wettest fountain pen

[patrik.nusszer]

Which is the wettest fountain pen you have?

Also, which pen brand do you think produce wetter pens?

Parker, Pelikan, Jinhao, Kaweco?

I am university student and need it for fast note taking.

Please take it into account.

(I am implying the most expensive pens would not be quite practical for me.)

[DvdRiet]

It depends A LOT on the tuning of the nib, of course, but since you're asking, my absolute wettest writer is a Laban Skeleton. 

[amberleadavis]

7 minutes ago, DvdRiet said:

It depends A LOT on the tuning of the nib, of course, but since you're asking, my absolute wettest writer is a Laban Skeleton. 

 

 

OOOO I think it is so pretty!

 

 

My Pineider Grand Belleza is gusher.

[Wolverine1]

Of course pens can be made wetter depending on how you tune a nib ( in my case, I get my nibs tuned by experienced nib-meisters). But, in my experience, both my Pelikan M1000 fountain pens were by far the wettest writers right out of the box.

[DvdRiet]

3 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

OOOO I think it is so pretty!

 

Yes! I stumbled upon it when I was looking for a demonstrator that I could turn into an eyedropper and I thought it was so incredibly cool looking that I got it anyway, despite not being able to make an eyedropper out of it. And at first I was bummed that you couldn't see tons of ink sloshing around in there, but I actually like it much better with just the ink you can see in the converter, especially if I use a brighter color. I have the rhodium-plated one and the ink looks like a pretty jewel in the middle of the pen and I love it! 

 

10 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

My Pineider Grand Belleza is gusher.

This is good to know! I've kind of had my eye on these recently...

[patrik.nusszer]

54 minutes ago, Wolverine1 said:

Of course pens can be made wetter depending on how you tune a nib ( in my case, I get my nibs tuned by experienced nib-meisters). But, in my experience, both my Pelikan M1000 fountain pens were by far the wettest writers right out of the box.

I have heard Pelikan pens have a nice inkflow.

Do you think a pelikan M200 would be as good?

[Geslina]

4 minutes ago, patrik.nusszer said:

I have heard Pelikan pens have a nice inkflow.

Do you think a pelikan M200 would be as good?

I have an M200 with a fine nib, it’s pretty wet.  Definitely more so than a Kaweco fine nib.  I would say it is more like most of the medium nibs I have, both in gold or steel. I found it to be a little too wet when I first got it, but grew to like it.  I remember posting about it here, when I was thinking of also getting a Pelikan with a gold nib, and someone had the opinion that the M200 was just as good a writer as the higher end gold nib Pelikan pens.  I still don’t have one with a gold nib, so can’t say for sure….but am thinking about getting one.  Compared to other steel nib pens I have, the M200 feels different.  Softer and smoother.

[A Smug Dill]

1 hour ago, patrik.nusszer said:

I have heard Pelikan pens have a nice inkflow.

Do you think a pelikan M200 would be as good?

 

No. The M200 steel nibs are good writers, but Pelikan's gold nibs are known for being stiffer, broader and wetter; and the larger (and more expensive) the nib, the broader and gushier for a given width grade, it seems. So, if you're after wettest, then I think you ought to plan to spend the mostest and get what you're after; why settle for less?

[patrik.nusszer]

5 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

No. The M200 steel nibs are good writers, but Pelikan's gold nibs are known for being stiffer, broader and wetter; and the larger (and more expensive) the nib, the broader and gushier for a given width grade, it seems. So, if you're after wettest, then I think you ought to plan to spend the mostest and get what you're after; why settle for less?

Well, the problem is that (which I forgot to mention and I am sorry for that) is that the very expensive models you are talking about are not quite adequate for a lecture note taking, have zero practicality. I am uni student and I need something that is less of a pain if broken or something that others would not steal.

[Licue]

29 minutes ago, patrik.nusszer said:

Well, the problem is that (which I forgot to mention and I am sorry for that) is that the very expensive models you are talking about are not quite adequate for a lecture note taking, have zero practicality. I am uni student and I need something that is less of a pain if broken or something that others would not steal.

Very sensible.

Do NOT get a pen where you'd have to go into full mourning if it gets lost or damaged - both could easily happen in university life.

 

I also doubt that you really need MAXIMUM wetness. Kinda the opposite actually, I think at some point too much wetness would become a detriment (-> drying time, bleedthrough, ink mileage).

Better choose a pen of good/moderate wetness - the M200 could be a quite good choice imo (and actually is already on the upper end of what I would suggest for a student pen price wise).

[A Smug Dill]

10 hours ago, patrik.nusszer said:

Well, the problem is that (which I forgot to mention and I am sorry for that) is that the very expensive models you are talking about are not quite adequate for a lecture note taking, have zero practicality.

 

The wettest fountain pen also has zero practicality if you're not using it to produce art with a process that takes as long as it takes.

