Do You Recognize This Logo?

[tutelman]

I recently bought a fountain pen with the logo depicted in the attached photo. I think it is probably a fashion house brand, rather than a pen brand. I know it was made in Italy because the sterling silver maker’s mark is Italian. Unfortunately, all I can make out on the silver maker’s mark is 155. It may have an additional digit and the location lettering is not legible. If you recognize the logo, please let me know. Thanks.

[sandy101]

Is it GJ - on the nib? In which case it could be George Jensen - perhaps - a Danish maker that specialises in silver pens.

[tutelman]

Hi sandy101.

 

I don’t think it is Danish because the cap has an Italian silver maker’s mark. Here’s another photo of the whole pen. I suspect it was made by a pen company like Grifos for another brand whose unidentified logo is on the nib. I have several other examples of this type of cross-branding: Brioni by Omas, Givenchy by Sailor, Gucci by Ferrari da Varese, and Nazareno Gabrielli by Delta.

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by tutelman

[brokenclay]

Looks like the George Jensen mark is different:

 

 

 

[corniche]

Hi Tutelman,

 

Looks more like a stylized "H" to me; rather than a "GJ."

 

Perhaps a Hallmark? They're no longer around, but it was a fairly popular brand years ago.

 

 

- Sean

[OMASsimo]

I’m sorry that I don’t know the answer, but since you mentioned it, it’s certainly nothing that OMAS would have endorsed. I hope you won’t get offended, but to me it looks like a wannabe Chinese knock-off of whatever quality fountain pen. I’m just judging from the looks of the nib imprint.

[ParramattaPaul]

What I am seeing on the nib is an enclosed stylised letter 'H'. It appears to have the two vertical strokes of an 'H' without the cross stroke? Would that associate it with any known Italian maker?

Edited October 20, 2020 by ParramattaPaul

[sansenri]

you may have some fun googling "Italian brands" however I did not find anything that looks like it nor looking at it does it ring any bell regarding Italian known brands

[como]

Sterling silver on pens that I have seen should be marked as 925, which is the case with, for example, Montegrappa, Stipula, Yard-O-Led... 155 seems very little silver content. I doubt that it means silver content.

[Mercian]

Sterling silver on pens that I have seen should be marked as 925, which is the case with, for example, Montegrappa, Stipula, Yard-O-Led... 155 seems very little silver content. I doubt that it means silver content.

I think that the OP meant that the maker-specific registered hallmark appeared to contain the numbers 155, not that the silver-content mark is 155.

 

I don’t know anything about Italian hallmarks, but I do know that UK items have several stamps:

one for the Assay Office that certified the item;

one that indicates the metal & its purity;

one that indicates the date of production, and;

one that is the specific hallmark that has been registered at the Assay Office by whichever goldsmith/silversmith company actually produced the item.

 

This last mark does not necessarily have to be the logo of the company under whose brand the item is sold. Many brands outsource the production of their precious-metal items to specialist goldsmiths/silversmiths.

Edited October 21, 2020 by Mercian

[tutelman]

To clarify a little: At the top of the photo I initially posted, you can see the bottom of the cap. It has two marks on it. The oval has the silver content (.925), the lozenge-shaped mark is the Italian silver maker’s mark. This mark typically contains a star, a number for the maker, and a two letter regional designation. For example, Visconti is * 1425 FI (for Firenze). Omas was * 144 BO (For BOlogna). Here’s a thread on the subject:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/248276-italian-pen-silver-makers-marks/

 

The Italian maker’s impression is not readable on the pen in the photo, but there is no doubt that the sterling silver cap was made in Italy.

 

Over the years, many pen manufacturers have made pens that have been sold by fashion brands under the fashion brand’s label. (I mentioned Brioni, Givenchy, Gucci, and Nazareno Gabrielli in an earlier post, but there are lots more. I know, for example, that the Brioni I own is made by Omas because the sterling silver trim is stamped * 144 BO.)

 

Since the logo on the nib is not a recognizable pen brand, I am assuming the pen manufacturer made it for the brand that uses that logo. I am hoping that by identifying the logo on the nib, I can work my way back to who made the pen for that brand.

 

Thanks for all your continuing help and suggestions

Edited October 22, 2020 by tutelman

[tutelman]

Hello again.

 

I have determined that this pen is identical to the Laban Sterling Silver 925 Pen Real Leather fountain pen. I believe it appeared in Laban’s 2010 catalog as ST-F920-1RL (BK). If anyone has this pen, or is familiar with it, can you please let me know the the Italian silver maker’s mark letter/number combination on the cap? (I’m still trying to decipher the mark on my pen.)

 

Thank you for your help!

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by tutelman

[mallymal1]

Have you considered contacting Laban?

[kernando]

7L for Settelaghi?

[tutelman]

Have you considered contacting Laban?

Hi MalcolmH.

 

I have emailed Laban and two retailers who stock the pen. I have yet to hear back from any of them.

 

JT

[Arkanabar]

7L for Settelaghi?

I do think so.

http://settelaghi.it/italiano/immagini/logosettelaghiridgrigio.jpg

The image is a link to their contact page.

[como]

Wow, Bingo!

7L for Settelaghi?

 

I do think so.

http://settelaghi.it/italiano/immagini/logosettelaghiridgrigio.jpg

The image is a link to their contact page.

[tutelman]

Thanks kernando!

 

It looks like you nailed it. Settelaghi is a sub brand of Ferrari da Varese and their silver maker’s mark is * 1657 MI. The pattern is indeed a 7L. ‘Sette laghi’ is Italian for ‘seven lakes’.

Edited October 31, 2020 by tutelman

[sandy101]

That's good.

 

Now, we know what the pen is - what's it like?

 

Not heard of this brand before.

[mallymal1]

Marvelous.