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Updated list.

 

Red section's looking sparse. I may have to introduce my KWZ Red to a black ink.

 

BLUE
Octopus Schwarz

KWZ Warsaw Dreaming
Akkerman Dutch Masters  Ruisdaels Stormachtig Blauw.
Sailor Kobe #51 Kano cho Midnight
Sailor Kobe #70 Rokku Forest Blue
Diamine Regency
Noodler’s Dark Matter
Diamine 1864
KWZ IG Blue Black
RO Thunderstorm
R&K Leipziger Schwarz
Ferris Wheel Press Tanzanite Sky.
Akkerman Dutch Masters  Ruisdaels Stormachtig Blauw.
Pen BBs 456
Van Dieman Pepperberry

PenBBS #274 Obsidian

PenBBS #434

 

BROWN
KWZ IG Gold
Taccia Ukiyo-e Usuzumi
Sailor Do-you
Sailor Yama-Guri
Cult Pens' Diamine Deep Dark Brown

 

GREEN
Noodler’s El Lawrence
Iroshizuku Hoteison
Papier Plume Iron Lace
Noodler's Zhivago.
KWZ Hunter Green
KWZ Rotten Green
KWZ Midnight Green
Sailor Miruai
Lamy Crystal Obsidian

Cult Pens' Diamine Deep Dark Green

 

PURPLE
Bungu Box Ink of the Witch

Noodler’s Pasternack
Diamine Purple Rain
Diamine Eclipse

Diamine Arabian Nights.
Sailor Chushu

Sailor Shigure
Sailor Studio #650
KWZ Grey Plum

 

RED
KWZ IG Red #3

 

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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27 minutes ago, JonSzanto said:

I think I'm going to have to order that up!

 

Sorry 'bout that 😁 Based upon your assessment I'll move it to the purple section.

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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11 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

Haven't found any reviews.

 

I didn't expect you would. The absence of reviews doesn't change the colour of an ink, though. :)

 

11 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

The swatches on retailer site look straight black.

 

From the manufacturer's web site:

Tassie Seasons' Pepperberry is a deeply dark black-blue ink, with a slight violet hue,  ...‹snip›... Pepperberry is Van Dieman's darkest blue ink to date, bordering on jet black with broad and wet-writing pens, but exhibiting blue and violet hues under light and a dark red sheen.

Van Dieman's Ink Pepperberry

Source: Van Dieman's Ink

 

The average RGB value seems to be approximately (32,32,39).

 

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3 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

The absence of reviews doesn't change the colour of an ink, though.

 

True. But if I can't see what it looks like I can't see what it looks like.

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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Diamine Arabian Nights.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/340788-your-favorite-purple-black-inks/?do=findComment&comment=4124668

 

25 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

Sailor Chushu - unobtainium

 

That ink is very much currently in production and readily available to retail customers.

https://en.sailor.co.jp/product/13-0350/

https://en.sailor.co.jp/product/13-1008/

 

I was actually going to order another (discontinued 50ml) bottle or two of it yesterday, but ended up removing it from my cart minutes before finalising my order.

 

14 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

But if I can't see what it looks like I can't see what it looks like.

 

There is a distinction between ink reviews, and images/swatches of an ink.

 

24 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

Lamy Crystal Obsidian

 

What about PenBBS #274 Obsidian, then? Not that you're likely to find reviews of that ink at the moment.

15ml-Sub-packaging-Penbbs-Ink-Popular-Co

Source: AliExpress

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8 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

There is a distinction between ink reviews, and images/swatches of an ink.

 

You think?

Arabian Nights added, and Chushu edited.

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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13 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

What about PenBBS #274 Obsidian, then? Not that you're likely to find reviews of that ink at the moment.

 

Isn't obsidian (the rock, not the ink) supposed to be black?  That picture looks like a gorgeous blue-black.

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29 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

Sorry 'bout that 😁 Based upon your assessment I'll move it to the purple section.