 

10 hours ago, Licue said:

I also doubt that you really need MAXIMUM wetness. Kinda the opposite actually,

 

Exactly. Why even aim to acquire and use a pen that is impractically wet, when someone else (i.e. the lecturer) is going to dictate the pace at which one must write and/or turn over the page, and the payload is dependent on being able to capture content at that pace as opposed to getting ‘maximum’ (imagined) enjoyment from that process? A pen that writes smoothly enough, legibly enough (i.e. not so dry to make the ink marks pale and difficult to read on review), and consistently enough (i.e. does not skip and either cause one to lose content or slows down one's writing pace) at an affordable price should completely trump ‘wet’, the way I see it.

 

10 hours ago, patrik.nusszer said:

I am uni student and I need something that is less of a pain if broken or something that others would not steal.

 

So get a cheap(er) eyedropper-filled pen (e.g. an Opus 88 Picnic or Koloro, or a model in Fine Writing International's Planets series, which is cheaper than, say, a Ranga), and spend extra money on getting a nibmeister to customise and tune the nib and ink flow to your liking while the pen (and nib) still looks like nothing much and does not attract attention; only you know how much you spent on it all up, and how good it is. That way, you have all the performance and reliability, and none of the showiness, for the money you've spent. If you want a nicer looking pen to use in other situations for actual/personal enjoyment, then keep it separate.

 

p.s. Why I suggested the Opus 88 and FWI models is that they're really, really sturdily built. FWI advertises that the arcylic barrels on the Planets series are nigh unbreakable.

 

 

[Wolverine1]

Patrik - well I have only the 2 Pelikan M-1000 pens,I have no experience using any other model of Pelikan pens.

However, others, especially A Smug Dill has some very useful comments about the sort of pens that would be most appropriate for taking lecture notes in your university classes. I used fountain pen throughout my university career in the late 1990's, and in my experience, you would be better off with fountain pens that are not too wet. You have to have a pen that writes well, and doesnot take a long time to dry on  the page, especially if the professor is talking fast. Wet pens are, in  my mind, not as practical to use in a lecture note taking situation. Just my experience. Best of luck.

[amberleadavis]

8 hours ago, patrik.nusszer said:

Well, the problem is that (which I forgot to mention and I am sorry for that) is that the very expensive models you are talking about are not quite adequate for a lecture note taking, have zero practicality. I am uni student and I need something that is less of a pain if broken or something that others would not steal.

 

 

I just wrote a review about the osprey pen that I purchased recently. For $18 you can get a wonderful pen with a quality steel nib. When I'm back in front of my computer and not using text to speech, I will send you the link.

[Karmachanic]

I agree that a wet pen is not the best for note taking.  I suggest a Wing Sung 698. Inexpensive (aliexpress), large ink capacity, sturdy and will take Plumix/Pluminix/Kakuno, and Jowo/Bock #5 nibs with a little work (flatten the curve a bit).

[Honeybadgers]

my vintage double broad superflex waterman 52.

 

Basically unusable. Damn thing can only write on stuff that's pretty much waterproof.

[Marioferu]

I have a Pelikan Souverän M600 vintage which is 18 k gold Fine nib and it is pretty wet with the relatively dry Pelikan Edelstein inks. It draws a rather middle size stroke. 

[amberleadavis]

9 hours ago, Honeybadgers said:

my vintage double broad superflex waterman 52.

 

Basically unusable. Damn thing can only write on stuff that's pretty much waterproof.

 

Let me borrow it, I might be able to use up some of my ink. 

 

[MidSouthern-Dad]

As a student, you're not going to use premium paper, so you DON'T want a superwet pen.  Typical notebook paper soaks up ink like a sponge.

To answer your original question, I had a Pelikan M1000 with a medium nib that had uncontrollable gushing from the nib.  Even though it was "M", it wrote like a BBBB. 

The huge amount of ink soaks through to the other side of the paper (bleedthrough).  Also, a high ink flow means that the pen get empty fast.

I had to send it to a nib expert to control the ink flow.

You want a medium to dry writing pen, with as rigid a nib as possible, in order to write fast.

Lastly, you have a risk of dropping the pen, or theft.

I used the Lamy Safari a lot during my student days.  Later, I used the Parker 51.  Both are good bets.

 

[Honeybadgers]

I didn't even think to actually ANSWER the question but midsouthern-Dad is super right.

 

You want a DRY pen that doesn't skip with a firm nib for fast note taking and a dry ink that doesn't feather or bleed.

 

I'd recommend something like a muji aluminum, lamy safari, twsbi eco, pilot metro, etc. All with F or EF nibs.

 

And for ink, pelikan 4001 black or blue. Black is cheap and INCREDIBLY well behaved. 

 

 

[amberleadavis]

Here was the review I was telling you about.