Dating Pelikan fountain Pen

[Mercian]

Just now, jungkind said:

https://thepelikansperch.com/2014/10/26/pelikan-nib-on-a-chain/

Hurrah!
Thank you!

[jungkind]

[Cjtamu]

That’s awesome.

[Inkyways]

Wow ... thank you for identifying this.. and the link. So This is an original -limited edition pen then???? I am surprised ... 

I am not sure if this pen is M250 or 140. the nib is Vintage Pelican 14c 585 -M nib and the nib on the chain is the same nib- F point. I have a very little knowledge about Pelican Vintage pens .

This my pen . It need a little CLC ... need to clean and polish it . It has a M nib and the ( Ear-ring )  that is what I am going to call it.  Nib is a Fantastic 14c F 585.

Sorry I could not post this before 

[OCArt]

I think it's a M250 as the tail end is too square for a 140.

[Inkyways]

Thank you @OCArt and @Mercian for the helpful  answers. 

@jungkind thank you for the photo and the interesting link.  By the way What Hasselblad you are using? I am also a photographer  and Use Hasselblad analog cameras.

 

I am adding a photo of my  small Pelican pens collections. I know now they are M200 and one m400.

Also I have this pen with a  calligraphy nib ( Steel stub ) it is the one with the plain Green body  leaning on the Key board. Is it 120 0r 205M series.

Also here I have a mechanical pencil. and a ball point pen and a rollerball pen it has a cap no clip. ( it was missing when it came to me. 

 

In my future lis to this collection I want to add 

100M/ and perhaps a 100nn / AND AS MY GRAIL PEN  600M VINTAGE  , ALL PENS IN FINE OR EF NIBS. a mission impossible  ?? you'll never know .

I got to the " pen hobbit"   some times back and I am in this Rabbit hole in it's deep end.  All my missions were MISSION-IMPOSSIBLES and that is how it was always  from the beginning.  Thank you all for all the helpfulness in finding facts on pens and writing.

_ Cyril

[jungkind]

@InkywaysSorry to disappoint you, but the camera reference comes from my smartphone that seems to have a camera module supplied by Hasselblad.

[inkstainedruth]

Thanks for posting the article link, jungkind.  That was fascinating reading!  I learn stuff all the time on FPN, thanks to the breadth of knowledge to be found -- and the generosity of the people who hang out here in the sharing of that knowledge.

And thanks to everyone who posted pix as well.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Inkyways]

2 hours ago, jungkind said:

@InkywaysSorry to disappoint you, but the camera reference comes from my smartphone that seems to have a camera module supplied by Hasselblad.

O.k I got it . Now a days Ai get to cheat us in anyways. Propaganda is driving in many ways .

 Thanks for the reply.

[tacitus]

I recently got a Ductus pen. So, I again post it with some photos.

 

Pelikan Ductus P3110 (2008-2012)

 

The Dactus⁽¹⁾ was introduced in the last year of the Epoch (2007), and had the same cartridge filling mechanism as the Epoch. The Ductus was effectively the successor to the Epoch. But, the Ductus was available only in silver (P3100) or gold (P3110) finish that the Epoch did not have. So, as it were, the Ductus was positioned as a high-end version of the Epoch, targeting at the high-end writing instrument market⁽²⁾.

Like the previous cartridge pens, the Ductus had a metal body. "The barrel is first lacquered, then turned into the right form, and then polished to a high sheen. Afterwards, the lines are created through engraving which is filled with precious metals - for the silver color we take Palladium, for the golden color 24 carat gold is used. The last step is a coating of clear lacquer which makes the surface not only smooth but also robust (Pelikan Ductus P3100)". The stripe design on the cap and barrel was intended to suggest exclusiveness and give a timeless accent (pelikan-collectibles) (Fig.1). Thus, Ductus had both a robust and luxurious appearance. With the Ductus, the design returned to a somewhat more classic direction (Pelikan: Ein Unternehmen schreibt Geschichte). The design of the pen was hailed at launch and won Stylus Magazine's Stylus Icon Award 2009 (Pelikan Ductus P3100). The Ductus has a snap cap. A metal logo was added to the cap top in 2010 (pelikan-collectibles) (Fig.3 right). The nib is wide and rugged, with striped lines engraved on it⁽³⁾. The nib was probably intended to harmonize with the body of the pen. The nib is 18 carat gold and is rhodium-plated. On both sides, the specifications of the nib is engraved. The collar and the feed seem to be the same as the Epoch (ぺん★ぱれーどっ！) (Fig.2). Like the Epoch, the Ductus uses a unique cartridge system⁽³⁾. By unscrewing the blind cap from the back of the barrel, the cartridge holder is pulled out. Cartridge holders were made of plastic in the Epoch, while in the Ductus, they were made of metal. The cartridge holder hold one long or two short international cartridges. According to Pelikan Ductus P3100, the Ductus accepts converters(Fig.4 bottom), but there is no bottle filling with the converter. It is only possible when the converter is pre-filled with a syringe (or directly from the bottle ink) and then inserted into the holder, but this is not practical. The filling system fits snugly, so there is no risk of misfitting cartridges (Pelikan’s Perch). This is an improvement over the Epoch. The Ductus is slightly heavier than the M1000, and the pen is slightly longer than the M800 (Pelikan’s Perch, pelikan-collectibles). Due to the heavy cap, the center of gravity is shifted backwards when the cap is posted (ぺん★ぱれーどっ！).