 

Nope, the sorry's on me: I saw your comment, didn't trust my eyes, and did a light wash with a damp q-tip over it. This ink is very much a dark, dark blue, not showing much in the way of purple. Just the light in my room, I suppose.

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PenBBS #376 克拉瑪依 (Karamay, a prefecture-level city in the north of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, People's Republic of China):

HTB1QEYcbiLxK1Rjy0Ffq6zYdVXaK.jpg

Source: AliExpress

 

PenBBS #434 and #438:

H3c7fe20811a149fb9e31419dd07c2dcf0.jpg

Source: AliExpress

 

PenBBS #524:

171651450_PenBBSFountainPenInk524.jpg.a174696442ee42b1371da76e4e1b783b.jpg

Source: AliExpress

 

(I'm only picking the PenBBS Fountain Pen Inks that I can add to my shopping cart right now, to check that they are not unobtanium.)

 

18 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Isn't obsidian (the rock, not the ink) supposed to be black?

 

I think so. I remember checking out a few loose pieces of it at a local market, because I have both Lamy Crystal Ink Obsidian and PenBBS Fountain Pen Ink No.274 Obsidian, and wondered which one would be closer. Neither ink is as black as the stone.

 

18 minutes ago, LizEF said:

That picture looks like a gorgeous blue-black.

 

Yeah. It's been a while since I've written with it, though, so I can't remember how dark or black it is coming out of a Japanese Fine nib.

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16 minutes ago, lgsoltek said:

I’d say Shigure is a better closer-to-black purple.

 

I agree!

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3 hours ago, lgsoltek said:

I’d say Shigure is a better closer-to-black purple.

 

I'll be revisiting all the selections to weed out any hurriedly chosen inks that are in the neighbourhood of black, but exhibit too much of the other hue. For example black blue blacks are in, whereas blue blacks are out. At this point relying upon multiple reviews, and input such as yours.

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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BTW: On obsidian, there actually can be a number of colors at play (not just solid black), depending upon the mineral content of the magma that produced it. In shards or translucent pieces, you often find a green/turquoise hue, and others appear a bit less frequently. 

 

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Pennonia Lila Árnyék

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Colorverse Extra Dimension.

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If Shigure is close enough to black to qualify, you might also consider Sailor Kobe #9 Suma Purple.  To my eye, it is blacker and more somber than Shigure in a fine or wet nib.  

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Thanks to all for your valuable suggestions and insights.

 

The method has been to look at several reviews of each ink, and see if the inks fit my subjective criteria. I have tried to eliminated those which exhibit an obvious hue.

 

Those marked ? indicate that I'm not convinced, but there may be a possibility, and I'll check again. Often it seems nib dependent.

 

BLUE
Octopus Schwarz
KWZ Warsaw Dreaming
KWZ IG Blue Black
Akkerman Dutch Masters  Ruisdaels Stormachtig   Blauw.
Sailor Kobe #51 Kano cho Midnight
Sailor Kobe #70 Rokku Forest Blue
Diamine 1864
Noodler’s Dark Matter
RO Thunderstorm ?
R&K Leipziger Schwarz
Van Dieman Pepperberry

PenBBS #274 Obsidian
Penonia Lila Árnyék
Colorverse Extra Dimension


BROWN
KWZ IG Gold
Taccia Ukiyo-e Usuzumi
Sailor Do-you
Sailor Yama-Guri ?
 

GREEN
Noodler’s El Lawrence
Noodler's Zhivago.
Iroshizuku Hoteison ?
Papier Plume Iron Lace
KWZ Hunter Green ?
KWZ Rotten Green
KWZ Midnight Green
Lamy Crystal Obsidian


PURPLE
Bungu Box Ink of the Witch
Diamine Purple Rain ?
Diamine Eclipse
Sailor Chushu
Sailor Studio #650
KWZ Grey Plum ?

 

RED
KWZ IG Red #3
Diamine Writers Blood?

 

 

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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