Pilot 3776 UEF nib - need an ink with a better flow (brand)

[richdirector]

For writing in my small Traveler Notebook i recently bought a 3776 with UEF nib. I have quite a few Japanese F and XF nibs but this has so far been the finest. I am finding it very scratchy so after a dark ink with a lubricated flow (that manages to dry quickly and also have a slight waterproofness if possible)

So far my Pilot VP F or Sailor slim is seeming far better ...

 

Another question - does the nib / writing smooth out with time? I am only on day 3 

 

Thanks 

Richard

[Mr.Rene]

Greetings!

Nice pen´s nibs...

What does WA code nib...UEF code ?? Thank you.

[alfredop]

Hi,

 

on my Platinum 3776 with EF (not UEF) nib I use Herbin Perle Noir to have a good flow.

 

Alfredo

[A Smug Dill]

I use Platinum Carbon Black in mine; but then, I first made my UEF nib write a little smoother with micro-mesh, quite likely at the expense of losing some of the needlepoint fineness. You could try Sailor Kiwaguro instead... 

[richdirector]

4 hours ago, Mr.Rene said:

Greetings!

Nice pen´s nibs...

What does WA code nib...UEF code ?? Thank you.

WA is an upturned nib and UEF is ultra extra fine... So another jump finer from EF

[AmandaW]

I use Platinum Carbon in mine too.

[richdirector]

thank you all

 

[RJS]

Pilot Blue Black is a great ink for fine nibs- lubricated and highly water resistant, and also low maintenance.

[rudyhou]

You mentioned PILOT 3776 UEF nib on the title, but I assume what you really meant was PLATINUM 3776 UEF. 

 

Platinum nibs in general have a feedback to them, regardless of the nib size.  The finer the line, the more you feel the feedback, hence feels like scratchy.  

 

If you prefer a smoother nib with a very fine line, you may want to try Pilot brand either EF nib or PO nib.  

 

When it comes to a very fine nib, I find Pilot Iroshizuku inks tend to give the best flow as they are generally very lubricated.  However, I'm not sure if they are waterproof.  

[rudyhou]

On 2/26/2021 at 12:40 AM, Mr.Rene said:

Greetings!

Nice pen´s nibs...

What does WA code nib...UEF code ?? Thank you.

 

UEF = Ultra Extra Fine (available on Platinum and Nakaya)

Platinum higher tier brand = Nakaya.

https://www.nakaya.org/en/manual/default.aspx?item=pensaki

 

WA = Wide Angle (I think) It gives a more forgiving writing angle with line width similar to a Medium nib (available on Pilot).

https://www.pilot.co.jp/promotion/library/001/pentopList.php

 

[ENewton]

My favorite ink, Sailor Kobe #9 Suma Purple, is water resistant, but in an ultra extra fine nib it might look closer to black than you would wish.

 

Sailor Shigure is a beautiful, dark, lubricated ink but unfortunately not very water resistant.

 

I agree that Iroshizuku inks might provide a solution for you if you consider them dark enough.  Some have a degree of water resistance.

 

    

[arcfide]

On 3/4/2021 at 12:12 AM, rudyhou said:

WA = Wide Angle (I think) It gives a more forgiving writing angle with line width similar to a Medium nib (available on Pilot).

https://www.pilot.co.jp/promotion/library/001/pentopList.php

 

 

It's short for Waverly I think, and I think it's supposed to write like a MF. 

[arcfide]

For dark, lubricated inks, I agree that trying Perle Noire and Iroshizuku inks might be worthwhile. The Carbon black inks (Kiwaguro and Platinum Carbon Black) can feel smooth because they write wetly. For writing a wet line, Sailor's inks I find to be quite wet as well. My favorite in my UEF is Platinum's Blue Black, but I also write with a very light touch and don't find the UEF too scratchy. You should have received a cartridge of BB with the pen, so you should be able to see whether you like it easily enough. Noodler's inks are also quite lubricated, and so you might find 54th Mass. or HOD worth a try. I think some of the Monteverde or MB inks are supposed to be a bit lubricated, so that would be worth trying, too. 

[richdirector]

Yes meant platinum UEF... It is harsher than my pilot EF and years away from my pilot waverly... I have platinum carbon black ink on order to try and gave it small working with micro mesh to make it a touch smoother... Still scratchier than I like but wait until reinked before I donate elsewhere. 

[A Smug Dill]

2 hours ago, richdirector said:

I have platinum carbon black ink

 

Do you have any Sailor Kiwaguro ink? It has a reputation for making nibs write more smoothly on the page without actually being a lubricating ink.

[richdirector]

10 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Do you have any Sailor Kiwaguro ink? It has a reputation for making nibs write more smoothly on the page without actually being a lubricating ink.

no but will get some in if it saves the pen for me  .... 

[richdirector]

On 2/25/2021 at 10:58 PM, AmandaW said:

I use Platinum Carbon in mine too.

Just had this arrive and it makes the pen work fine... Dries very quickly on my midori travelers paper partly due to thin line but love the matt finish and the fact it seems very lubricated.