailing on this pen makes it more a homage to the 2000 than a slavish copy, IMO. Writes nicely too—fortunately not as wetly as a 2000, which is why I didn’t keep my EF Lamy 2000. 

[J120]

Fude and 1.0 Long knife available.  

Possible alternative option to swapping in a Lamy nib. 

[socialmoth]

Two questions:

1) Is it made of Makrolon?

2) If it's made of Makrolon, should we expect cracking issues a la Kaco Edge?

 

The pen looks like a promising homage you could theoretically swap Lamy hardware into via the nib and feed; for that, I think it's an interesting thing to have. Can't quite call it a copy entirely, I think; else, we'd have issues between Sailor, Montblanc, and Inoxcrom.

[J120]

A set is scheduled to arrive Tuesday and I will be able to compare it with a Kaco Edge. I expect more out of this from a quality standpoint because it is a Jinaho. I have never had one model not write or have a qc issue. The Edge was and still is a quality pen. The cap crack is unfortunate but did not ruin the pen for me. 

[Dan Carmell]

1 hour ago, J120 said:

 The cap crack is unfortunate but did not ruin the pen for me. 

I had a cap crack in a 2000; Lamy replaced the cap. So cracks definitely happen with this material. 

[J120]

@Dan CarmellGood to know. The cracks are minor and never affected my use of the pen. 

[Helen350]

Decided to order.  Looking forward to writing with it along with my Lamy 2000, which I rarely ink.

Have fallen in love with my MaJohn A1s these last 4 months, which have continually stayed inked.

[J120]

The pens are in. First impression is it is Makrolon. It is a Jinhao so it writes well and is made well.

 

Something interesting is that when you clean the pens out initially you realize there is blue ink in the pens. I have never know Jinhao to do this so either they are taking the "inspired by" to the heart or it is a coincidence. I have more in the mail and I am interested if they also have the blue testing ink in them. 

 

I have to find an alternative way to take pictures and upload them or reduce the size of the images because basic shots on the phone are too big to upload all of a sudden. 

[A Smug Dill]

20 minutes ago, J120 said:

I have to find an alternative way to take pictures and upload them or reduce the size of the images because basic shots on the phone are too big to upload all of a sudden. 

 

Seeing as you haven't created any albums in the FPN Image Gallery, and therefore couldn't have uploaded your photos and then embedded them in your posts from there, my guess is you simply used up your user account's total quota for attachments, and it was only “sudden” because you haven't been watching your usage and managing your image upload strategy accordingly. (No, you cannot go and remove older images you posted to make space.)

 

Spoiler

Just to pre-empt, what you need to know about how to go forward can be found in posts one to three linked steps from what I've posted above.

 

[J120]

@A Smug Dill Thank you for the information.  

Now back to the Jinhao 80. 

 

When the Lamy nibs and the calligraphy longknife options all come in I will provide an update on any issues with nib exchange compatibility or noticeable ink flow concerns observed  The factory Jinhao nib is first time everytime suitable if you need a  .3, f, or ef. I will report back in a week on how the factory version holds up in the wild. 

 

There were 4 pens in this order and two black clipped versions. The risk one takes with independent sellers on Ebay and this is the same account I had issues with before about delivering the correct items. I am giving the seller the benefit of the doubt in correcting it but i will not be purchasing from that store again. 

[kpong11]

Other than clip design, this pen is also similar to Lamy Profile 80, maybe that why they called this as a Jinhao 80

[J120]

Lamy has a "look" and this is a franken-pen type take on a few of those "looks." If the 2000 and the 80 needed a surrogate, then Jinhao would carry and produce this baby. 

[Sailor Kenshin]

12 hours ago, J120 said:

The pens are in. First impression is it is Makrolon. It is a Jinhao so it writes well and is made well.

 

Something interesting is that when you clean the pens out initially you realize there is blue ink in the pens. I have never know Jinhao to do this so either they are taking the "inspired by" to the heart or it is a coincidence. I have more in the mail and I am interested if they also have the blue testing ink in them. 

 

I have to find an alternative way to take pictures and upload them or reduce the size of the images because basic shots on the phone are too big to upload all of a sudden. 

I bought a pastel color set of Jin-Faris.  They all had traces of blue ink, discovered much to my chagrin when I put pink in the pink one.

 

And I'm sure these Jinhao Makrolon pens will write better than the Kaco, but I went with Kaco because I wanted a brown one.

[socialmoth]

Of all the times Jinaho could have used a #5, I wish this were one of them