Need help on this Unknown vintage fountain pen idetification

[Siamak]

Hi everyone, I have been a member awhile and I thank everyone here for all the posts they place ,for they have been a great help to me. This is my first post so please forgive me if I make any mistakes. I need and identification on a fountain pen, I will place the pictures which the seller has forwarded to me . If any one has any idea it would be greatly appreciated. 

I must add on the metal part of the nib section it is carved PRESDENT(top) and the word STELL (below) . On the barrel also the word UNIONE is clearly visible. 

Thank you all 

[carola]

Sorry, I am at a complete loss.

 

You did notice though, that the hood on the nib seems damaged?

[Siamak]

Hi Carola 

No I didn't and thank you for letting me know, after reading your message I zoomed in and yes there seems to be a chip where the metal and plastic meet on the section area. Good eye

[Bo Bo Olson]

Sorry, can't help.

[carola]

2 hours ago, Siamak said:

Hi Carola 

No I didn't and thank you for letting me know, after reading your message I zoomed in and yes there seems to be a chip where the metal and plastic meet on the section area. Good eye

 

That was what I meant. As cracks in the section can get really nasty (ink leaks), I thought I might point a finger.

If the seller doesn´t mention it and you file a complaint upon seeing it in person, he/she can always say that it was plainly visible in the pictures.

[Siamak]

Thank you for pointing it out I was so wrapped up with finding the origin of the pen I didn't even see the flaw! 🤔

[Siamak]

9 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Sorry, can't help.

Even the seller doesn't know the brand all he susoects is that, it is about 60 or more years old.  

[Dione]

9 hours ago, carola said:

 

That was what I meant. As cracks in the section can get really nasty (ink leaks), I thought I might point a finger.

If the seller doesn´t mention it and you file a complaint upon seeing it in person, he/she can always say that it was plainly visible in the pictures.

If it's an ebay seller he might say that but it wouldn't prevent his buyer from filing an ebay claim for not as described and getting a full refund

[carola]

8 hours ago, Dione said:

If it's an ebay seller he might say that but it wouldn't prevent his buyer from filing an ebay claim for not as described and getting a full refund

 

I have read that sentence "Pictures are part of the description" all to often.

[sidthecat]

I hate that - it's lazy and frequently deceptive. Yesterday, I told a seller that his "rare" vintage pen was a wreck...I may still buy it, but sellers don't watch enough 'Antiques Roadshow', otherwise they might better understand about condition.

[inkstainedruth]

Yeah, it's like going someplace to look at a pen and finding the nib has been removed from the pens because "gold" -- they don't realize that the intact pen may worth more than the few bucks than they'd have gotten for the tiny amount of gold they'd harvested. 

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Bo Bo Olson]

Yep, a Three pack of Beer, worth of nib, on a $100 pen. ,,,now worth much, much less.