Sailor Anniversary

[gerigo]

I return to Asia every year to visit the parents, and would make a stop in Tokyo for a few days. All of the Sailors I have, they are purchased during these trips. I saw and tried the King Cobra and King Eagle at Maruzen prior to the 2018 switch when these nibs were still available. They were already expensive then. If memory serves me right, it would be around 1300 USD.

 

 

i love how the KOP medium in ebonite writes, it’s a joy ! may i ask where nad when did you encounter the king eagle and cobra, were they as expensive as today ?

[A Smug Dill]

I also have many of the more accessible specialty nibs and I find them all amazing because they are a joy to use especially for Mandarin writing.

 

 

Which of the Naginata Concorde and Fude de Mannen nib variants do you have, and which do you enjoy using most?

[gerigo]

The only one I don't have is the Cross Music. My way of using fountain pens is a little more unusual. I am constantly using them to develop new skills. Currently I am into learning formal Chinese and will probably progress into more loose or cursive style. Currently I find the Fude and the Naginata best for formal Chinese as I have started to really dive into the unique characteristics of these pens. I have not pulled out the Cross Concorde, the Cross point and the Concorde in a long time.

 

 

 

Which of the Naginata Concorde and Fude de Mannen nib variants do you have, and which do you enjoy using most?

 

[The-Thinker]

I return to Asia every year to visit the parents, and would make a stop in Tokyo for a few days. All of the Sailors I have, they are purchased during these trips. I saw and tried the King Cobra and King Eagle at Maruzen prior to the 2018 switch when these nibs were still available. They were already expensive then. If memory serves me right, it would be around 1300 USD.

 

 

wow that is way less than what they are selling it nowadays ... Sadly they are very hard to find these days. When you saw it was it on a regular model ? because they used to produce it at demand on any pens, doesn't necessarily have to be heigh (as in makie or urushi)

[The-Thinker]

The only one I don't have is the Cross Music. My way of using fountain pens is a little more unusual. I am constantly using them to develop new skills. Currently I am into learning formal Chinese and will probably progress into more loose or cursive style. Currently I find the Fude and the Naginata best for formal Chinese as I have started to really dive into the unique characteristics of these pens. I have not pulled out the Cross Concorde, the Cross point and the Concorde in a long time.

 

 

is it true that the concord writes the broadest out of the current lineup ? even broader than the cross nibs ? i have heard that if you use the concord upside down it would be like a brush and it takes a lot to lear how to get a consistent broad line with it, but once you get it it’s even broader than the king eagle .

[A Smug Dill]

is it true that the concord writes the broadest out of the current lineup ?

I don't see why the Naginata Fude de Mannen nib would not put down at least as broad a line as a Naginata Concord nib (reverse-writing with the latter). The (very brief) 'writing samples' on Sailor's web site illustrating the various 'original' nibs would suggest the Fude de Mannen nib puts down slightly broader lines, and the Cross Point nib broader lines yet again.

 

even broader than the cross nibs ?

Nope.

 

i have heard that if you use the concord upside down it would be like a brush and it takes a lot to lear how to get a consistent broad line with it,

I wouldn't say the design intent of the Concord nib is to let the user put down a consistent broad line.

 

but once you get it it’s even broader than the king eagle .

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/351259-what-pens-are-you-using-today-2020/page-35?do=findComment&comment=4334448

 

I wouldn't know anything about that comparison (and, frankly, have no interest in finding out, especially when the King Eagle is not among the new production offerings).

 

p.s. This is what the el cheapo steel 40° Fude de Mannen nib on the ¥1,100 model 11-0127-740 can do: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/351259-what-pens-are-you-using-today-2020/?p=4357962

Edited October 10, 2020 by A Smug Dill

[The-Thinker]

I thought that the Naginata concord (upside down) writes broader than the cross nibs! I saw that in one of the pictures posted in a pen group. Out of the nibs which one do you consider broadest I from what sailor is producing nowadays?

don't see why the Naginata Fude de Mannen nib would not put down at least as broad a line as a Naginata Concord nib (reverse-writing with the latter). The (very brief) 'writing samples' on Sailor's web site illustrating the various 'original' nibs would suggest the Fude de Mannen nib puts down slightly broader lines, and the Cross Point nib broader lines yet again.

Nope.

I wouldn't say the design intent of the Concord nib is to let the user put down a consistent broad line.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/351259-what-pens-are-you-using-today-2020/page-35?do=findComment&comment=4334448

I wouldn't know anything about that comparison (and, frankly, have no interest in finding out, especially when the King Eagle is not among the new production offerings).

p.s. This is what the el cheapo steel 40° Fude de Mannen nib on the ¥1,100 model 11-0127-740 can do: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/351259-what-pens-are-you-using-today-2020/?p=4357962

[A Smug Dill]

Out of the nibs which one do you consider broadest I from what sailor is producing nowadays?

Cross Point and Cross Concord are neck in neck. See for yourself:

https://sailor.co.jp/topics/fountain-pen-type/

 

Disclaimer: I have no first-hand user experience with the Sailor 'original' specialty Cross nibs; in fact, I only have a Sailor Profit pen that is fitted with a Naginata Concord nib, and one fitted with a (discontinued) Naginata Concord Emperor nib, but the latter is still factory-sealed in a plastic sleeve and never used.