 

Overall, the Ducus is based on the Epoch, but is much more upscale than the Epoch.

The Ductus line was discontinued in 2015. Subsequently, Pelikan discontinued the high-end line of cartridge pens that had been in production since the Signum⁽⁴⁾. The cartridge pens were integrated into the Classic series (P200/P205). No matter how many great cartridge pens Pelikan made that won the design awards, did they not contribute to Pelikan's sales?

Note;⁽¹⁾The name "Ductus" was derived from the Latin "ductus" (military leadership, command, the conveyance of water, etc.) (Pelikan Ductus P3100, Oxford Latin Dictionary).
⁽²⁾In the same year (2007), the Majesty, positioned as a high-end version of Souverän, was launched.
⁽³⁾According to several reviewers (Pelikan’s Perch, Fountain Pen Network, etc.), they were attracted by its design, while they were disappointed by the nib when the cap was opened and the cartridge filling mechanism when the blind cap was opened.
⁽⁴⁾Pelikan still makes the Pelikano, Pura, and Classic, but the model that encompasses both the entry-level and the luxury line have disappeared.

 

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[tacitus]

Pelikan Majesty M7000 (2007-2012)

 

In 2007, for the first time in a long time, since the Toledo model, Pelikan introduced a new model Majesty: the M7000 and the M7005. Both are massive pens that incorporate a piston filler mechanism concealed in a sterling silver sleeve; the M7000 features a sterling silver cap with gold-plated accents and a two-tone nib. Based on this model, a limited edition of 170 fountain pens was released in 2008 to commemorate the company's 170th anniversary. It has three diamonds embedded in the pelican nest on the cap top and is entirely gold-plated. The nib was also monotone gold. The M7005, on the other hand, has eliminated gold plating and is characterized by its black resin cap and monotone nib.

Both the M7000 and the M7005 feature a Jugendstil style frieze on the cap top, a design taken directly from the façade of the stone walls of the Pelikan headquarters factory in Hanover, Germany, and depicts a pelican motif (Pelikan’s Perch)(Fig.3). The sleeve is striped and uneven, recalling the striped shafts of Pelikan's traditional Souverän series. The sleeve creates a sense of unity in the design, but opinions may differ because the traditional ink window is not directly visible. The barrel that secures the sleeve have a locking mechanism that makes a clicking sound at the end of the rotation (Fig.4 arrow). The sterling silver is platinum coated throughout, making it resistant to tarnishing. Turning the sleeve to remove it from the body shaft reveals a large ink chamber, a piston, and a turning knob. The section and piston knob are also made of sterling silver. The beak clip is spring-loaded. The cap band is stamped "Pelikan Germany Ag925" and the cap top is adorned with the current Pelikan single-chick logo (Fig.3). The cap has a plastic inner cap that prevents the section and the turning knob from being scratched when capped or posted. The nib is the same size as the M600, but the nib of the Majesty has a slightly wider shoulder (Fig.5). The scrollwork of the nib is concentric (Fig.2), which sets it apart from the Souverän series, and may be an attempt to match the Jugendstil style of the cap. As can be inferred from the metal construction, the pen is quite heavy for its size, with the M7000 weighing about 62 g, much heavier than the M1000; posting is possible, but in that case the pen's center of gravity is further back. In size, on the other hand, the Majesty is slightly larger than the M600 and slightly smaller than the M800 (Fig.5).

As indicated by the model numbers and the catalog of the time, the Majesty was positioned as the top-of-the-line pens over the models Toledo and Souverän (Pelikan-collectibles). At the same time, the cartridge filler Ductus was also launched. Probably, Pelikan planned to market its top-of-the-line fountain pens as a dual line of the Majesty and the Ductus (Fig.6). However, the launch of the Majesty drew mixed reactions, and like its counterpart the Ductus, opinions were split down the middle (Pelikan’s Perch, Fountain Pen Network, Fountain Pen Network). The nib was small and the price was high, and so on. In the end, the Majesty was not well received by the market? Production ended in 2012.

Unfortunately, no novel fountain pens with piston fillers have been developed since then, and most of the fountain pens released since then have been "self-reproduction" of the existing Souverän and Classic series or reproduction of the vintage models. I hope to see another fountain pen with an ambitious and innovative design/mechanism.

 

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Fig.3

The frieze with a pelican motif on the cap top (left).

 

Fig.4

The removed sleeve (left) and the barrel (right). The protrusion on the barrel (arrow) acts as a locking system when securing the sleeve.

 

Fig.5

Comparison with M800 (left) and M600 (right).

 

Fig.6

Majesty and Ductus.

 

Pelikan M7000 the 170th anniversary edition

 

 

 

Pelikan M7005